Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 20/08/15 12:05, Daniel Sousa wrote: On 20/08/15 09:07, Christoph Egger wrote: Hi! Daniel Sousa dan...@sousa.me writes: On 19/08/15 23:08, Riley Baird wrote: What about get.debian.org ? (There is get.debian.net) Off-topic, but I just had a look at get.debian.net, and it uses Google Analytics, which seems strange for a Debian site. Also, it's broken. All links return a 404. Anyone already contacted the team? Christoph I just did Links should be working again. :) - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) f...@debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV1cPMAAoJEMa4WYSFUi4t9SwQAJ7WH+1nr+IkaPfOvlG/OEKX H6UZE2q5HlS3PHYBAYCxgfdFGCu/9SvxIgzo8qeRXcsCprx6nkEAOxFYdA8UyeEy /x9dc9tUt28ef1tsrXIe8WQTAtpBJKv3WMP1RS+rjiuPy3SmaAJoIbY5pv3TZIT1 l6s2TDfa84tAZa7LvKlPHD7eVIi51BeR9o/Dy6KGDbxskhIV2MQnEMyYlMw/mCXR VHxBaVpspbBRPi4fYEoltPjfZ0+2JJ27s74GEbsW+vIdvfEWIKWHyne7uZEsD4Nq eb7kc6ykUx/o/K1E2PEg01Dy6iBnZNRKi1ZKFjHcRmRXmlUSWjtn1N01P7rj0PVY PxLaYTA3GO9IBfvqNeWndXH/ickJudLW/dbLQLwshb3TaLzpk81l61nZv/hBaO5e SdYmCEQoSY9e1+38MmcemKL5nG0kcZ65blEGPaulsfmKuKB9sw3p34TewmnfzId/ YkKOU/s0OCZIbhGyLScptY6u2J8+uLKWd2WhvLt+owvx2v0aGnr3p2Ur+gKrjtDg LFTYJEu97Gy0t95POKCMQ+RLCLyiLHcr5HSOzcPNWO4YoybyocnyvnH4FsXLNA1I rxf8pVQ2VucCqcBoK64I4jPtvc/NEMMGarwofYhvpQY+4ZHfwDqDj6sOGOoFovIl avl9SzrzDaoCJRPBS40h =NHMV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Debian FTPMaster Meeting, September
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29-08-2010 10:57, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Agenda .. - dak policy That is, a command so $whoever_DD can do policy work on a suite, which is otherwise run by ftpmaster. Examples: backports.org, volatile, possibly p-u. The teams of that define which packages go in those suites, while ftpmaster runs the suite (and has the usual legalise stuff and general rules around the archive). - data.debian.org We finally have a machine we can actually realize this on, so start it - Fixup various started threads in our coding (contents, generate-packages-sources, ...) Not sure if you already have the answer, if not, perhaps you could use the meeting to talk about this: Regarding the descriptions translations, the plan for Squeeze+1 is to still rsync the files to DAK? There are some other infrastructure/plans in place regarding this or the plan is to get this with tdebs? As i18n, I would love to work on that for Squeeze+1, so having some direction/plans would be great to know how to proceed. Perhaps there are some plans to have dak handling Translation files from inside, even without tdebs. :) Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx7VHYACgkQCjAO0JDlyka+JgCeNIlFMjSaoUQH+ualW4hEkvi4 z1EAn1scZO5jUETFQ7d37RUFVtn7JK9B =ApXH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c7b5477.2000...@funlabs.org
Re: Debian redesign
. Thank you for your work. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkp0u+EACgkQCjAO0JDlykbzjgCgi902gHft2FFyqEI0mBLkvkBw 2kAAn0+RdV+3S1k+DfNNBB6rjPY2FYGW =qZUj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian redesign
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30-07-2009 07:52, Mark Brown wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:19:51AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: The new simplified swirl looks cleaner, and it would be nice to move to a free-er font. The example changes to the website made it look Might it be worth considering using the new font so on even if we end up keeping the current swirl? The proposal during DebConf used a non-free font with a free alternative and some people raised the idea of creating a new one, well, the same idea applies to our current logo's font, it's just a matter of implement it (and yes, Font Copyright is different from Software/Trademark). There is no basis to say that the logo/font change would have a positive impact in our brand. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpyvBkACgkQCjAO0JDlykYuQwCffQOu4bG4q6hVCcDIR8/oL94r 42YAnjsNpoUNa71VKW+uEM9vDGx2cELt =ECsz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: so ... let's merge DAM and FD?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02-07-2009 18:15, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 02/07/09 at 12:05 -0700, Richard Hecker wrote: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Richard Hecker wrote: While consensus might exist that eliminating bureaucracy is good, division of labor can be a good thing too. I do not think you have established the need to combine the FD and DAM tasks. Are you claiming the DAMs are too bureaucratic? No, what is bureaucratic is having to wait one month for FD to review one application, just to say `hey it's complete`, and pass it to the DAM. Then wait another month. I don't see the point in it being reviewed twice if FD has no say in the final decision and his only task is to check that everything is complete. In this community, do you really want to suggest we have too many eyes looking for problems? Seriously, Richard. You became a DD in 2001, and since then, you have only done 17 uploads on 3 different packages (last one in 2007, on the only package you maintain: set6x86). Emilio isn't a DD yet, and has already been in the Changed-By: field of 80 uploads. And given that for most of them it was work done inside the GNOME team, he probably touched a lot more packages. Don't you think that there's some sense in listening to what Emilio says, whithout immediately minimizing his arguments, since he has already been at least 4 times more useful to Debian than you were during the last 8 years? I found a little bit hard to measure usefulness based on number of uploads and I don't think that this line of answer of minimizing somebody's contribution would improve the quality of the debate. Nothing against the argumentation, but it pretty much smells like ad-hominem. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpNPawACgkQCjAO0JDlykYUWgCg1Lqj8G3Ra+HcWutj7e2v8QAu MtIAnjRJDyggyiYq94iT5lEfG+nce5Tk =BLgo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Divulgação
