Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team

2020-02-19 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 2/20/20 8:30 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> For the record; I have _absolutely no doubt_ that Sam is working to benefit 
> Debian.  But in that particular instance, I happen to strongly disagree that 
> his actions have a positive effect on Debian (the community).

+1

Regards,
Daniel



Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

2019-07-24 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 7/24/19 7:29 AM, Harlan Lieberman-Berg wrote:
> If we're not willing to force people to use debhelper, forcing them to use 
> git and
> salsa seems much more extreme.

+1

let's first, if at all, get the mandatory use of debhelper into policy
which is much more important.

Regards,
Daniel



Re: Presentation of iso downloads - simpler like Fedora?

2012-08-16 Thread Daniel Baumann

On 08/16/2012 01:11 PM, Ben Armstrong wrote:

I am not really keen on either placing a prominent warning or in making the 
site uglier


the current one can't really be made much uglier anyway, however.. i'll 
intend to do a non-misunderstandable 'thing' on 
live.debian.net/index.html saying that it's 'developers here, users 
there (on $debian.org)' sometimes soon-ish when i'll upgrade the ikiwiki 
themeing.



Assuming that it's even possible to trim down the packages to fit on a CD, then 
perhaps a
$DESKTOP-light or task-livecd-$DESKTOP package with a reduced set of 
dependencies from the
default desktop package could be created, thus giving the Debian Live people a 
package to use
for their CD images, and somewhere to report a bug when the resulting image 
creeps beyond the
size of a CD.


That would be fantastic.


it would be nice to handle non-live images, live images, and 'installer' 
tasks the same way (no problem if that happens all throught the tasksel 
package).


not sure if that's reasonably possible though, since there are some 
merits (for how debian-cd works at least) in 'autogenerate' these lists 
somewhat in order to react on archive changes wrt/ cd size contstraints, 
rather than to rely on a somewhat 'unflexible' (as in, needs sourceful 
upload) meta-package farm.


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Re: Installation Live CD

2012-01-17 Thread Daniel Baumann

On 01/17/2012 10:30 AM, Philip Hands wrote:


Well, having recently tried to find an image that I might be able to
recommend to someone new to Debian, and having quickly found the
friendly looking live.debian.net front page, I was a bit surprised to be
presented with this after a couple of clicks:


which is an entirely different entry point (which we should probably 
make clear): live.d.n is primarily for the guys working on debian-live, 
debian.org is the entry point to get your debian image of choice.


for live images, that entry point would be..

debian.org - Getting Debian - Try Debian live before installing


which is not exactly helpful to a newbie -- also, even I am left
wondering why there is a split between i386 and amd64 if the images
below are supposed to be hybrid.


hybrid = iso-hybrid (you can put it on an optical media or dump it on a 
block device); not multi-arch (e.g. dual-boot amd64 and i386).



Anyway, then I chose iso-hybrid, which seems like what I might be after,
at which point we see that the only images that're small enough to
actually fit onto a CD are the rescue and the standard ones, which
appear not to include X, and so are hardly likely to be enticing to a
newbie


see debian-live ml archive for the reasons why the image flavours are 
like they are; a user friendly explanation is on available 
http://www.debian.org/CD/live/



I can understand that an automated build is unlikely to be able to
generate something that's just as good as knoppix,


s/automated build/the package selection in tasksel/

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Re: Account name change policy

2010-09-14 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 09/09/2010 10:16 AM, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
  Given that the reasons for such a change request can be considered
 something rather personal it should be considered at the discretion of
 the person to publish it.

i was not talking about the reason of the change, but the change itself.

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Re: Account name change policy

2010-09-07 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 09/07/2010 05:32 PM, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
 Procedure:

[...]

 If the request is granted, DAM will then initiate the neccessary steps
 with DSA.

will such a 'change' of an account be published on -project or somewhere
appropriate, so that others get aware of it?

