Re: Debian calendar, events and more

2015-02-06 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 06/02/15 04:44, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote:

 Has anybody else ever looked at this concept or know of any existing
 work in this area other than the events wiki?
 When the Debian events team existed and was maintaining
 www.d.o/events, I filed #645720 requesting an iCal feed for
 www.d.o/events. The team no longer exists and www.d.o/events is dead.
 I think we need a proper Debian calendar service with a team behind
 it, as I have mentioned on the services wishlist. As the events team
 discovered, it is far too much work to manually gather events people
 publish in various random places and publish them so it should be
 something anyone can push events to (via web form, iCalendar feed or
 other method) and should automatically push certain classes of events
 to external calendars like LWN.

 https://wiki.debian.org/Services#wishlist
 https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/webwml/webwml/english/events/submit-event-to-lwn?view=markup



There are probably a few ways to go about this without a formally
constituted events team:

a) it could be organized like planet.debian.org, people with commit
access could put iCalendar files or links to their own hosted calendars
into a VCS.  Some script could aggregate and try to filter the content
and serve it up in various ways for everybody else to consume.  This
could be quite ad-hoc but with minimal central management required.

b) we could ask DSA to host a CalDAV server such as DAViCal[1].  Each
user would have a login and would be able to connect from any CalDAV
client (Evolution, Iceowl, etc) to publish events into one or more
public calendars.  The benefit of this is that people can use their GUI
client to insert stuff more easily but it has the disadvantage that it
is an extra thing for DSA to keep running.  The public calendars would
then be exposed as read-only iCalendar URLs for non-authenticated users.

c) somebody could make (and support) some centralized database and/or
web-front-end to something like DAViCal.  This would mean people could
manage event data through a web form without installing any GUI but it
may require the most dev effort, unless there is already something like
this that can be packaged and deployed easily by DSA.

Whatever strategy was used to gather the data, it would then be possible
to develop some adapter to merge it into the UDD iCalendar feed.  If the
data is well structured this wouldn't be hard, e.g. a simple rule would
be to add some URL parameter to select from a set of pre-defined filters
by region or topic.

My own feeling is that we just find a quick way to let people submit
data and then start looking at it and reporting on it to see how people
may want to filter and personalize it.

1. https://packages.debian.org/davical




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Re: Debian calendar, events and more

2015-02-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:

 What about adding EventAggregator macro for MoinMoin in wiki.debian.org,

This sounds interesting, thanks for the idea. Someone would need to
package it for Debian and get it into backports though.

What do you think of that Daniel? Seems like a fairly lightweight way
to get a better situation for events stuff.

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Debian testing weekly iso

2015-02-06 Thread Sub Phil
Hello,

This is my first post, so I hope to be on the right one.

If I could get hold of debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso and following, when
install onto an USB key with UnetBootini I see that all boot menu offers
install options.

Where(=which URL) can I get live version, I do NOT want to install it, I
want to try and see.

Thanks,

Philippe


Re: Debian calendar, events and more

2015-02-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:

 There are probably a few ways to go about this without a formally
 constituted events team:

All good ideas, probably a combination of them is required.

 b) we could ask DSA to host a CalDAV server such as DAViCal[1].  Each

Just an FYI, DSA generally run physical/virtual machines but not
services; that is up to service maintainers.

 to develop some adapter to merge it into the UDD iCalendar feed.

Seems like events data is completely orthogonal to the UDD iCalendar
feed, which I understand to be about tasks not events.

 My own feeling is that we just find a quick way to let people submit

We already have the wiki for that.

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Re: Debian calendar, events and more

2015-02-06 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 06/02/15 09:40, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:

 There are probably a few ways to go about this without a formally
 constituted events team:
 All good ideas, probably a combination of them is required.

 b) we could ask DSA to host a CalDAV server such as DAViCal[1].  Each
 Just an FYI, DSA generally run physical/virtual machines but not
 services; that is up to service maintainers.

Well, even that takes some effort for DSA to get the machine up and
running, help the service maintainer get hooked up with user
authentication, etc.  So I don't raise an idea like this without
contemplating there is some impact for DSA.

 to develop some adapter to merge it into the UDD iCalendar feed.
 Seems like events data is completely orthogonal to the UDD iCalendar
 feed, which I understand to be about tasks not events.

Both can be provided in the same feed.  While it is not hard for people
to access multiple feeds one by one, having some Debian uber-feed on a
single personalized URL may go further to maximize participation.

 My own feeling is that we just find a quick way to let people submit
 We already have the wiki for that.

What I meant was a quick way to let people submit data in a format
suitable for iCalendar, even if it is just option (a), creating a VCS in
collab-maint and letting people add their own local feed URLs to a text file




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Re: Debian testing weekly iso

2015-02-06 Thread GCS
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Sub Phil phil40...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is my first post, so I hope to be on the right one.
 This list is not for user support, you should try Debian-User[1] for that.

 If I could get hold of debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso and following, when
 install onto an USB key with UnetBootini I see that all boot menu offers
 install options.
 This is due to you've downloaded an install media.

 Where(=which URL) can I get live version, I do NOT want to install it, I
 want to try and see.
 For Live images, you should try it's homepage[2] and download one from there.

Regards,
Laszlo/GCS
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
[2] https://www.debian.org/CD/live/


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Re: Debian calendar, events and more

2015-02-06 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
Hi everybody

El 06/02/15 a las 10:01, Daniel Pocock escribió:
 On 06/02/15 09:40, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:

 There are probably a few ways to go about this without a formally
 constituted events team:
 All good ideas, probably a combination of them is required.

 b) we could ask DSA to host a CalDAV server such as DAViCal[1].  Each
 Just an FYI, DSA generally run physical/virtual machines but not
 services; that is up to service maintainers.
 
 Well, even that takes some effort for DSA to get the machine up and
 running, help the service maintainer get hooked up with user
 authentication, etc.  So I don't raise an idea like this without
 contemplating there is some impact for DSA.
 
 to develop some adapter to merge it into the UDD iCalendar feed.
 Seems like events data is completely orthogonal to the UDD iCalendar
 feed, which I understand to be about tasks not events.
 
 Both can be provided in the same feed.  While it is not hard for people
 to access multiple feeds one by one, having some Debian uber-feed on a
 single personalized URL may go further to maximize participation.
 
 My own feeling is that we just find a quick way to let people submit
 We already have the wiki for that.

 What I meant was a quick way to let people submit data in a format
 suitable for iCalendar, even if it is just option (a), creating a VCS in
 collab-maint and letting people add their own local feed URLs to a text file
 

What about adding EventAggregator macro for MoinMoin in wiki.debian.org,
in a similar approach as the FSFE did?

This is how it looks (easy to add events, ical and RSS exports):
https://wiki.fsfe.org/FellowshipEvents

This is the info related to the MoinMoin macro:

https://wiki.fsfe.org/HelpOnEventAggregator

This is how they handle aggregation from external sources (ical format):
https://wiki.fsfe.org/EventSourcesDict

(I don't know  the internals, just searched the web looking how to add
calendars to moinmoin).

HTH

Laura Arjona Reina
https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona




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