Re: A media type for the machine-readable copyright format ?

2012-09-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 08:10:18AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 here is the information that I consider submitting to the IANA.

Hi Charles, thanks for taking care of this! I'm no expert in the sort of
document you're submitting, but to my layman eyes all seem good.

 Person  email address to contact for further information:
   Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
[…]
 Change controller:
   The Debian Project http://www.debian.org

I wonder if the contact address shouldn't be something less tied to
project individuals, like for instance debian-project@lists.d.o. Given
there is already a separation between this and the author field
(allowing to give proper credit to who worked on the application), I
think it'd be better to have as contact point some role address of
sort. What do you think?

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Re: A media type for the machine-readable copyright format ?

2012-09-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 08:51:24AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
 On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 08:10:18AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
  here is the information that I consider submitting to the IANA.
 
  Person  email address to contact for further information:
  Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org
 […]
  Change controller:
  The Debian Project http://www.debian.org
 
 I wonder if the contact address shouldn't be something less tied to
 project individuals, like for instance debian-project@lists.d.o. Given
 there is already a separation between this and the author field
 (allowing to give proper credit to who worked on the application), I
 think it'd be better to have as contact point some role address of
 sort. What do you think?

Hi Stefano and debian-policy@lists.d.o subscribers,

I was wondering about the same, but I was worried that having a
broad-readership mailing list as a contact point would create confusion about
who is expected to answer.  How about debian-policy@lists.d.o ?  It is anyway
the contact point for the specification itself.

Cheers,

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http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med
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Re: A media type for the machine-readable copyright format ?

2012-09-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:45:53PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 
   - About security, the discussion on debian-devel leads me to think that
   there is no need to worry.  I included a short comment suggesting that
   field values should be sanitised as usual.  Does anybody see other
   potential security issues ?
 
 No, your security considerations seem reasonable to me.

While it is probably very reasonable to do sanity checks as usual the
as usual is a hint that the phrase might be redundant.  It somehow has
the value as People parsing debian/copyright should know their job. As
I said in a previous mail the attacker is the same person (group of
persons) who writes debian/copyright *and* all the other packaging stuff
- so he would attack himself.

Just my 2 Eurocents

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Re: A media type for the machine-readable copyright format ?

2012-09-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:41:52PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
  I wonder if the contact address shouldn't be something less tied to
  project individuals, like for instance debian-project@lists.d.o. Given
  there is already a separation between this and the author field
  (allowing to give proper credit to who worked on the application), I
  think it'd be better to have as contact point some role address of
  sort. What do you think?
 
 Hi Stefano and debian-policy@lists.d.o subscribers,
 
 I was wondering about the same, but I was worried that having a
 broad-readership mailing list as a contact point would create confusion about
 who is expected to answer.  How about debian-policy@lists.d.o ?  It is anyway
 the contact point for the specification itself.

Hi again Charles,
  in fact the above is a typo of mine :-). debian-*policy*@lists.d.o is
in fact what I wanted to propose. Sorry for the confusion.

Cheers.
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Re: A media type for the machine-readable copyright format ?

2012-09-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:

 I was wondering about the same, but I was worried that having a
 broad-readership mailing list as a contact point would create confusion
 about who is expected to answer.  How about debian-policy@lists.d.o ?
 It is anyway the contact point for the specification itself.

That works for me.

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Re: A media type for the machine-readable copyright format ?

2012-09-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 09:50:26AM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit :
 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:45:53PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
  
- About security, the discussion on debian-devel leads me to think that
there is no need to worry.  I included a short comment suggesting that
field values should be sanitised as usual.  Does anybody see other
potential security issues ?
  
  No, your security considerations seem reasonable to me.
 
 While it is probably very reasonable to do sanity checks as usual the
 as usual is a hint that the phrase might be redundant.  It somehow has
 the value as People parsing debian/copyright should know their job.

Hi Andreas and everybody,

In my understanding of http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4288#section-4.6, this is
what is expected for this section.  For a broad readership, the recommendation
is not completely tautological, as it indicates that there are best practices
for input sanitisation (which may not be the case for more complex or novel
security issues).  To help convey this message, I changed « and » to « to » in
the last sentence:

  Parsers should therefore follow general practices to sanitise their input. 

I have requested a pre-submission review to media-ty...@iana.org.

  http://lists.debian.org/20120912004203.gd5...@falafel.plessy.net

This is not the formal submission so further comments are still very welcome in
this thread.

Cheers,

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