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debian.ch AGM 2010 on 2010-05-20

2010-04-26 Thread Daniel Baumann

Hi all,

this is the announcement of the AGM 2010 of debian.ch:

  Date:  Thursday, 20th May 2010
  Time:  20:00-21:00 (CEST aka +0200)
  Place: irc://irc.debian.org/debian.ch (OFTC)


Current (temporary) Agenda
==

Apart from the anually re-occuring things from every AGM (e.g. the 
reports and elections[0]), the current temporary agenda contains the 
following additional items:


Bylaws:
  - dba: Updating bylaws to current state of the art of legal writing

The actuary proposes a new edition of the bylaws that are worded in
the current lege artis, a longer mail with the diffs should be sent
to commun...@lists.debian.ch before the final announcement of the
AGM 2010. The proposed new bylaws will not change anything in
substance though.

  - dba: Accepting bylaws translated to English as legally binding

The actuary is doing a translation of the proposed new bylaws
from German to English. Assuming the revised bylaws are accepted,
he proposes to accept the English translation as legally binding
alternative to the German ones. The translation should be sent
to the mailinglist together with the revised bylaws (see above).

Italian and French translations could be initiated after AGM 2010,
assuming a qualified person can be found to create the translations,
they could be declared as legally binding as well. Otherwise, they
would stay as informal and unofficial translations for the time
being (Luca and Didier already expressed their interest in probably
doing that during AGM 2009).

  - dba: Changing the legal seat from Zurich to Bern.

The actuary proposes to move the legal seat from Zurich to Bern,
both for legal and political reasons.

  - dba: Write down in the protocol the reminder, that bylaws should be
kept 'stable' for the next future, by not being tempted to put
non-useful/non-required stuff inside.

  - mfk: revise membership:
+ membership should only be automatic for DDs with permanent
  residence in Switzerland
+ other DDs, and non-DDs with advocations, need to show up at the
  AGM when their membership is to be decided and introduce
  themselves, travel will (better: can) be funded.

  - mfk/ip(?): voluntary membership fee


Note about submitting items for the Agenda
==

Any member of debian.ch can submit items for the agenda either at 
anytime in advance, or at the AGM itself. However, all items of 
relevance must be announced properly, items of relevance brought up at 
the AGM cannot valid be voted upon. The deadline for items of relevance 
for the AGM 2010 is 2010-05-05 23:59:59 +0200.


Any non-member of debian.ch cannot directly submit items to the agenda, 
but indirectly by suggesting them to the actuary at i...@debian.ch or 
any other member instead.



Final Agenda


The final agenda for the AGM 2010 will be sent on 2010-06-06.


Regards,
Daniel

[0] unless someone is extraordinarily stepping back from the board,
there will be no elections on AGM 2010 since we've done elections
for 2010 already on AGM 2009.

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Call for Agenda and Date for debian.ch AGM 2010

2010-04-15 Thread Daniel Baumann
. The deadline for items of relevance 
is two weeks and one day before the AGM is held.


Any non-member of debian.ch cannot directly submit items to the agenda, 
but indirectly by suggesting them to the actuary or any other member 
instead.


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[0] http://doodle.com/fxbymubic6mdypcx

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Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

2009-07-29 Thread Daniel Baumann
Luk Claes wrote:
 The project is free to accept or
 refuse the plan. Of course refusing the plan will have its consequences
 within the Release Team as well as within the project.

and by announcing this plan that *bold* to the whole world, you also
made perfectly sure that it is as unconvenient as possible for the
project to overrule an already announced RM decission, publicity-wise.

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Re: Genericly-named debian.net domains for private use

2009-04-12 Thread Daniel Baumann
Adeodato Simó wrote:
 Okay. Well, I’ve just put Daniel (owner of {git,backports}.debian.net)
 on CC

Thank you for making me aware of it, I've read through the thread now.

To summarise, there appears to be two seperated though related issues:

  * that people (me) using a debian.net subdomain for which a debian.org
subdomain exists, for their personal stuff, as it is allegedly the
case for git.debian.net.

  * that people (me) using a debian.net subdomain for which no debian
subdomain exists but another pre-existing, unofficial service on a
different but similar domain is known, as it is the case for
backports.debian.net.