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To debian-project: José is telling us that he couldn't find details regarding the use of banners and info about events and Debian, he wants to help Free Software by advertising the projects/tools and related events. I'm explaining to him what -project is about and pointing him to Brazilian mail lists. On 20-04-2009 02:55, José Henrique Ventura wrote: Bom me chamo José Henrique Ventura, estudo na Universidade Paulista - UNIP e curso Ciência da Computação 3º semestre. Nosso grupo CPDTI (Comunidade de Pesquisa de Tecnologia da informação) estamos com um projeto de um Portal de Tecnologia, e queremos colocar informações completas e ajudar na divulgação de algumas Distribuições Linux em nosso portal. Legal José. No site http://www.br.debian.org/intro/help não consegui localizar a informação a respeito de colocar Banners e informações sobre eventos e sobre SO Debian, gostaria de saber mais a respeito, e se existe essa opção de estar ajudando na divulgação do Software livre ! A debian-project é uma lista cujo idioma oficial é inglês, em futuros contatos não use o português. Você pode contatar a [1]debian-br para mais informações sobre a divulgação do Debian no Brasil. 1. http://listas.cipsga.org.br/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-br Você pode usar a espiral em seu site e adicionar informações tanto do site como do wiki, só crie os links apropriados para o site do Projeto Debian. Para mais detalhes, sugiro que usemos a debian-br. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknwp04ACgkQCjAO0JDlykaItACfQpDgnPJcI7jcvuPD6RgQU199 IKUAoL2yP8llmmGFhMjm1HI3+H5YAIDM =QyBf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Genericly-named debian.net domains for private use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08-04-2009 08:23, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Wed, 08 Apr 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote: + Bernd Zeimetz (Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:18:33 +0200): Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:00:46AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: Wouldn't it be just better to point those domains to the respective project-wide efforts? I'd appreciate opinions on the matter. AOL. Looks like the rule is quite simple too: for any $X.debian.org, $X.debian.net should point to $X.debian.org. (A reasonable exception could be www.debian.net containing a list of .debian.net names.) Implementing this rule would be very appreciated. Adding DSA to the loop to see if this is something they want to standardize or regulate. That single rule doesn't scale, there are non-abusive users of clashes right now (buildd, www), and it wouldn't solve the backports thing. That means we should try to push the changes in a similar way we adopt Policy changes, by convincing people or that we should try to write the rules and publish them (like DMUP) or vote them (via GR)? :-) I'm just wondering if we should discuss more about the rules or if DSA will propose rules for adoption with some migration period. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknc6DQACgkQCjAO0JDlyka+1QCffcRNvKP+r6+G138YzwnlmVRO hVoAoKensIh6cIjJ1S6UzxNcOOSDHViA =dEh7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07-04-2009 20:03, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 07 avril 2009 à 21:58 +0200, Luk Claes a écrit : I think having a very limited amount of tweets from people that do not write long blog posts is ok, though if it's not appreciated I'll remove my feed. Conceptually it’s not a bother, but it’s clear to me that Planet is not meant to handle such feeds correctly. Either Planet should be made to display them better, or another aggregation channel could be setup for microblogging. There is already debianproject both in identi.ca and twitter that would work as something like a microblogging planet and of course there is twitter.debian.net (which seems to not be proper feeding identi.ca for a few days now). I was wondering if maybe people would be interested in microplanet.debian.org ? :-) Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkncIdIACgkQCjAO0JDlykbZUACfXIc1v3BGwFXcvXtdabvNfOLR QNwAnRqB2YOMKBfXFjHGES+ypGaHfRWa =k3Uf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Duvida sobre Permissões de acesso e exec ução ( um bug ?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To debian-project: Rodrigo is trying to confirm a bug he may have found regarding permissions, he was doing some experimentation while learning how to work with chmod. I'm explaining to him what -project is about and pointing him to -user-portuguese. Rodrigo, A debian-project é uma lista cujo idioma oficial é o inglês e ela é voltada para assuntos organizacionais e administrativos referentes ao Projeto Debian. Por favor, para dúvidas técnicas em português, como a que você enviou, use a d-u-p: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese Certamente, na d-u-p será possível ajudá-lo e verificar melhor o que aconteceu. Eu sugiro que você também encaminhe um passo-a-passo com os comandos que executou para que outros possam testar/simular e ajudá-lo a resolver o problema. On 30-03-2009 21:02, Rodrigo wrote: Ola, meu nome é Rodrigo e sou usuário do Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, e descobri uma coisa que pode ser um erro do sistema ou não. [...] Muito obrigado pela atenção. