Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-05 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 10:40:10PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-05-05 at 16:54 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > On 05/02/2017 02:35 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> > > With my DSA hat on, we don't like being guinea pigs for development
> > > boards and pre-release hardware. This kind of hardware tends to be
> > > unreliable and require too much hand-holding. That said, we definitely
> > > welcome hardware sponsorship and partners.
> > 
> > Absolutely. However, you may know that commercial distros are making
> > their certification program a non-free (as in: you must pay your beer)
> > thing. I do believe it'd be a fair way to get free (as in free beer)
> > hardware for the DSA team. It's up to us to define the terms.
> 
> Free as in free kittens?

I'm not interested in hardware as payment for certification. It's too open to
abuse. Charge a fee for certification testing; use the funds to buy hardware.

-- 
Luca Filipozzi
http://www.crowdrise.com/SupportDebian



Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-05 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2017-05-05 at 16:54 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 05/02/2017 02:35 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> > With my DSA hat on, we don't like being guinea pigs for development
> > boards and pre-release hardware. This kind of hardware tends to be
> > unreliable and require too much hand-holding. That said, we definitely
> > welcome hardware sponsorship and partners.
> 
> Absolutely. However, you may know that commercial distros are making
> their certification program a non-free (as in: you must pay your beer)
> thing. I do believe it'd be a fair way to get free (as in free beer)
> hardware for the DSA team. It's up to us to define the terms.

Free as in free kittens?

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
The program is absolutely right; therefore, the computer must be wrong.



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Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/02/2017 02:35 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> With my DSA hat on, we don't like being guinea pigs for development
> boards and pre-release hardware. This kind of hardware tends to be
> unreliable and require too much hand-holding. That said, we definitely
> welcome hardware sponsorship and partners.

Absolutely. However, you may know that commercial distros are making
their certification program a non-free (as in: you must pay your beer)
thing. I do believe it'd be a fair way to get free (as in free beer)
hardware for the DSA team. It's up to us to define the terms.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)