Apart from the (apparently causing) initial mail[0] who confused
backports.debian.net with backports.org which could be understand as
reasoning for the specific case, the second issue, i don't see any
reasoning given in the thread for the general case, the first issue.

 so that he can take a look at this thread and see what their
 peers think of this, and he can proceed as he considers appropriate.

for the first issue, given that:

  * git.debian.org exists and is in use,
  * git.debian.net is not (only) used for my personal stuff,
  * there are about 200 (+/- 5 i guess) packages in the archive using
git.debian.net,
  * there has not been any 'confusions' about it known to me
whetever some repository is on git.debian.org or git.debian.net,

i don't see grounds to stop using the git.debian.net subdomain as i
currently do.

however, in respect to the fact that git.debian.org exists and is in
use, the people running git.debian.org may ask me to switch to another
domain if they feel the need for using git.debian.net as a redirect to
git.debian.org.

for the second issue, given that:

  * backports.debian.org does not exist and is not in use,
  * backports.org is just another unofficial service,
  * there has only one 'confusion'[0] about it know to me,

i don't see grounds to stop using the backports.debian.net subdomain as
i currently do.

however, as above, once backports.org or any other unofficial service in
the future became backports.debian.org, same respect as i shown above to
git.debian.org may certainly apply.

Regards,
Daniel

[0] e13a36b30903272035mb6df916l9f3a28b79465c...@mail.gmail.com

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Re: get off your ass

2008-04-25 Thread Daniel Baumann
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
 On to, 2008-04-24 at 21:45 -0400, Craig Witherspoon wrote:
 Craig Witherspoon author Linux for Dummies
  craig @scribblersbay.com
 
 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linux-Dummies-DeeAnn-LeBlanc/dp/0470116498/ref=sr_1_1 
 says:
 
 Linux for Dummies (For Dummies) (Paperback) by DeeAnn LeBlanc (Author)

not that it matters in any way, but he appears to have co-authored the
first edition of said book:

http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Dummies-First-Craig-Witherspoon/dp/0764502751/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1209107965sr=1-1

Linux for Dummies, First Edition (Paperback)
by Craig Witherspoon (Author), Coletta Witherspoon (Author), Jon Hall
(Author)

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Re: Debian Live (Was: Debian Logo Use)

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Baumann
Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 02:56:51AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
 Maybe debian-live could coordinate with d-i to release some beta*
 snapshots of the testing distribution which are known to work.

that's not actually a problem. the only overlapping thing is the kernel
and live-installer, wheras the latter is almost but not quite ready for
prime-time. apart from that, -live images and d-i images can be released
completely independent.

 The debian-installer team is already lacking enough dedicated people to
 properly answer all its bug reports [1].  More releases (of any kinds)
 that would not have been fully tested would mean more reports.  As this
 would be on top of all other d-i duties, I strongly doubt that it would
 be a good idea.

when d-i beta2 is there, it would be nice to have /combined/ -live
images (that is a live image with normal d-i netinstall on it). they
could be released one day after beta2 release is on the mirrors. as the
d-i part on those images do not differ from the normal d-i images, i
don't see any additional burden for d-i team.

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Re: Debian Logo Use

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Baumann
Will Kaiser wrote:
 They only have Etch images
 available (at least last I checked) and we're working with Lenny and Sid.

no more true; lenny and sid initial sync from last friday has finished,
finally.

 I'm also pretty sure our goals are aligned a bit differently. The
 marketing on the Debian Live CD website doesn't spell out that they are
 targeting Desktop Linux or use as an alternative to derivatives such as
 Ubuntu and friends. We also use a cool but non-standard apt
 configuration. Mainly though, it's the marketing on the live cd project
 that won't work with our primary goal. To appeal to (non-techie) Ubuntu
 users, you pretty much need to use puppets and pictures to explain what
 your distro can do.

both the homepage and 'marketing' are something nobody had yet time to
spend with. if you have time for it, you're more than welcome.

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Re: Debian Live (Was: Debian Logo Use)

2008-04-15 Thread Daniel Baumann
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 While Debian Live is really nice, some things could be improved about
 it. Each time I wanted to use it, I ran into an issue that required
 going to IRC to ask how to work around the problem (the problem was
 always already known).

as you know, debian testing and unstable are in flux and depends heavily
on the maintainers ability to fix core packages for debian-live (e.g.
kernel-modules). if those are broken, debian-live is broken.

