Re: GitHub Open Source Survey 2017

2017-06-14 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
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On 2017-06-14 13:06, Chris Lamb wrote:
>> Well over 50% have marked CLAs of some type of importance. Isn't
>> that high?
> Yes, I would have guessed much lower. I would hope it was due to a 
> philosophical reaction to assigning copyright to
> $also_commercial_corp rather than it being merely a hoop to jump
> through before a PR will be accepted, but the latter might be
> skewing the stats.
> 
> Can we get more clarity from GitHub itself here..?


Looking at the data it seems like the data come from the following:

> 7) When thinking about whether to use open source software, how 
> important are the following things?

> 8) When thinking about whether to contribute to an open source 
> project, how important are the following things?

Graded by
* Very important to have
* Somewhat important to have
* Not important either way
* Somewhat important not to have
* Very important not to have
* Don't know what this is

Given those options I have a hard time seeing that people putting
"Very important not to have" should be bundled together with "Somewhat
important to have" =)

Looked in the survey_data file and the break down for the two types of
responses looks like this:

 User   Contributor
  490 419   Very important to have
 1024 712   Somewhat important to have
 22821266   Not important either way
  336 327   Somewhat important not to have
  157 166   Very important not to have
  488 280   Don't know what this is

I am worried that a good portion of the people outside of "Don't know
what this is" actually does not now what it is, most of them are
indifferent to them.

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Re: GitHub Open Source Survey 2017

2017-06-14 Thread Chris Lamb
Martin Bagge / brother wrote:

> Well over 50% have marked CLAs of some type of importance. Isn't that
> high?

Yes, I would have guessed much lower. I would hope it was due to a
philosophical reaction to assigning copyright to $also_commercial_corp
rather than it being merely a hoop to jump through before a PR will be
accepted, but the latter might be skewing the stats.

Can we get more clarity from GitHub itself here..?


Regards,

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 : :'  : Chris Lamb
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Re: GitHub Open Source Survey 2017

2017-06-14 Thread Chris Lamb
Martin Bagge / brother wrote:

> Well over 50% have marked CLAs of some type of importance. Isn't that
> high?

Yes, I would have guessed much lower. I would hope it was due to a
philosophical reaction to assigning copyright to $also_commercial_corp
rather than it being merely a hoop to jump through before a PR will be
accepted, but the latter might be skewing the stats.

Can we get more clarity from GitHub itself here..?


Regards,

-- 
  ,''`.
 : :'  : Chris Lamb
 `. `'`  la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk
   `-



Re: GitHub Open Source Survey 2017

2017-06-14 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
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On 2017-06-06 19:23, Chris Lamb wrote:
> GitHub recently published the announcements of their 2017 Open
> Source Survey:
> 
> http://opensourcesurvey.org/2017/
> 
> 
> I was wondering whether any fellow developers had read this and
> whether they had evaulated it in the context of the Debian project.
> To kick this off, let me quote some of their key insights:

Thanks. I had not read it before and still hasn't read all of it yet.

Spotted a detail in Fig. 3 that wasn't really addressed as far as I
can tell.

Well over 50% have marked CLAs of some type of importance. Isn't that
high?
They might be marked high with the sentiment of "I don't want them and
I deeply care for them to go away" I assume but still.

At the same time license is the most important type of documentation
when it comes to choosing the project to use it seems.

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