Re: blends linked from the main debian page
;-) thank you Andreas for your warm words ;-) NeuroDebian was just an example -- my point is that we have a variety of (sub) project which are not readily visible, are separate blends or not. And Debian would be better represented if somehow it points to the most active ones which target specific niches of the market from the main page. E.g. probably non-exclusive list of popular topics I think of: - All alive blends (e.g. Med, Science, Edu) - Derivatives Front Desk - Debian Live - Debian Eee PC - Debian on Freerunner (openmoko) - Emdebian - NeuroDebian of cause - ... but also may be blends could be unrolled a bit, depending on what would be the design/scheme: we could mention separate tasks, e.g. Debian Chem, etc. With some random Featured item (or in space theme could be Debian Star of the day/week) on the main webpage we could at least expose them all one at a time. Then many newcomers might immediately run into something of specific interest for them, while visiting www.debian.org. On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: to be a blend. E.g. the NeuroDebian -- we contribute to both DebianScience and DebianMed, but I think it is worth pointing to NeuroDebian as a separate entity (Debian sub-project) ;-) I perfectly agree that NeuroDebian qualifies to be listed there as well. Even if it does not use those Blends techniques the project fully acts in the manner I demanded in my mail and does a lot to make Debian more popular in the field of neuro science. -- =--= Keep in touch www.onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko www.ohloh.net/accounts/yarikoptic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110412125805.gw7...@onerussian.com
Re: blends linked from the main debian page
[ Cc:-ing the bug log, for context see Andreas full mail at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/04/msg00037.html ]
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:33:17PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
So the question is: What Blend is actually worth beeing mentioned on
the main page?
Sure, that's a relevant question. But after all, it's a policy question
as many others that the -www team has to do when deciding what should go
on the first page and what should not. So let's proceed one bit at a
time.
We seem to agree here that some sub-projects deserve to be on the
www.d.o main page and that there should then be a link pointing to more
sub-projects ... [1]; no one has objected to this yet. Once the -www
team has had a chance to comment on that proposal, I guess they can give
us useful feedback such as how many sub-projects would be appropriate to
mention directly on www.d.o. At that point, I believe the decision of
which sub-projects can be easily delegated to the blends mailing list.
If you feel like, I'll be happy to provide some guidance as well, given
the choice pertains to the realm of Debian communication strategy at
large.
Cheers.
[1] BTW, for that to become a reality, it would be better if the Blends
team at large (+ other relevant subprojects) consider turning into a
proper WML page the index currently at
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends
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Re: blends linked from the main debian page
Hi, On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 03:10:45PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Sure, that's a relevant question. But after all, it's a policy question as many others that the -www team has to do when deciding what should go on the first page and what should not. So let's proceed one bit at a time. Fine. [1] BTW, for that to become a reality, it would be better if the Blends team at large (+ other relevant subprojects) consider turning into a proper WML page the index currently at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends That's a good point. I put Blends list in CC to ask for volunteers. I actively would like to ask for volunteers here. I would really love if somebody would pick up this task. After having written a 80 pages documentation[1] (with the help of some others for sure) I would love to lean back a bit and leaving the task of turning the Wiki content into some reasonable WML for somebody else. Kind regards Andreas. [1] http://blends.alioth.debian.org/blends/ -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110412134539.ga10...@an3as.eu
Better visibility of what can you do with Debian on the Debian main page
Yodel! (I'm obviously picking up on the discussion sparked by the Med@Tel report/ blends on the main page thread) I had a quick look at the kde.org and gnome.org pages. I think the blends on main page is a sub-topic of what can you do after you've installed Debian. On both the gnome.org and the kde.org pages, besides the what is and how to get info, there is a prominent applications section. Note that (as with Debian's many packages) this is stuff that is not part of the core KDE / GNOME distributions, but is stuff that you can do after you've got a desktop. I think that debian.org misses this kind of information completely. We explain that Debian is an OS, and that it has packages (but to a non- techie, that is an empty word), and distrib/packages (where it points to) also is a quite technical description. Read more points to intro/about, leaving the packages topic completely. Linking to blends and/or subprojects would be addressing target groups, which would probably be useful. My proposal (which is orthogonal) is linking to applications, just to show that Debian is not just an operating system as defined on our title page (set of basic programs and utilities that make your computer run.) * a new page, prominently listing the top applications (tbd - but the target group is the average user, so this would probably include stuff like libreoffice, iceweasel, apache/php/mysql and other web stuff etc.; then mention kde and gnome and perhaps point to their application pages, and possibly include a more stuff link, pointing to a package db browsable by debtags/categories (does this already exist? Offline right now, can't check.) * obviously needs to link to how can I install this stuff information * should not be a wall of text like so many of our pages are. all the applications I've mentioned above have a logo... * needs to be linked from the short section on packages which is on the title page. (replaces the packages link; the read more link could perhaps point to distrib/packages; intro/about feels irrelevant in that paragraph.) Should I do a draft of such an applications page? Let's not get into fights on which application should be listed (yet) - we can always make it a dynamic page and list a random selection of applications... :-) Again: maybe we also could/should link to subprojects/blends/... that address specific target user groups - it's just a thought I had after reading that discussion. cheers -- vbi -- featured link: http://www.pool.ntp.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
