Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"):
> > Philip Hands writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"):
> > I think the maintainer saw the writing on the wall, so I count this as
> > a successful intervention by the TC. (I hope the new maintainers will
> > prove me right.) That there wasn't a formal vote is beside the point.
>
> I don't consider this case particularly successful. Regardless of what
> one thinks of the outcome, the process was subpar and had people sniping
> at each other. I don't think that's how the process ought to look.
Sorry, I evidently failed to be clear enough. I agree that the
process was bad. That means that the part of the outcome which is
`how to people feel now' is not good.
The context of my remarks above is precisely Phil's question:
I wonder which column on your tally sheet you will put this
outcome.
I meant just that the TC's power was used to depose an obstructive
maintainer. So this goes in the `TC did intervene' column of Phil's
supposed tally sheet.
> > I still (perhaps, even more so) believe we need to have a better way
> > of dealing with these kind of disputes.
>
> That I agree with.
We have seen a lot of disagreement here on -project about what shape
such a thing should be. Do you have any bright ideas ?
Ian.
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Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers
]] Ian Jackson
> Philip Hands writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"):
> > Ian Jackson writes:
> > > I still don't understand why the TC is so crushingly slow to conter
> > > maintainer power in Debian. As I say in my other emails, a result of
> > > the TC's inaction, maintainer power in Debian is nearly unassailable.
> >
> > I wonder which column on your tally sheet you will put this outcome.
>
> I think the maintainer saw the writing on the wall, so I count this as
> a successful intervention by the TC. (I hope the new maintainers will
> prove me right.) That there wasn't a formal vote is beside the point.
I don't consider this case particularly successful. Regardless of what
one thinks of the outcome, the process was subpar and had people sniping
at each other. I don't think that's how the process ought to look.
> I still (perhaps, even more so) believe we need to have a better way
> of dealing with these kind of disputes.
That I agree with.
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