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknRnsEACgkQCjAO0JDlykbTCQCfRhCDlU48FVFuw+oP7/NmRVNC 0CgAoM5nri0PzOvjHsgqwxzAhh7gbuDa =j2RC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24-02-2008 15:49, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Sam Hocevar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.02.24.1316 +0100]: I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian project (in a similar way to the Linux penguin or the GNU gnu) In the free software zoo, the Debian Swirl stands out like no other. Do we need to have a mascot? [1]OpenPuppets made a [2]genie for us. :-) 1. http://www.openpuppets.com/ 2. http://www.openpuppets.com/fondos/8c.png For the record, there is also the work made at Linux-Tan (no, I don't think it should be our mascot, but I do think it is a good art work). http://juzo-kun.deviantart.com/art/Linux-tan-Lineart-23093548 Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHwtZJCjAO0JDlykYRAkUZAKCYaleM2X8Haasp+qyrKuJgZvq1iACggqsw BVf2ksaRxTGfqqVFQKXpK1A= =0ARx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Maintainers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26-10-2007 09:13, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Bart Martens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, the voted GR must be respected, or we could as well stop voting GR's. As the three beta-testers have now been announced on -project, the DM project is now conforming with the letter of the GR, right? :) The fact that their names were quoted in the middle of the thread (that some people probably already marked-read do not really make it an announcement, right? :) Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHIkxwCjAO0JDlykYRAlisAKDBpFk6/Iwbxm6ZUaGMFdFTwnSZswCgr/pY 8p3gSkMeCh+NhTcEnemqw7E= =8jh/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for Partnership
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05-10-2007 15:05, pankaj.s wrote: Hi Please remove the request letter for partnership from your page http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/05/msg7.html . I would be highly thankful to you. Thanks and Regards Hi, Please, take a look at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ You will find the information of which address you should contact to get more information. Beware that removing this message from Debian list archives won't stop it from being cached by several other list archive web sites. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHBw8mCjAO0JDlykYRAmAsAKDNUqJVqpkLAzerTfvFiSMTCB8k2QCdGWR5 bdgVwYDXpDculQX6b4p1EW8= =eQrm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hosting offers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2007 06:36 PM, Josip Rodin wrote: [...] Maybe it would be worth setting up a separate (archived) mail alias @d.o and then tell people that they can send information there. That would be a start, at least. I had the impression that Hardware Donations Coordination was responsible for this, as per [1]Debian's Organization Infrastructure: Hardware Donations Coordination -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] member Benj. Mako Hill member Rob Bradford 1. http://www.debian.org/intro/organization There are some [2]instructions about the donations and also a [3]list of hardware wanted and it also mention that the e-mail alias points to the hardware donations delegate. 2. http://www.debian.org/donations#equipment_donations 3. http://www.debian.org/misc/hardware_wanted We could then tell people to send information there, it wouldn't be made public (because various details of hosting offers can be private), and they could tell us which kind of stuff they can take, how much of it, what's the long-term prospect of keeping it, who would take care of it on site, those kinds of things. [...] Perhaps it could be connected to the RT? Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZOSkCjAO0JDlykYRAlFKAJ4ttomqyFR/qLROyF6AcE8udG+KewCgqrnb hq03c8dByDAm2BqdrWHXZzw= =DXuW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposed name change for DWN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/02/2007 07:25 AM, Loïc Minier wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2007, Alexander Schmehl wrote: I notice that Debian Weekly News is still called Debian Weekly News, even though it is not published weekly. Perhaps we should consider changing the name to something like the Debian Newsletter? Or find more volunteers to contribute to it, so it can be send out on a weekly basis again? Which obviously didn't happen in the last 6 months? Plus, whatever the amount of contributions, DWN doesn't seem to go out when it reached n items, but simply at random, so why call it weekly indeed? Is not that simple. It need to hit n items on a pre-defined date to allow peer-review and preparation. Joey keeps a very high standard for DWN and it requires some time to learn how to work on it. Also, for years we had almost only one DWN editor, the process to split the load and share the tasks took some time and there are some definitions that were not clear and, IMHO, we helped to improve that (but better listen from Joey). Learn the timelines, quality control, how to contribute, what to contribute, the ideal DWN, number of paragraphs, size of it and so on, takes more then two weeks. I got really sad when after a lot of contributions Joey disappeared for a while without notice. That makes me stop contributing for a while, yesterday when I saw a new DWN, I start collecting items that I missed and I'm preparing them again to submit. Hopefully, I think we can start having DWN weekly again, so let's try. :-) Kind regards, PS: Of course, Joey == Martin Joey Schulze - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGOKaBCjAO0JDlykYRApsoAKCf3E4hbR48kdnFiFMXtIZHHSutcwCZAUYC sxGYNO06lQR4IA4v63YAM8M= =MvfV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shulze voting in Debian project
