Re: non-free Packages as build-dependency of contrib / non-free ones autobuilding

2010-04-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Barth a...@not.so.argh.org writes:

 Hi,

 currently our policy says that main packages must only (build-)depend
 on main packages, but contrib and non-free packages could use packages
 from contrib and non-free.

 In practice build-dependencies from non-free are not used by the
 buildds for two reasons:

 1. (mostly historical) we need to make sure that the packages are not
 installed anymore while building packages from main - this can be
 ensured via the lvm-snapshot type chroots however

 2. we don't know (on an automated basis) which packages in non-free
 can be used as build-dependency without violating copyright. For the
 source packages we use the marker Autobuild: yes, but that won't do
 for binary packages where we only want to have some packages
 considered by apt/aptitude.


 Some obvious solutions come to my mind:

 1. Split non-free into non-free-but-useable, i.e. packages that can
 be autobuilt, and can be used as a build-dependency (and where main +
 contrib + non-free is self-contained, like main today already is), and
 silly-non-free (the remaining packages).

 2. Make a sub-disttree from non-free of the acceptable packages, and
 put it somewhere only on ftp-master or a few hosts only (that's enough
 for installing build-dependencies on buildds already)



 Other ideas? Opinions?

Add Autobuild: yes to binary packages so the flag ends up in Packages
and then filter non-free for packages with the flag set. This can be
done in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ with

Apt::Update::Post-Invoke { filter.sh }

where filter.sh goes through /var/lib/apt/lists/*non-free*Packages and
removes anything without Autobuild: yes.

Would it be save to carry the Autobuild: yes flag from the source
stanza into binary packages? That would involve a small change in dpkg
and then the next compile of each package would fix the debs for
autobuilding.

MfG
Goswin


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Estadistical proyect.

2010-04-21 Thread angel
My name is Angel Bravo, I'm a student at the University of Granada,
(Spain) in his final year of a masters degree in Statistics. In order to
finish my degree I am supposed to do a major work in statistics. In case
Debian is interested in having someone work on a statistical project of
any nature (the project would be supervised by professors of the
Statistics and Operations Research department of the University of
Granada and and Debian would not be charged with any costs whatsoever),
please feel free to contact me. Yours sincerely, Angel Bravo. 


Mi nombre es Ángel Bravo, soy un alumno de la UGR (Universidad de
Granada, España) que cursa el último año de la diplomatura de
Estadística  y siendo de obligado cumplimiento la realización de un
proyecto estadístico de cierta envergadura, me dirijo a ustedes para la
realización de cualquier proyecto estadístico que necesiten, sea de la
naturaleza que sea (todo ello, sin gasto alguno y con la supervisión y
asesoramiento de los profesores titulados del departamento de
Estadística e Investigación operativa de la Universidad de Granada). Si
están interesados, ruego se pongan en contacto conmigo y así poder
concretar y comenzar con ello cuanto antes, atentamente un saludo. 


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Re: get.debian.net installing gNewsomething instead of Debian

2010-04-21 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Dienstag, den 20.04.2010, 23:41 +0200 schrieb Hans-Georg Bork:
 On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 23:06 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
  Am Sonntag, den 11.04.2010, 12:59 +0300 schrieb Teemu Likonen:
   The download link for the Windows installer points to site
   
   http://goodbye-microsoft.com
   
   which advertises gNewSense. I guess the get.debian.org guys just didn't
   notice the change (adding a Cc).
  
  I think we really should provide this functionality, I used it a few
  times to install Debian, and now I cannot any more.
 
 you still can do so; as stated on
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Loader you can still download it
 from http://goodbye-windows.com

ok, I confused goodbye-windows and goodbye-microsoft. Thanks for the
pointer.

The goodbye-windows.com site could use a big friendly „Click here to
install Debian“ button, linking directly to the installer. I’m CC’ing
the supposed site owner.

I agree with pabs that this could be put in a more official place.

Greetings,
Joachim

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Re: get.debian.net installing gNewsomething instead of Debian

2010-04-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 21 avril 2010 à 10:16 +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
 BTW, gNewSense is the correct spelling of the GNU derivative of Ubuntu/Debian.

Maybe, but we feel like calling it “Gee, nonsense”.

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