Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations

2013-06-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 19 iun 13, 10:33:42, MJ Ray wrote:
 
 I would prefer a simpler listing of which developers are available for
 hire and which projects they are interested in working on.  If that
 could be presented in the PTS, package managers or reportbug, that
 would be great.  Would anyone block such changes?
 
 Disclosure: like many developers, I'm listed on
 http://www.debian.org/consultants/ but don't get much work from it.

I would argue that the better option would be to just add a marker that 
a particular consultant is a DD.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Virtual images of historic Linux releases

2013-06-20 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

I was wondering, and Google did not help me: Is there a curated
collection of virtual machines with historic Linux installations
somewhere?

I’d imagine that it would be very interesting to boot a Debian woody
again and use Gnome1 and GIMP1 for a while, or see how modern websites
look in Netscape from 1998.

Greetings,
Joachim


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Re: Doing something about should remain private forever emails

2013-06-20 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 07:35:26PM +0200, Raphael Geissert a écrit :
 
 I believe sgran's question was intended for Charles' proposal that is
 basically more time consuming than declassifying.

Actually, I do not understand the question, because only the listmasters can
create new mailing lists and this is the essence of my proposal.

The list for vacation, weddings etc. would not be archived, which results in
zero work for declassification.  The high-traffic list would stay in the same
state as it is, this is also no extra work.  For the announce list, I
think that the best person to work on the declassification would be the
posters theselves, proactively by ensuring that what they send is declassifiable
by default three years later.

For the public summary, maybe it was not a good idea after all.

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Re: Slowdown problem of a Debian package

2013-06-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi,

Le jeudi 20 juin 2013 à 09:35 +0900, Shigio YAMAGUCHI a écrit : 
 [bless.sh]
 +
 |#!/bin/sh
 |#
 |# Copyright (c) 2000, 2004, 2010 Tama Communications Corporation
 |#
 |# This file is free software; as a special exception the author gives
 |# unlimited permission to copy and/or distribute it, with or without
 |# modifications, as long as this notice is preserved.
 |#
 |# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
 |# WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law; without even 
 the
 |# implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR 
 PURPOSE.
 |#
 |# Usage:
 |#   $ sh bless.sh
 |#
 |if [ ! -f 'bless.sh' ]; then
 |   echo Bless.sh script should be executed as 'sh bless.sh'.
 |   exit 1
 |fi
 |#
 |# Bless the site key.
 |#
 |pwd '/usr/local/var/gtags/sitekeys/mykey'
 +

Sorry for chiming in; I have no idea what GNU Global is. But whatever it
is, this needs to be said: thanks to Ron for keeping such poorly
designed code out of Debian.

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Re: Slowdown problem of a Debian package

2013-06-20 Thread Taisuke Yamada
Hi.

I am still an active user of both GNU global and Debian,
but haven't been tracking recent version for a while.

From the discussion, it seems the only (technical) resolution
is to apply a package-local patch to either remove or fix this
requires-admin-privilege-to-enable-web-interface design.
A patch to replace semi-hardcoded path with some reference
to $envvar or ~/.conffile would do.

# As FYI, even after the feature removal, GNU global is still
# worth using, as it has many other interfaces including
# integration with GNU Emacs.

To make it clear, I actually do not like this sitekey design or
above-proposed fix. IMHO, this design is debatable (and that's
why I once posted an alternative script - and still using it),
and the fix adds another distro-local complexity which
confuses newcomers.

That said, I wish Shigio accepts upstream patch that removes
requirement of admin privilege - after all, it should be a Good Thing
if no special privilege is needed to use such a everyday developer tool.
Not all developers have root on one's working environment, after all.

But all this is a design decision, and if upstream author rejects
certain design request, all we can do is to workaround it.
Actually, this might be a good thing, as with a appropriate fix,
Debian would be the only distro with a better GNU global.

 Any particular reason you didn't CC Ron on this thread? Usually when
 talking about someone we do that.

 OK. I put CC to Ron, Taisuke and me on this mail.
 Would you please see the mail archive for the thread so far? Ron, Taisuke


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Re: Virtual images of historic Linux releases

2013-06-20 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, June 20, 2013 04:37:04, Joachim Breitner wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was wondering, and Google did not help me: Is there a curated
 collection of virtual machines with historic Linux installations
 somewhere?

I had a quick look and found a set for VirtualBox:

   http://virtualboxes.org/images/debian/

but I haven't found a VM image for Woody.

 I’d imagine that it would be very interesting to boot a Debian woody
 again and use Gnome1 and GIMP1 for a while, or see how modern websites
 look in Netscape from 1998.

Well, _theoretically_ that might be possible because every version of Debian 
is available from archive.debian.org:

   http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/

However actually browsing the _internet_ is more difficult than it sounds, 
because the virtual network drivers that are available today in the VM host 
software need to contain a device that existed in 1998.  So, for instance, I 
loaded up a copy of Slackware from June 1998 from some InfoMagic CDs I used 
back in the day, and ran into this same trouble.

The first version of Debian I loaded was Slink, which IIRC didn't 
automatically detect hardware and would ask the user to pick the particular 
kernel modules to try loading.  I don't recall which version of Debian was the 
first to do automatic hardware detection ... it might have been Woody.

But regardless... if you want to give this a shot and see what happens -- it's 
there to try.  ;-)

  -- Chris

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