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2007 06:26 AM, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 10:27:27AM +0200, Jacques-Louis KREISS wrote: I would like to know how you manage Schulze voting for the Debian project. I heard you use a perl script for computing the result. Is this script publicly available somewhere ? I'm responsible for a non-profit and would like to implement Schulze voting inside my organization. Debian uses devotee which is maintained by Manoj Srivastava and can be found in his arch repository. [1] You can also look at the RubyVote library [2] which implements several election methods including condorcet with Cloneproof SSD (aka Schulze). [1] http://arch.debian.org/arch/private/srivasta/ [2] http://rubyvote.rubyforge.org/ Cheers, You can also take a look at CIVS (Condorcet Internet Voting Service): http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGJVYHCjAO0JDlykYRAk1cAJ9eEl12hz0ZiWG3ZzqVQF6zSDkIoQCgzdUZ 2SasUyLHhFkqqRbn4TxBTXY= =Q7Rx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Logo removed from the box
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/2007 10:48 PM, Kevin Mark wrote: Is the product or service related to an operating system? It's a software to manage photos. Would a person confuse their product with ours? Well, the person that reported the possible violation was unsure about the relation of Debian and GTSDigital, he wrote to ask about permission to use Debian Logo. My guess is that considering the confusion of Trademark and Copyright Laws, the reporter was trying to let us know about a possible violation, probably this was the interpretation of our logo being a registered trademark or protected material. Also, I have read from other DDs that our logo is easy to create using common graphics tools. Yes it is, a while ago somebody posted a step-by-step to recreate it. This time in special the colors and shape were identical and the GTSDigital was quickly to say that they don't want any problems. Anyway, just to let it clear, I did not contact GTSDigital, I just translated the original message from pt_BR to en_US, and for some unknown reason to me, GTSDigital people contacted us reporting the logo removal from their product. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGDrHNCjAO0JDlykYRAgu/AJ4vd8YmpwIJthol8ZVsciHgawhM6ACgrpG8 HE5Wmf9sqxu7IXWNsJGGLpc= =JPGt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Logo removed from the box (was: Re: Retirado o box do DEBIAN)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peterson (GTS Digital), a resposta em português está logo abaixo. To debian-project, (in en_US) On 03/30/2007 03:20 PM, GTS DIGITAL - Softwares para fotografia digital wrote: Writing in English Srs. Ja was removed the box of the Debian…. we ask for excuses, but nao we sabiamos that she was patented this box that we tinhamos used in our site… We will be disposicao to clarify the misunderstanding. Without more…. Ok, I will just make make some context. A while ago, we were [1]contacted about the use and licence of our logo, I [2]replied to the question. GTS Digital was using our logo on their products and with this message they are apologizing and telling us that the log was removed from their product. (Translation below). 1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/03/msg3.html 2. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/03/msg00022.html Writing in Portuguese Srs. Ja foi retirado a caixa do Debian pedimos desculpas, mas nao sabiamos que era patenteada essa caixa que tinhamos usado em nosso site... Estaremos a disposicao para esclarecer o mal entendido.. Sem mais I'm just translating it once again: Ladies and gentlemen, The Debian box was removed ... we apologize, but we didn't know that the box we used in our site was patented ... We are available to clarify the misunderstood... I'm just explaining to them a few things in Brazilian Portuguese about the Debian name and logo. I'm also saying thanks for them because they removed the logo and acked Debian relation with the swirl. No entanto, apenas pra deixar claro, não havia relação de patente sobre a caixa em si, apenas de marca registrada sobre o nome Debian e a relação que o logo da espiral (swirl) estabele com o Projeto. Equipe GTS DIGITAL O seu portal da fotografia digital www.gtsdigital.com.br Peterson, A marca Debian é registrada no Brasil e o logo é protegido em vários países do mundo. O ponto inicial era que o logotipo usado era muito similar ao do Debian (e ao que tudo indica era o mesmo). Nosso logotipo possui algumas restrições de uso como você pode ver em: http://www.debian.org/logos Agradecemos o cuidado de corrigir o mal entendido e agradecemos o contato para nos dar maiores informações e detalhes e nos deixar avisados sobre a mudança. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGDaHDCjAO0JDlykYRAieYAJ98swZm0kyx7INaaAdweBxPCwQURgCeJrPr BYZ93c4UFCZrJzbgl1YlXmY= =2e44 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Error in debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso (was: Re: Cd debian-31r5-ia64-netinst.iso com erro)
