Re: LaMont Jones, WTH are you doing?
Hi, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > • In addition to that, this time, > ‣ it’s got an Original-Maintainer field > ‣ “Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers ” > … excuse me, what? This would have been catched by Lintian: E maintainer-address-causes-mail-loops-or-bounces Ubuntu Developers W unknown-field-in-dsc original-maintainer (from http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com.html#postfix) At least the first one looks like a candidate for auto-rejects to me. The latter one is likely also very typical for this issue, at least with that specific header field. http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com.html gives btw. an idea on which other packages currently have the very same issue. :-) Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130206185115.ga18...@sym.noone.org
Re: NMUing "maintainer address bounces" bugs
Hi,
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> Long storry short: A couple of days ago, I noticed the e-mails send to
> one address of a maintainer could not be delivered. As that e-mail
> address was used in several other packages (about 12 IIRC), I opened RC
> bugs against these packages.
>
> Please don't do that! IMHO the proper way to handle these bugs is to
> see, if the maintainer[1] is fixing them himselve.
All packages which were quickly to fix were uploaded within hours. Two
of the packages were already orphaned. He provided updated packages, I
QA uploads based on them.
We didn't upload the GNUstep related stuff immediately (and I was fine
with that btw.) because of the upcoming GNUstep transition. (If I
would have expected NMUs for that, I'd probably would have suggested
to upload them anyway.)
> 1: I took care, that the maintainer was made aware of these bugs
> through other channels.
JFTR: Those other channels were me going into the neighbour office. I
though did neither check if ahe dded a note to the corresponding bug
reports nor reminded him to do so, so I feel a little bit guilty for
that, too.
Fun fact: I sat beside Willi at the BSP, but didn't know he's NMUing
those issues before he did so. :-)
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Re: revenue sharing agreement with DuckDuckGo
Hi, just to clear up a few things zack and me just discussed on IRC: Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 11:00:04PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > > Anther interesting thing in there is a requirement that we inform DDG > > > > thirty days in advance of releasing changes to the implementation of > > > > the links to it. > > > > I have some bad feeling which cries "non-free" here, because that > > sounds a lot like "no modification allowed". > > What?!? No. We can do what we want with the code, which is Free Software > and DDG has not the power to change its license. Well, the wording my upstream used to explain what agreement he has with DDG sounded way more restrictive than it really seems and (in retroperspective) was likely emotionally touched. > Simply, if we stop using the search link we stop receiving donations > and we might have to reinstate the agreement again to restart > receiving donations. Ok, if there's no penalty, it's fine for me. Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120330095619.gs17...@sym.noone.org
Re: revenue sharing agreement with DuckDuckGo
Hi, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > Anther interesting thing in there is a requirement that we inform DDG > > thirty days in advance of releasing changes to the implementation of > > the links to it. I have some bad feeling which cries "non-free" here, because that sounds a lot like "no modification allowed". > It mentions before "product release". We can ask to clarify that will be > interpreted, in the context of Debian, as stable releases. But even in > the most strict interpretation (i.e. an upload), what we risk is that > the agreement will be recessed and we stop receiving the donations. ... or may have to return some of the donations? Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120329210004.gk17...@sym.noone.org
Re: revenue sharing agreement with DuckDuckGo
Hi, Steffen Möller wrote: > > On 12-03-27 at 10:26am, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >> Dear Project Members, > >> thanks to the introductions by Mike Hommey, as Iceweasel maintainer, > >> I've been approached by a representative of the DuckDuckGo (DDG) search > >> engine [1] about a revenue sharing agreement among them and the Debian > >> Project. > >> > >> [1] https://duckduckgo.com/ > [..] > >> I welcome feedback on this matter, > > The problem I see is with a competition with upstream. If we in any > way lower the impact firefox has for google, then this has a direct > effect not only on firefox but also on our relation with them and > other upstreams. Same here. And I do package software which has such an agreement with DuckDuckGo: http://repo.or.cz/w/conkeror.git/commitdiff/7c0cd5aa And even if I wouldn't see myself as part of upstream (and the money goes to those upstream devs hosting the project's infrastructure -- of which I'm not part of), I would say that we should at no point replace upstream's markers with ours. (Removing them, but not adding different ones is a different discussion, though, and I currently have no opinion about that.) Most of our upstream projects are small and are neither as well-known as Debian as a whole nor do most of them receive so many donations outside of the internet as we do. And the majority of the code of the software we distribute is not written by us but by them. I though think that the best way for all free software projects is to not make any such agreements to not impose any restrictions on other contributors to the project. I though do realize that not all projects can afford that. Disclaimer: I haven't read the whole discussion yet, just grepped through it (mutt patterns FTW! :-) to find the thread about upstream projects and checked if conkeror was already mentioned. Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120329205002.gj17...@sym.noone.org
Re: [No-more-Debconf-discuss] Your biggest achievement during past DebConfs (aka new DebConf promoting campaign)
Hi Francesca,
Francesca Ciceri wrote:
> > So where shall we send such quotes?