 It would really be a good thing to have tested snapshots (in addition
 to the daily builds, which are not guaranteed to work AFAIK), so people
 could just download images, write them to an USB stick, and enjoy. We
 don't need to have perfectly up-to-date tested snapshots. Updating them
 every 2-3 months would clearly be enough.

see ml; images are back on live.d.n, whereas *-builds/ are autobuilds
and release/ are manually tested images (though release is currently
rsyncing in).

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Re: linhdd concerns

2007-11-27 Thread Daniel Baumann
[ late, but for the records. ]

Kartik Mistry wrote:
 linhdd introduce binary abs_fdisk which was modified copy of fdisk
 from new version 0.4. It was arch:all before that too, and previous
 maintainer set it to arch:all saying 'it will save achieve space'.

hu?? the previous maintainer, me, did set arch all because the package
*was* arch all only, it did not contain any architecture depended data
at all- it is just a script (up to 0.3-3; no clue what you/upstream did
afterwards).

 As suggested to me, I did removal of linhdd. To fix this bug, we have
 to build util-linux and I think its too much and probably wrong to
 have fdisk stay in /usr/bin.

why not just having uploaded the last sane version with an epoche? then,
you could have took your time to fix the 0.4 version properly.. it's bad
to see 'my' package go just because of that..

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Re: vendor

2007-09-08 Thread Daniel Baumann
Paul Cager wrote:
 wrt/ labeling the discs, it's usually done by writing the official disk
 label on it. You can find the label of the respective disk in
 /.disk/label on each of them.
 
 I think this is /.disk/info (on etch, at least). But I always just write:

umm, typo.. i wanted to write '/.disk/info to designate the label',
which ended up in '/.disk/label'. sorry for the confusion and thanks for
 correcting.

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Re: vendor

2007-09-07 Thread Daniel Baumann
Jonathan Norman wrote:
 Hello.

Hi,

 I would like to become a vendor for debian but I have some
 questions that where not answered in the vendor information section.

great.

 Is there a set price that I can see the CD / DVD at or am I allowed to set
 my own price? Ideally I'd like to make a small profit to fund
 development for some of my projects.

Debian is free software. You are completely free to choose the price you
find appropriate (for the binaries).

Remember that some of the source code is licensed under the GNU General
Public License. This means, you have some special obligations when
distribution binaries without source accompanied (such as GPL version 2,
clause 3b).

 Also does it matter what media I
 used as I was thinking of buying bulk DVD-R and CD-R discs and burning
 the image to them. Does it matter if it's got a debian logo on or says
 something like TDK DVD-R with debain 4.0 etch written on with pen?

Debian is free software. You are completely free to choose the media you
find appripriate.

wrt/ labeling the discs, it's usually done by writing the official disk
label on it. You can find the label of the respective disk in
/.disk/label on each of them.

Regards,
Daniel

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Re:

2007-05-30 Thread Daniel Baumann
Snow, David wrote:
 Hi, all I want to do is listen to radio 2 (sad I know).

Unfortunately, you are on the wrong list. Please ask again on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and provide a bit more information.

Regards,
Daniel

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Re: Change of the debian code-name base?

2007-05-28 Thread Daniel Baumann
Chris Waters wrote:
 The reason for using Toy Story is the historical connection, through
 Bruce Perens, between the project and that movie.  I'm not aware of
 any connection, however remote, between Debian and The Simpsons.

right, additionally if common knowledge that the first seasons of
simpsons were created on a proprietary operating system (irix) with
proprietary software.

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Re: Change of the debian code-name base?

2007-05-28 Thread Daniel Baumann
Daniel Baumann wrote:
 right, additionally if common knowledge that the first seasons of
 simpsons were created on a proprietary operating system (irix) with
 proprietary software.

s/if common knowledge/it's common knowledge/

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Re: Change of the debian code-name base?