-1_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\x\xfsprogs\xfsprogs_2.6.20-1_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\x\xfonts-terminus\console-terminus_4.12-1_all.deb OK .\pool\main\b\base-files\base-files_3.1.2_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\b\base-passwd\base-passwd_3.5.9_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\b\bash\bash_2.05b-26_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\b\base-config\base-config_2.53.10.2_all.deb OK .\pool\main\b\bsdmainutils\bsdmainutils_6.0.17_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\b\base-installer\base-installer_1.13.4sarge1_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\b\baseconfig-udeb\baseconfig-udeb_1.02_all.udeb OK .\pool\main\b\brltty\brltty-udeb_3.4.1-4_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\b\bterm-unifont\bterm-unifont_0.011_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\b\bugreporter-udeb\bugreporter-udeb_1.02_all.udeb OK .\pool\main\f\findutils\findutils_4.1.20-6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\f\file-rc\file-rc_0.8.7_all.deb OK .\pool\main\f\fdutils\fdutils_5.4-20040228-1_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\f\fbset\fbset-udeb_2.1-16_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\f\file\file_4.12-1_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\f\file\libmagic1_4.12-1_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\f\fribidi\libfribidi0_0.10.4-6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\h\hostname\hostname_2.13_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\h\hdparm\hdparm-udeb_6.1-1_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\h\hotplug\hotplug_0.0.20040329-22_all.deb OK .\pool\main\r\readline4\libreadline4_4.3-11_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\r\rp-pppoe\pppoe_3.5-4_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\r\reiser4progs\mkreiser4-udeb_1.0.4-1_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\r\reiser4progs\reiser4progs-udeb_1.0.4-1_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\r\reiserfsprogs\mkreiserfs-udeb_3.6.19-1_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\r\reiserfsprogs\reiserfsprogs_3.6.19-1_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kbd\kbd_1.12-11_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kbd-chooser\kbd-chooser_1.10_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.4.27-ia64\kernel-image-2.4.27-3-itanium_2.4.27-10sarge5_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.4.27-ia64\kernel-image-2.4.27-3-itanium-smp_2.4.27-10sarge5_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.4.27-ia64\kernel-image-2.4.27-3-mckinley_2.4.27-10sarge5_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.4.27-ia64\kernel-image-2.4.27-3-mckinley-smp_2.4.27-10sarge5_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.4.27-ia64\kernel-image-2.4-itanium_2.4.27-10sarge5_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.4.27-ia64\kernel-image-2.4-itanium-smp_2.4.27-10sarge5_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.4.27-ia64\kernel-image-2.4-mckinley_2.4.27-10sarge5_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.4.27-ia64\kernel-image-2.4-mckinley-smp_2.4.27-10sarge5_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64\kernel-image-2.6.8-3-itanium_2.6.8-14sarge6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64\kernel-image-2.6.8-3-itanium-smp_2.6.8-14sarge6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64\kernel-image-2.6.8-3-mckinley_2.6.8-14sarge6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64\kernel-image-2.6.8-3-mckinley-smp_2.6.8-14sarge6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64\kernel-image-2.6-itanium_2.6.8-14sarge6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64\kernel-image-2.6-itanium-smp_2.6.8-14sarge6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64\kernel-image-2.6-mckinley_2.6.8-14sarge6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\k\kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64\kernel-image-2.6-mckinley-smp_2.6.8-14sarge6_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\libs\libsigc++-1.2\libsigc++-1.2-5c102_1.2.5-4_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\libp\libpcap\libpcap0.7_0.7.2-7_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\w\wget\wget_1.9.1-12_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\w\wireless-tools\libiw27-udeb_27-2_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\w\wireless-tools\wireless-tools-udeb_27-2_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\w\wireless-tools\wireless-tools_27-2_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\w\wireless-tools\libiw27_27-2_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\j\jfsutils\jfsutils-udeb_1.1.7-1_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\j\jfsutils\jfsutils_1.1.7-1_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\j\jfbterm\jfbterm_0.4.7-3_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\libd\libdebian-installer\libdebian-installer-extra4-udeb_0.29_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\libd\libdebian-installer\libdebian-installer4-udeb_0.29_ia64.udeb OK .\pool\main\libu\libusb\libusb-0.1-4_0.1.10a-9.sarge.1_ia64.deb OK .\pool\main\liba\libapt-pkg-perl\libapt-pkg-perl_0.1.13_ia64.deb OK - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFF7NQYCjAO0JDlykYRAjjaAKDNBvH5EPFYraojCdMJKtuPCawe6gCYykZP RCQ1rU3lMHz6Pe99OozxTg== =HL/1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Logo use/abuse: GTSDigital (was: Re: Copyright do Debian)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcelo, sua resposta está logo abaixo. Debian Project, Marcelo is asking if the Debian Logo is under GPL, because there is a site using out logo on a CD and Box for a product called GTS Digital, he also pointed to the site: http://www.gtsdigital.com.br/ Perhaps somebody from Debian Legal could advise about the above site/logo? It is a Brazilian WebSite, and I can work as a mediator if we need to contact them. The reason of why Marcelo is asking about the license is the fact that he wants to use our logo in his site to link to Debian Project. I'm explaining to him about the license change (not sure if it is already done) and also telling him that is ok to link in the way he want. On 03/01/2007 12:32 PM, Marcelo Insabralde wrote: Bom dia, Olá! :) Antes de mais nada, a