Re: New Debian kilts
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 18:29 +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Wolodja Wentland deb...@babilen5.org writes: I am considering to organise a group purchase of Debian kilts and wanted to ask if other people are interested in one. You can find information about the kilts on [0] and I spoke to the tailor/weaver [1] today who is happy to produce yet another round. Do you have an estimate of the cost ? Well, not exactly as it depends on how many people are ordering. As detailed on [0] they charge a setup fee if you want them to weave a tartan that is not in stock. The wiki lists setup costs of £300, but I am not sure how accurate that is. Their prices for kilts made from standard (i.e. in-stock) tartan are listed on [1] and I would assume that they can make a reasonable offer for kilts made from Debian tartan. It looks as if Hands.com paid for the weaving, design and registration of the tartan the last time. Unfortunately they didn't produce enough cloth and we would therefore have to pay for the weaving as well. I went to their store and asked and they quoted additional costs of £700 for a *single* made-to-order kilt. To be honest I am not entirely sure how much its going to be and I wanted to check if other people are interested. In short: The more we are the better ;) [0] http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf7/Tartan#Future_Orders [1] http://www.geoffreykilts.co.uk/gentskilts.html -- Wolodja deb...@babilen5.org 4096R/CAF14EFC 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New Debian kilts
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 18:29 +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Wolodja Wentland deb...@babilen5.org writes: I am considering to organise a group purchase of Debian kilts and wanted to ask if other people are interested in one. You can find information about the kilts on [0] and I spoke to the tailor/weaver [1] today who is happy to produce yet another round. Do you have an estimate of the cost ? Well, not exactly as it depends on how many people are ordering. As detailed on [0] they charge a setup fee if you want them to weave a tartan that is not in stock. The wiki lists setup costs of £300, but I am not sure how accurate that is. Their prices for kilts made from standard (i.e. in-stock) tartan are listed on [1] and I would assume that they can make a reasonable offer for kilts made from Debian tartan. It looks as if Hands.com paid for the weaving, design and registration of the tartan the last time. Unfortunately they didn't produce enough cloth and we would therefore have to pay for the weaving as well. I went to their store and asked and they quoted additional costs of £700 for a *single* made-to-order kilt. To be honest I am not entirely sure how much its going to be and I wanted to check if other people are interested. In short: The more we are the better ;) Hmmm. I'd have thought they have some cloth still in stock, based on what they've said in the last year. I'd double-check that with them and Phil, maybe... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com I can't ever sleep on planes ... call it irrational if you like, but I'm afraid I'll miss my stop -- Vivek Dasmohapatra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120930160022.gc8...@einval.com
Re: New Debian kilts
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 17:00 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hmmm. I'd have thought they have some cloth still in stock, based on what they've said in the last year. I'd double-check that with them and Phil, maybe... Oh, please do. They wanted to clarify that but weren't actually sure. It might also be that they wanted to check with Phil before selling it to Some-Random-Guy™. I would happily buy it if there is still some left. -- Wolodja deb...@babilen5.org 4096R/CAF14EFC 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New Debian kilts
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 18:29 +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Wolodja Wentland deb...@babilen5.org writes: I am considering to organise a group purchase of Debian kilts and wanted to ask if other people are interested in one. You can find information about the kilts on [0] and I spoke to the tailor/weaver [1] today who is happy to produce yet another round. Do you have an estimate of the cost ? Well, not exactly as it depends on how many people are ordering. As detailed on [0] they charge a setup fee if you want them to weave a tartan that is not in stock. The wiki lists setup costs of £300, but I am not sure how accurate that is. Their prices for kilts made from standard (i.e. in-stock) tartan are listed on [1] and I would assume that they can make a reasonable offer for kilts made from Debian tartan. It looks as if Hands.com paid for the weaving, design and registration of the tartan the last time. Unfortunately they didn't produce enough cloth and we would therefore have to pay for the weaving as well. I went to their store and asked and they quoted additional costs of £700 for a *single* made-to-order kilt. To be honest I am not entirely sure how much its going to be and I wanted to check if other people are interested. In short: The more we are the better ;) So, I'd be unlikely to wear a kilt (well, ok, not seriosuly or enough to buy a nice one), but I would be extremely likely to wear a scarf. Do we get the material (or scraps or something)? I'd be super interested in ordering some material to make a scarf or something, if it'd help bring down the cost a bit. [0] http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf7/Tartan#Future_Orders [1] http://www.geoffreykilts.co.uk/gentskilts.html -- Wolodja deb...@babilen5.org 4096R/CAF14EFC 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New Debian kilts
Wolodja Wentland deb...@babilen5.org writes: On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 17:00 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hmmm. I'd have thought they have some cloth still in stock, based on what they've said in the last year. I'd double-check that with them and Phil, maybe... Oh, please do. They wanted to clarify that but weren't actually sure. It might also be that they wanted to check with Phil before selling it to Some-Random-Guy™. I would happily buy it if there is still some left. I have told them repeatedly that we're completely happy for random people to buy it, but it seems they struggle with the idea -- which is a bit of a shame as the more the merrier as far as we're concerned. Hopefully continued demand will eventually convince them to keep stock without requiring up-front funding of the start-up costs of each batch. Anyway, last I heard they had stock (we ordered 80 yards, but for reasons known only to the weavers they wove 160 yards. I was under the impression that there was still quite a lot of the extra left over). I'll ask them what the current situation is, if that helps. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND pgpEJIQqM7G4e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New Debian kilts
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: I went to their store and asked and they quoted additional costs of £700 for a *single* made-to-order kilt. Ouch! From what I remember when I got my kilt, 700£ is really really pricey. I know that North-America is probably on the wrong side of the world for most of the people interested in ordering, but I recommend Burnett Struth's[0] as a kilt maker. They're located just north of Toronto, Canada. They made my personal kilt (combination of machine and hand sewing) out of a very uncommon tartan (I think it had to be custom woven since nobody kept it in stock) for about 650–700 CAD (~410–440£), tax included. The fabric was heavy weight (16oz I think) at that. On a side note, they also made my band kilt, which is 25 years old and still looks great apart from wear on the leather buckle straps (easily worn 10-15 times a year). Best wishes, Ryan [0] http://www.burnetts-struth.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120930220955.ga6...@nu.ryanak.ca
