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Future release roadmap

2015-08-21 Thread Vogel, Steve
Hello,

We are planning resources to support our products running on Debian and would 
like to know an approximate timeline (through Q1 of 2017) of releases.  We 
understand stable version 8.1 was released in June.  What guidance should we 
use to plan support for stable 8.2. and stable 8.3?  In general how frequently 
do these releases come out?

Many thanks for any planning guidance you can provide.

Steve Vogel
Program Manager, Data Center Group
Intel Corporation
780 Fifth Avenue, Suite 140
King of Prussia, PA 19406
steve.vo...@intel.commailto:steve.vo...@intel.com
Office: 609-953-5342
Cell: 609-828-9360
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Re: Future release roadmap

2015-08-21 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire

On 2015-08-21 15:51, Vogel, Steve wrote:

We are planning resources to support our products running on Debian
and would like to know an approximate timeline (through Q1 of 2017) of
releases. We understand stable version 8.1 was released in June. What
guidance should we use to plan support for stable 8.2. and stable 8.3?
In general how frequently do these releases come out?

Many thanks for any planning guidance you can provide.


Assuming that you are referring to stable point releases, as you imply, 
the rule of thumb is that we schedule at two-month intervals for stable 
(three months for oldstable). However, that depends on the calendars of 
a number of people across the world, so it is a rule of thumb only. 8.2 
has overrun considerably.


Coordination happens primarily on debian-rele...@lists.debian.org if you 
want to watch out for it, and when known the release dates are posted to 
https://release.debian.org. Releases are normally on a Saturday and you 
can expect the results to be on mirrors by at least the Sunday morning.


Further queries are probably best directed to debian-release; m-f-t set.

For the release team:
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Re: Future release roadmap

2015-08-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 02:51:46PM +, Vogel, Steve wrote:
 Hello,
 
 We are planning resources to support our products running on Debian and would 
 like to know an approximate timeline (through Q1 of 2017) of releases.  We 
 understand stable version 8.1 was released in June.  What guidance should we 
 use to plan support for stable 8.2. and stable 8.3?  In general how 
 frequently do these releases come out?
 
 Many thanks for any planning guidance you can provide.
 
 Steve Vogel
 Program Manager, Data Center Group
 Intel Corporation
 780 Fifth Avenue, Suite 140
 King of Prussia, PA 19406
 steve.vo...@intel.commailto:steve.vo...@intel.com
 Office: 609-953-5342
 Cell: 609-828-9360
  [cid:image002.jpg@01D051BE.2FFB2A50]
 
 


Speaking purely personally - as an individual Debian developer - but explicitly 
NOT on behalf of the release team or the wider project as a whole.

On average, lately a Debian major release - where major is 7, 8 - comes out 
about once every two years and there's normally at least one year of support 
beyond that.

In that period, there are wrap up releases which include security fixes etc. 
about once a quarter.  The major version is still 8, for example, and the point 
releases
merely wrap up the fixes that you would normally get by updating regularly plus 
a few fixes if e.g. it becomes necessary to remove a package from the 
distribution altogether.

By way of example: the prior stable distribution of Debian - Debian 7 codename 
Wheezy - is about to get a point release, though it is no longer the primary 
stable release. In three years, you might expect to see 8-10 individual point 
releases.

At the same time, 8 - Jessie - will receive an update to 8.2 or so the plans 
are being arranged at the moment.

For Q1 17 - We'll hopefully have Debian 9 - Stretch - so 8 will be oldstable. 7 
will be oldoldstable.

There are also attempts to prolong support for older Debian versions using the 
LTS name. Such significantly extended lifespans may come at a cost in that it 
may not be possible to maintain as wide a spread of packages as when that 
version was first released - Debian is volunteer maintained and there's only so 
much
effort to go around. As others have said, talk to the release team. 

For future reference: the second of the first couple of Alpha releases of the 
installer for Debian 9 has been produced within the last couple of weeks - as 
such,
we're probably 18-24 months away from release of Debian 9 Stretch as a finished 
article, based on prior experience - though that's a time frame that may change 
significantly. 

All the best

AndyC

[amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk / amaca...@debian.org]
 




Re: Future release roadmap

2015-08-21 Thread Vincent Cheng
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Vogel, Steve steve.vo...@intel.com wrote:

 Hello,

 We are planning resources to support our products running on Debian and would 
 like to know an approximate timeline (through Q1 of 2017) of releases.  We 
 understand stable version 8.1 was released in June.  What guidance should we 
 use to plan support for stable 8.2. and stable 8.3?  In general how 
 frequently do these releases come out?

The release team has full control over what gets included into stable
point releases, and when the releases come out; you may want to
contact them directly via debian-release@l.d.o. According to their
list archives, there are plans for 8.2 to be released in September
[1].

Regards,
Vincent

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2015/08/msg00600.html



Re: Future release roadmap

2015-08-21 Thread Noël Köthe
Am Freitag, den 21.08.2015, 14:51 + schrieb Vogel, Steve:

 We are planning resources to support our products running on Debian 
 and would like to know an approximate timeline (through Q1 of 2017) 
 of releases.  We understand stable version 8.1 was released in June. 
  What guidance should we use to plan support for stable 8.2. and 
 stable 8.3?  In general how frequently do these releases come out?

Today at DebConf15 Niels hold a talk from the release team including a
first schedule for stretch (freeze in one year):

https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/167/onwards-to-stretch-and
-other-items-from-the-release-team/

http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian
-meetings/2015/debconf15/Onwards_to_Stretch_and_other_items_from_the_Re
lease_Team.webm

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