debian-project é uma lista onde deve-se trocar mensagens em inglês. Esta resposta vai com cópia também para a debian-legal que cuida de aspectos do licenciamento dentro do Debian e para o Líder do Projeto Debian (DPL) que está envolvido com a troca de licença do logo do Debian. Gostaria de saber se o Logo do Debian está disponível sob a GPL, devido a um site estar usando o logo em CD e Box de seus produtos, pode ser verificado em http://www.gtsdigital.com.br/ onde uma suite de aplicativos para imagens está usando o referido logotipo. Eu alertei a debian-legal a respeito como você pode ver acima, vamos ver o que outros acham e talvez tenhamos que entrar em contato com eles, o logo do Debian não é licenciado sob a GPL. Você pode encontrar mais informações sobre a licença de uso aqui: http://www.debian.org/logos/index.pt.html Gostaria de um retorno sobre a licença do Logo, pois pretendo incluí-lo em meu site para usá-lo como link para o vosso site www.debian.org.br http://www.debian.org.br. Posso adiantar que não há problemas em usar Logotipo Debian de Uso Aberto para fazer referência ao Projeto Debian através de um link que é o que você está solicitando. ;) Desde já agradeço User Linux at 1999 Se você não tiver problemas para ler e escrever em inglês, sinta-se a vontade para contatar diretamente as listas envolvidas, se precisar de alguma ajuda com as traduções, você pode entrar em contato com a debian-l10n-portuguese: http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-portuguese Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF60LNCjAO0JDlykYRAj0XAJ9jvCHw0wcD5APNd32f4bFPNN1ztwCfYjcY QiuE+9sQO+ymp+DNq4oIrq0= =PbD1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WebSite the packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/02/2007 06:02 PM, Rodrigo Fabiano Rosa wrote: Hello, we are distro from Brazil basead in Debian and I would like which the program (software) is using in homepage for control the packages. If you are talking about packages.debian.org, then you should take a look at our [1]CVS, there you will find the scripts behind the website. 1. http://cvs.debian.org/packages/?root=webwml Regard's []'s Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyUDJCjAO0JDlykYRAtlFAJ0TalMXa+pAJYXhCpoSL5B7+0G/mwCghd2t 0CMTod7vwcp05dVO6/hEF1I= =2+Ep -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Social Committee proposal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/25/2007 04:11 PM, Josip Rodin wrote: Hi, This idea arose from a discussion on the -private mailing list. Andreas Tille, Gustavo Franco, Manoj Srivastava and Gunnar Wolf all commented fairly positively on a vague idea of having a social committee (soc-ctte), different from the technical committee (tech-ctte). I'm citing their names simply to avoid an issues with taking credit. While we are at the initial steps of discussing this idea, I would like to quote a nice blog entry (thanks to David Nusinow - -- aka gravity -- for the link). David quoted the blog entry a while ago, it is from a Gentoo Developer about some of situations in Gentoo, how they tried to deal with the different situations and how things evolved. There is also a nice followup in the comments. http://spyderous.livejournal.com/80869.html Please, do not look to this as something specific to a given distro or project, I'm also not trying to compare communities, what I'm trying to do is increase the information available for our decisions, because I _do_ think that we can learn a lot from history, specially from similar experiences and scenarios, in order to achieve our goals. This message has no intention to say go ahead, do that or stop right now, it will blow our toilets. :-) Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFuXJCCjAO0JDlykYRAtPJAJ0R5Tx3WW0HiWZAhIb+9bDpvoZs4wCdFp2p Vl5PaI8edHuvCre8taUeFWg= =Zfwb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DebianTimes launched
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/03/2006 05:38 PM, Andreas Barth wrote: * Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060803 22:02]: I'd prefer keeping PlanetDebian pure as a aggregator of personal blogs. Hm, ok. I can see your point, but I disagree (but of course, I'm biased). Anyways, if more DDs feel your way, I will remove DebianTimes. (DWN was removed due to flooding planet, not for it's not a personal blog, btw.) Andreas, just one extra point for consideration. If you keep DebianTimes as part of Planet Debian, maybe you will not find a real response from the users, they can keep following only Planet Debian and *maybe* you will not find out the impact of DebianTimes in the audience. I don't have a strong preference, I will keep reading both of them, but maybe you would have a better answer as an experiment if you try it without feeding Planet Debian. Just my two cents. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE0q7gCjAO0JDlykYRAmKvAKCaRnPe97ZSLmloTM/ZxYfhZBfsxACgiK4N evj/fpFALRVnIsKPlsfjQYY= =JkTJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian's birthday, 16th of august
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/2006 11:08 AM, José Parrella wrote: Geert Stappers escribió: I hope that the idea gets a world-wide follow-up. 11 cities in Venezuela will celebrate Debian's Anniversary with local events featuring advanced talks about Debian applications (i.e. Debian in Mainframes) and Debian development, as well as traditional exorcisation of desktops and laptops with other operating systems. We've been working in the Wiki [1], however all the information is in spanish. Jose [1] http://wiki.debian.org/debiandayVenezuela/ At least four cities in Brazil will celebrate the Debian Day. http://wiki.debian.org/debiandayBrasil (Brazilian Portuguese only -- and not up-to-date yet) Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEzUiGCjAO0JDlykYRAsUQAKDO476o2/rAu3JhMvNW7Tvx9MmdDACfSZEH EWKNChqZ8L092wJYrLoCexA= =QyIP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Branding for Debian derivatives -- Debian Distilled