>
> In this thread? :)
Well, I don't think we should clutter -project or debconf-discuss with
all those replies I expect. (Or don't you expect so many replies? :-)
> And I think could be better to -project instead that debconf-discuss
> (I've just set reply-to accordingly).
I actually expected -publicity as target for this stuff as it was
explicitly mentioned in the mail.
> Or, if you prefer send me a private reply at madamezou@d.o
That's a good choice, too, IMHO.
Regards, Axel
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Your biggest achievement during past DebConfs (aka new DebConf promoting campaign)
Hi,
Francesca Ciceri wrote:
> members of the Debconf Team and Publicity Team need your help!!1!!
>
> (nooo! don't hide!!)
>
> We'd like to have a quote from all Debian Developers and contributors
> naming their most important technical and/or social achievement reached
> during past DebConfs.
So where shall we send such quotes?
Regards, Axel
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Re: 1 year release good enough.
dE . wrote:
> Thus, it's critical to hate and make people hate Microsoft and dive into
> politics in order to make opensource desktops successful.
No. Hate is definitively the wrong way to propagate FLOSS.
It should be a "together", not an "against each other". (Counts for
the the big companies, too, though. IMHO parts of Microsoft and Apple
are on the right way already.)
> Rather, I personally have a more aggressive philosophy.
Obviously. There's enough aggression on Debian's mailing lists
already. We surely don't need more of it, more to the opposite.
Regards, Axel
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Fitting Debian branded Swiss Knife Plastic Caps on existing Swiss Knives (was: Re: Debian Swiss Knife - Order yours now! - Yes, NOW.)
Hi all, I know this information is late, but maybe someone else was asking this himself this, too, before ordering: Didier Raboud wrote: > > http://wiki.debian.org/Merchandise/SwissKnives > > > > All the needed information is already available on the Debian wiki (…):. > > As was mentioned in the original annoucement, the pre-ordering period will en > on 31. August 2011. That is today. So if you want a Debian-branded Swiss > Knife, please give the above wiki page a visit and register yourself as soon > as possible. I will definitely close the pre-ordering period on friday. > > > Two models⁰ are available: > > a) the big "Nomad", with 11 functions (34 CHF) > > b) the geeky "CyberTool 29", with 28 functions (41 CHF) If you, like me, already have a similar Victorinox knife with the same size of plastic caps but with more or other tools than the two offered models, and wondered if you can exchange those caps against the Debian branded one: Yes it should be possible. There is a German written howto at http://www.messerjoker.com/PDF/griffschalen.pdf which explains how to exchange the plastic caps. If others are interested, too, I can translate that howto into English. (Found via the also German forum thread at http://www.messerforum.net/showthread.php?t=63270.) A picture of the plastic caps not yet mounted is https://www.faz.net/m/%7B5596A12F-EC76-4E15-847D-AD5197522F51%7DPicture.jpg (picture 8 from https://www.faz.net/s/Rub58F0CED852D8491CB25EDD10B71DB86F/Doc~E46334561702C4BBF9B8D79AFD5E6C662~ATpl~Ecommon~SMed.html#F4DC25F0C3F240F9AC4D437D23390965) > I would like to highlight that the big "Nomad" hasn't yet reached its minimum > amount of pre-orders for the order to happen. JFTR: It has now reached over 35 knives and so both orders will happen. Yay! Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110831173959.gx29...@sym.noone.org
io.debian.net (kfreebsd-i386 porterbox) downtime later today
Hi, Axel Beckert wrote: > io.debian.net, the kfreebsd-i386 porterbox, is back online after we > exchanged the dead power supply unit. > > Nevertheless the root filesystem is currently dirty due to two bad > sectors on one of the harddisks. > > Expect a maintenance downtime of io.debian.net in the near future for > replacing that faulty disk, too. The downtime of io.debian.net for the disk exchange will happen this evening, probably around 6pm to 7pm local time (CEST; 4pm to 5pm UTC). Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert , http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `-| 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
