Re: hosted project management tools

2015-10-21 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 10/20/2015 09:47 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> 
> 
> I've been looking at how to project manage some of the free RTC
> initiative and it would probably benefit from a hosted
> project-management system.

http://kanboard.net/ comes into my mind.

Not sure how easy it is to handle your login/account requirements, though.

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Re: hosted project management tools

2015-10-21 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 21/10/15 21:25, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 10/20/2015 09:47 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've been looking at how to project manage some of the free RTC
>> initiative and it would probably benefit from a hosted
>> project-management system.
> 
> http://kanboard.net/ comes into my mind.
> 
> Not sure how easy it is to handle your login/account requirements, though.
> 


It has an ITP bug:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=790814

so it is nice to know I could run it myself.  Do you know anybody who is
hosting it for community projects such as what I described?  I'm a bit
wary of hosting another application myself as it takes time away from
developing the things I actually want to create.

Regards,

Daniel



Re: hosted project management tools

2015-10-21 Thread Bernd Zeimetz


On 10/21/2015 10:04 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:

> so it is nice to know I could run it myself.  Do you know anybody who is
> hosting it for community projects such as what I described?  I'm a bit
> wary of hosting another application myself as it takes time away from
> developing the things I actually want to create.

no, sorry.
but its rather easy to install. php and a database and you are done.
authentication in integration into other tools is a different thing, though.


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Re: hosted project management tools

2015-10-21 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
On 20 de octubre de 2015 21:47:16 GMT+02:00, Daniel Pocock  
wrote:
>
>
>I've been looking at how to project manage some of the free RTC
>initiative and it would probably benefit from a hosted
>project-management system.
>
>It is not specific to Debian, so it probably wouldn't be a good match
>for the BTS.  Can anybody comment on other hosted platforms that may be
>suitable?  There is a preference for something that is based on free
>software, where the data can be exported in bulk and where other
>collaborators can log in easily without requiring Google accounts or
>something.
>
>It is not specifically a requirement for a software bug tracker either.
> Most of the projects (e.g. Lumicall, reSIProcate) have their own bug
>trackers.  What I'm basically aiming to do is create higher level
>project tasks that link to things in the individual bug trackers.
>
>For example, in a hierarchical setup, there might be some top-level
>projects with tasks and sub-tasks, e.g.
>
>- Improve free softphones
>  - launch Telepathy-resiprocate (link to project wiki)
>  - Jitsi
>- packages
>  - tasks for individual things to sponsor
>
>- Documentation
>  - RTC Quick Start Guide
>- translation
>
>- Help individual communities implement RTC
>  - Debian (rtc.debian.org)
>- _turn._udp SRV record issue (link to DSA RT)
>- finish XMPP setup (link to DSA RT)
>- setup debian-rtc mailing list (BTS #8029493)
>  - FSFE
>- XMPP domain issue
>  - Fedora
>- move fedrtc.org to infrastructure (link to thread)
>
>- Server solutions
>  - improve packages
>- help FreeSWITCH make official packages
>  - create docker images
>- SIP
>- XMPP
>- TURN
>  - create plugins for hosting control panels
>
>
>The reason for doing this is to make it easier for other people to
>collaborate in various ways, e.g. upstreams will be able to see where
>their work is going to be deployed.

What about https://taiga.io/  ? Looks like an evolution of redmine, it's free 
software, and they offer hosting free of charge for public projects.

I didn't try it, though, nor know how easy or difficult could be to move the 
data in the hosted project to an own instance in case you want it someday, 
and/or to other management system in case they vanish or become nonfree...

Regards

Laura Arjona Reina
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Re: hosted project management tools

2015-10-21 Thread Daniel Pocock


On 21/10/15 22:25, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/21/2015 10:04 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> 
>> so it is nice to know I could run it myself.  Do you know anybody who is
>> hosting it for community projects such as what I described?  I'm a bit
>> wary of hosting another application myself as it takes time away from
>> developing the things I actually want to create.
> 
> no, sorry.
> but its rather easy to install. php and a database and you are done.
> authentication in integration into other tools is a different thing, though.
> 

I agree it might be easy to install but there is always some ongoing
effort to apply security updates, deal with DoS attacks and so on.  In
my own experience, the more services I host, even if they appear trivial
to support, the more likely one of them will need some attention the
same day that I am leaving for vacation or whatever.  Another problem
I've had is that sometimes the packages are in Debian and then they are
abandoned (e.g. Bugzilla) and then I am stuck running that service on
some old version of Debian (the old Bugzilla packages kept working on
wheezy boxes but they fail if a box upgrades to jessie).  People often
don't appreciate the effort that teams like DSA put in to keep services
running 24x7 on the public Internet, if a service gets used seriously,
there is usually a lot more to it than just dropping in the package.

Regards,

Daniel