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/29/2006 06:13 AM, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au Okay, so this is just my idea. Add grains of salt to taste, etc. The idea is to take the Debian official use logo [0] which we've never really made much use of, and declare it the logo for derivatives instead. Add the word distilled [1] underneath, and you could describe a derivative something like this: I'm not much for co-opting the bottle logo like this. True, it is seldom used, but some people do know what it is currently supposed to mean, and it will create confusion to start using it for something completely opposite. How about someting like http://henning.makholm.net/debian/debianbased.png which shows Debian rolling out the red carpet for derivates? :-) IMHO, I also don't like the idea to use the bottle in that case. I really like the idea from Julien BLACHE about a Debian Powered Logo, he proposed it in -project a while ago: http://people.debian.org/~jblache/debian-powered-1.png http://people.debian.org/~jblache/debian-powered-2.png http://people.debian.org/~jblache/debian-powered-2_open.png http://people.debian.org/~jblache/debian-derived-1.png Originally suggested in a similar thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/06/msg00329.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/07/msg5.html Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEy8PbCjAO0JDlykYRAtsRAKCOeZefEm6ESzIBVAF/jmDaXcyoBwCeIpMp ZtW/oHiUCBobMcDEmZy4r0Y= =MfKz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Vendors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2006 08:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was wondering if you would kindly add our website to your United Kingdom CD vendor list. Hi, you should send your message to debian-www. I'm copying them, please wait a few days until we check and add you site to our CD Vendors page. Vendor: Linux Disks URL: http://www.linuxdisks.co.uk URL for Debian Page: http://linuxdisks.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=7 Allows Contribution to Debian: No Country: United Kingdom Ship International: No email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD Type: Official CD DVD Type: Official DVD Architectures: i386 I would really appreciate it if you added us and feel that this will help distribute debian to users in the UK. Regards, Ian Holloway Linux Disks Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEsoquCjAO0JDlykYRAlLMAKDIueY5yoPhitEJMHFEeklPvAxUMQCcCEcg rbRlipfyfgq+B7eE8qLcPr0= =FL9B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Donations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/07/2006 04:20 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 07:27:03AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: I don't know the status of holdings in Australia and Brazil. Are they retained profits from events? DebConf6 seemed to be privately run for debian, supported by SPI. I assumed that any surplus will be donated to debian, but I don't know. Brazil's was retained profits from DC4; it was unrealistic to bring the money back out of the country, so AIUI it was instead used as the seed for a local Debian presence. It's hard to get money from outside Brazil or to send money outside Brazil. Some Brazilian Debian Developers and some Debian volunteers are working to encourage Brazilian People to donate to Debian in Brazil, using the same account that we have for DC4. The idea is to keep Debian's account in Brazil with money, it makes easier to fund Debian Developers for Debconf and other events and also helps to organize Debian presence in big events like FISL and Linux World (I need to prepare both reports, sorry for the delay). [1]ASL (Associacao Software Livre), takes care of the money, is a non-profit organization (also a NGO), they have a bank account only for Debian and, periodically, the send reports about Debian money to people in charge of that (I know they do but I don't know who gets the report, probably SPI). 1.http://associacao.softwarelivre.org (be aware: pt_BR web site) I hope that we can still encourage people to make donations to Debian using ASL, I don't know if someday this money can be routed to outside Brazil, but so far, it can help Debian in Brazil. :-) Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEhveLCjAO0JDlykYRAv6KAJ0UW0Zi0i++OoLqahuHfnFzmYDnwACfd1Kc afX2SNkAK4ca2htqgAiO+lo= =UDFw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: irc.debian.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/2006 06:42 PM, Noèl Köthe wrote: Am Sonntag, den 30.04.2006, 19:34 +0100 schrieb Steve McIntyre: I've heard it suggested by a variety of people that we should move the official irc.debian.org alias away from freenode to oftc. I can see that more and more of my own Debian IRC discussions are on oftc, to the extent that I'm (currently) not on any freenode channels at all. oftc support ssl connections (ircs.oftc.net:) so the secret nickserv and chanserv passwords wouldn't get sniffed via debconf6 wlan.:) Just to add a reference and a seconded. I checked with Don Armstrong about SSL support in FreeNode and OFTC (because of debconf6 sniffers) and at the moment FreeNode does [1]not support SSL. It is a good argument to move irc.d.o to OFTC (and maybe add ircs.d.o). 