Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-04-07 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:32:21PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote:

 It doesn't matter how you define yourself or how others define you: 
 we welcome you.  We welcome contributions from everyone 

Moar nitpicking: s/define/perceive/g

That gives: It doesn't matter how you perceive yourself or how others
perceive you: we welcome you.

This is after feedback from a respected friend on a private IRC channel,
who pointed out that the concept of definitions has unwelcome
connotations.


Ciao,

Enrico trying to prove that the draft is perfect by constantly trying to
suggest improvements: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfection#Paradoxes

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Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-04-07 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 12:23:21PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:32:21PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
 
  It doesn't matter how you define yourself or how others define you: 
  we welcome you.  We welcome contributions from everyone 
 
 Moar nitpicking: s/define/perceive/g
 
 That gives: It doesn't matter how you perceive yourself or how others
 perceive you: we welcome you.
 
 This is after feedback from a respected friend on a private IRC channel,
 who pointed out that the concept of definitions has unwelcome
 connotations.

The first 'define' might want to be 'identify' and the second 'perceive'
for

  It doesn't matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive
  you: we welcome you.

Or possibly:

  It doesn't matter how you choose to identify or how others perceive
  you: we welcome you.

Cheers,

Luca

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Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-04-07 Thread Steffen Möller
I am starting to enjoy this.
 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 11:03:07 +
 Von: Luca Filipozzi lfili...@debian.org
 An: debian-project@lists.debian.org
 Betreff: Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

 On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 12:23:21PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:32:21PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
  
   It doesn't matter how you define yourself or how others define you: 
   we welcome you.  We welcome contributions from everyone 
  
  Moar nitpicking: s/define/perceive/g
  
  That gives: It doesn't matter how you perceive yourself or how others
  perceive you: we welcome you.
  
  This is after feedback from a respected friend on a private IRC channel,
  who pointed out that the concept of definitions has unwelcome
  connotations.
 
 The first 'define' might want to be 'identify' and the second 'perceive'
 for
 
   It doesn't matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive
   you: we welcome you.
 
 Or possibly:
 
   It doesn't matter how you choose to identify or how others perceive
   you: we welcome you.

And what about a bit of a simplification: It does not matter who you or who 
others think you are: we welcome you.

Best,

Steffen



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Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-04-07 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 06:57:47PM +0200, Steffen M?ller wrote:
 I am starting to enjoy this.

 On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:03:07PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 12:23:21PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
   On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:32:21PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote:
   
It doesn't matter how you define yourself or how others define
you: we welcome you.  We welcome contributions from everyone 
   
   Moar nitpicking: s/define/perceive/g
   
   That gives: It doesn't matter how you perceive yourself or how
   others perceive you: we welcome you.
   
   This is after feedback from a respected friend on a private IRC
   channel, who pointed out that the concept of definitions has
   unwelcome connotations.
  
  The first 'define' might want to be 'identify' and the second
  'perceive' for
  
It doesn't matter how you identify yourself or how others
perceive you: we welcome you.
  
  Or possibly:
  
It doesn't matter how you choose to identify or how others
perceive you: we welcome you.
 
 And what about a bit of a simplification: It does not matter who you
 or who others think you are: we welcome you.

i wanted to put 'identify' into discussion but please don't interpret
this reply as my being insistent on the point... 'define yourself'
passed my initial filter!

if i had to choose:
- identify/perceive
- perceive/perceive
- think/think
- define/define

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