2007-05-28 Thread Daniel Baumann
Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
 And what does the common knowledge says about the OS used to create toy
 story characters?

no clue, i never liked or got interested in toy story.


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Re: Software Currency and Expiration Dates

2007-05-11 Thread Daniel Baumann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

Hi,

 I was wondering if I could have infomation regarding the current versions
 and support expiration dates of the following software:

The current stable release of Debian is 4.0 (Etch), released on April
8, 2007.

The previous stable release of Debian is 3.1r (Sarge), initially
released on June 6th, 2005.

The rule is, that an initial released distribution is security supported
for about one year after the next stable distribution has been released,
except when another stable distribution is released within this year.

The next stable release of Debian (Lenny) is planned to happen roughly
at the end of 2008. That means:

Given this plan above, Debian 4.0 is supported at minimum until end of
2009, and Debian 3.1 at minimum until April, 2008.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
Daniel Baumann

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Re: Improving the DAM-queue?

2006-10-14 Thread Daniel Baumann
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 Thus, people who don't know me and
 don't know the quality of my work must waste time checking up on my work
 so that they feel safe sponsoring my packages.  That time would be
 better spent helping out someone who is just getting started.

I agree with your other points, however this one here is mooth.

Every sponsor shall review any package as carefull as possible,
regardless from whom it was prepared, to ensure integrity of the archive.

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Re: [AMENDMENT]: Release Etch now, with source-less but legal and freely licensed firmware

2006-09-27 Thread Daniel Baumann
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 ,
 |  1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software
 | community (Social Contract #4);
 |  2. We acknowledge that there is a lot of progress in the kernel
 | firmware issue; however, it is not yet finally sorted out; 
 |  3. We assure the community that there will be no regressions in
 | the progress made for freedom in the kernel distributed by
 | Debian relative to the Sarge  release in Etch
 |  4. We give priority to the timely release of Etch over sorting every
 | bit out; for this reason, we will treat removal of sourceless
 | firmware as a best-effort process, and deliver firmware in udebs as
 | long as it is necessary for installation (like all udebs), and
 | firmware included in the kernel itself as part of Debian Etch,
 | as long as we are legally allowed to do so, and the firmware is
 | distributed upstream under a license that complies with the DFSG. 
 `

seconded.

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Re: Live image: strategic for Debian or not?

2006-08-23 Thread Daniel Baumann
Martin Schulze wrote:
 There also
 the most official (even if still a non-official sub-project)
 project Debian Live (live.debian.net) which refers to the
 Debian Live Initiative.

There were much things happened behind the curtains, we are working on
having an alpha release soon (in about a week or two), and then asking
for beeing accepted as official.

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Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel Baumann
Gustavo Franco wrote:
 For existing packages:
 
 * The package that contains only the Maintainer field with the name of
 a person and not a group can be uploaded by any DD. ping the current
 maintainer is good but not required;

then I will have to found a 'these-are-daniels-packages'-group
consisting only of me? *scnr* :)

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Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel Baumann
Gustavo Franco wrote:
 I meant with group of maintainers,  number of uploaders  1. Joerg
 Jaspert said that he wouldn't like to be forced to team maintenance
 and suggested 0day NMUs for = normal bugs with current rules (patch
 to the bts), so if you add this rule to my suggestion, i think it's
 better than 'ping not required', would be better than now too.

Sure, sure.. Joergs addition would make much things easier, and I
welcome if someone does a working NMU for a bug which I was to lazy to
close it myself.

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Re: ping the mirrors team

2005-07-20 Thread Daniel Baumann
martin f krafft wrote:
 The ETH Zurich has sent you an offer for an additional primary
 mirror on 1 June 2005. This offer has remained unanswered up until
 the present day (unless I've been purposely left out of the loop).
 In combination with their offer to host ftp.debian.org which also
 remained unanswered for long[0], this is not exactly motivating for
 the ETH (or any other similar institution) to volunteer resources in
 the future.

It is not only the offer to host specific machines for the
debian-project. Also the wish issued several month before, to turn
debian.ethz.ch into ftp.ch.debian.org for becoming an official mirror
was never answered (of course, all requirements are fulfilled).

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