Re: A Debian contributor StackOverflow
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 11:18:27AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: The Shapado software seems a little bit clunky (the formatting is weird in Iceweasel, it won't let me save a photo in the profile, and every edit to the profile apparently requires changing my password, which is weird). But the basic functionality seems to be there. Right. Let me add as a shameless plug that the service is in dire need of volunteer admins that help with the setup (shapado configuration, themes, etc.) and also keep a link with upstream development to discuss our needs, cherry pick patches, etc. Once that basic level of service is assured again, the service could also use some publicity/buzz, to actually encourage the formation of a more active support community there --- for the people who are fond of the StackOverflow-like approach. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club » signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women
Hi, On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 07:52:18PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: OK from my reading of https://live.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen#For_Organizations_and_Companies it seems that Debian can be a participating project, without also being a financial sponsor. IE: We provide mentors and help select the best project submissions. I think this sounds like a great idea, and we should definitely pursue it. (Assuming my understanding is correct.) I agree that at least in my perception Debian is way better in terms of providing knowledge rather than in providing money. So we should rather provide in what we are good in (mentoring, programming skills) and not what we are no experts in (dealing with money) to external projects. I do not have trouble personally in spending the money on OPW but I would also see a similarly fair use of the GSoC org money to keep on sponsoring DebConf newbees and explicitly prefer women who apply for the support. IMHO this fullfills the same intention to lower the entrance barrier for women into the Free Software world. In short: This is no veto against OPW support rather a slight reminder whether we are just jumping enthusiastically on a train (which admittedly goes in the right direction) before we have sorted out all ways to spend this Debian money to support women inside Debian. Please let me know if I am misunderstanding how their program works. Dito. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130405074546.gb24...@an3as.eu
Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 09:45:46AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: I do not have trouble personally in spending the money on OPW but I would also see a similarly fair use of the GSoC org money to keep on sponsoring DebConf newbees and explicitly prefer women who apply for the support. FWIW, this is no either/or situation. We can do both and in the past we have never needed GSoC org money to support the DebConf newbies initiative. The bottleneck to the viability of DebConf newbies have historically been 1) someone taking care of the initiative (announcing it ahead of time, reviewing applicants, etc.) and 2) coordination with regular DebConf applications (ideally, newbies could just be a category of regular applicants, that is somehow favored when doing travel sponsoring decisions). I should also point out that OPW does reserve part of intern budget to allow them to attend project conferences. So, if people want to have DebConf newbies happen again, do not worry about money, rather volunteer to help out the DebConf team to make it happen from an organization POV! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Debian Project Leader . . . . . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club » signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A Debian contributor StackOverflow
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 11:04:12AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I wonder if just using the same forum is a good idea, or if it would be better to create a separate contributor-focused platform. One thing I find attractive about using the platform for both is to perhaps help encourage/promote the idea that users are, or become, contributors, with few barriers in the process… a non-contributing user will have some exposure to contributor-related questions and it might just pique their interest… I really should look at ask.debian.net more. It's less depressing than -user can be ☹ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130405114207.GF16309@debian
Aw: Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women
Hello, Gesendet:Freitag, 05. April 2013 um 09:45 Uhr Von:Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu An:debian-project@lists.debian.org Cc:debian-wo...@lists.debian.org Betreff:Re: Debian participation into GNOME Outreach Program for Women Hi, On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 07:52:18PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: OK from my reading of https://live.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen#For_Organizations_and_Companies it seems that Debian can be a participating project, without also being a financial sponsor. IE: We provide mentors and help select the best project submissions. I think this sounds like a great idea, and we should definitely pursue it. (Assuming my understanding is correct.) I agree that at least in my perception Debian is way better in terms of providing knowledge rather than in providing money. So we should rather provide in what we are good in (mentoring, programming skills) and not what we are no experts in (dealing with money) to external projects. I do not have trouble personally in spending the money on OPW but I would also see a similarly fair use of the GSoC org money to keep on sponsoring DebConf newbees and explicitly prefer women who apply for the support. IMHO this fullfills the same intention to lower the entrance barrier for women into the Free Software world. In short: This is no veto against OPW support rather a slight reminder whether we are just jumping enthusiastically on a train (which admittedly goes in the right direction) before we have sorted out all ways to spend this Debian money to support women inside Debian. I agree with Andreas in that we have many ways still open for us to communicate the technology and Debian as a society to outsiders. Having a focus on those issues that females have most problems with to tolerate / understand may help our project at large. I would be particularly interested to learn about how Debian is perceived by female geeks in other disciplines, e.g. those performing research in various sciences or areas of engineering, and how Debian compares to the perceived more user-friendly Ubuntu. This would also transform the perception of money spent from giving to women because they are not techie enough to get the idea by themselves to give the money to women because they sense and verbalise issues that males are more likely to fail to communicate. If our participation in OPW gives such concerns some sort of a platform, then I am fully up for it. That said, I whole heartedly also feel with Sune that for the technology alone we should not invest so much - anyone could do it, even males. For the money one should then rather support local workshops and support those female aspiring geeks directly who have some interest than going for a single project - 100 times more effective, I tend to think. Cheers, Steffen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/trinity-2e73c058-4ab8-4703-a595-e5b29ae327a3-1365169973583@3capp-gmx-bs31
DebConf14 venue decision
Today the DebConf team held the DebConf14 venue decision meeting, following our standard process https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Bid_process A decision was reached that DebConf14 will take place in Portland, USA. Thank you to the USA and Venezuelan bid teams for their work, and to everyone who helped assess the bids. -- Moray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/01a7466d4d311a9182080dc29df83...@www.morayallan.com
Re: DebConf14 venue decision
I just want to clarify for everyone -- Portland, Oregon (OR), since $ dict portland | grep 'U.S. city' | nl 1Portland, AR -- U.S. city in Arkansas 2Portland, ND -- U.S. city in North Dakota 3Portland, OR -- U.S. city in Oregon 4Portland, IN -- U.S. city in Indiana 5Portland, TN -- U.S. city in Tennessee 6Portland, ME -- U.S. city in Maine 7Portland, TX -- U.S. city in Texas 8Portland, MI -- U.S. city in Michigan ;) congrats! On Fri, 05 Apr 2013, Moray Allan wrote: Today the DebConf team held the DebConf14 venue decision meeting, following our standard process https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Bid_process A decision was reached that DebConf14 will take place in Portland, USA. Thank you to the USA and Venezuelan bid teams for their work, and to everyone who helped assess the bids. -- Yaroslav O. Halchenko http://neuro.debian.net http://www.pymvpa.org http://www.fail2ban.org Senior Research Associate, Psychological and Brain Sciences Dept. Dartmouth College, 419 Moore Hall, Hinman Box 6207, Hanover, NH 03755 Phone: +1 (603) 646-9834 Fax: +1 (603) 646-1419 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130405195630.gg2...@onerussian.com