1.http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#sslaccess Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEZ3/wCjAO0JDlykYRAt6nAJ49GQn5vGbT9h757kL5VILEMQ7aRwCffawm 3CsDmJ9tYE+iz4hNVqAJ+Qw= =UR+/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Yann, The debian-project is a maillist focused on discussion about the Debian Project. For technical doubts and support questions you should use [EMAIL PROTECTED] You will also find support lists in other languages, just check http://lists.debian.org In order to help you in advance I add a couple of tips below. On 05/12/2006 05:18 PM, Yann Desponds wrote: Hello, I tried to install differents distibution of linux but without success... I always have a problem during installation with my graphic card. I saw that many people have the same problem with the xserver and this nv driver. If you can, use free (as in speech) drivers. :) Wouldn't be better to install the xserver with the default parameter vesa and then to install the good driver or modifie xserver? When you send your message do debian-user, try to add more informartion about which version of Debian are you running, which is the model of your graphic card, how you X is configured and other relevant information. Because I think the automatic detection of graphic card is not the good solution... Thanks for your reading You are welcome, good luck. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEZhasCjAO0JDlykYRAm9kAJ4qLJyC+d5/+HNa+YMRvo//BDz5dwCdFoch kuAp6vV9dHoUhvflQ6xxACg= =UGut -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wiki.debian.org: Who's maintaining it
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/21/2006 08:45 AM, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 20 April 2006 08:29, Martin Schulze wrote: Technically the wiki is operated by debian-admin. For serious problems, please drop debian-admin a note. Patches in coordination with the python moin wiki maintainer are welcome. Patches that will be overwritten when a new version gets installed are problematic, though. Thanks, but who is coordinating the wiki as a whole? Someone should take responsibility for dealing with questions/issues with the wiki in general, not only its technical side. Frans, -project, IMHO, choosing #2 (create a pseudo package) sounds like the way to go. But I believe we should join web efforts, along with the suggestion of Kevin Mark: they are 2 different web sites, have different software running on them, they should have distinct pseudo package name aka #2. Would it make sense to create a single list of WWW, wiki and any other possible websites that are officially part of debian? if so, then I guess maybe call it 'debian-websites' and have any www and wiki bugs go there? -- Kevin Mark IMHO, having some kind of web team to get all the web related stuff would be the way to go. We could have different pseudo-packages but we have only one umbrella list to take care of very related subjects. I don't know which is the best move: - Consider the -www the official web maillist * Have to check with actual subscribers if they want that - Create a new list (-web or -websites) * Need to check how to interact with -www and possible future web related stuff. I would like to see the first choice, expanding the audience of - -www to take care of all web stuff, creating pseudo-packages and creating some information to know whom to contact according to the situation. A lot of people contact -www when packages.d.o has problems, we could also integrate bugs.d.o and other Debian websites. :) Hope it helps, kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEWrmnCjAO0JDlykYRAmKfAJ42jocgDwJyFkOK0prjJ8RqW1HtWQCeOeIo e1SO8JGOv+Rb2yJHIbRgrGg= =hJRp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: irc.debian.org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/02/2006 12:40 PM, Cord Beermann wrote: Hallo! Du (Paul Johnson) hast geschrieben: Why not move it to Jabber? More people use and know what Jabber is these days than IRC. Jabber doesn't have any useable non-graphic Clients. for the usual one to one communication it might be ok, but for groupchat (and thats what most people do on IRC it simply sucks. Hmmm... there is always bitlbee. :) It is not a Jabber client, but allows someone to use any irc client to connect to IM networks (like Jabber, GTalk, ICQ). And BTW, switch to Jabber does not determines where irc.debian.org should point to (unless we drop it, which is non-sense). IMHO, having Jabber is another point and discussing it should be dropped on this thread. Maybe, create a wiki page with reasons to move and to not move could help us to check the points (pros and cons) and decide which is better for our users and, of course, for us. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEWVw3CjAO0JDlykYRAtlLAKDGLWXdY6Whnh0m0xzozqMkeyOBKgCeLsZD Bj8FFab4cFFnKkzFzlq3hKc= =ryXr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Baixando Debian via Jigdo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -project, Sorry for the portuguese, Roberto is asking about how he can fix some images that are with incorrect MD5 but he doesn't want to download everything again. I'm pointing him to d-user-portuguese and explaining what -project is about. On 04/12/2006 05:33 AM, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 04:07:47PM -0300, Roberto-cpd wrote: Baixei as imagens .iso do site ftp://linorg.usp.br/iso/debian aparentemente sem problemas. As imagens 7 e 8 est?o como .iso.tmp e vou tentar recuperar atraves do cygwim + rsync. As imagens 1,5 e 9 est?o com o md5sum incorretos, como devo proceder para corrigir as imagens sem perder os mb's j? baixados ?? Roberto, a debian-project é uma lista em inglês, voltada para assuntos ligados ao Projeto Debian. Use a debian-user-portuguese para dúvidas técnicas e suporte. uso listo debian-user-portuguese (http://lists.debian.org/). -Kev Thanks Kevin. (use a lista debian-user-portuguese). :) Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPRHGCjAO0JDlykYRAo0LAJsG+fo7yV22hvmM4zFbkfluocL53QCgh013 3HjzlAxFKliWxyTrmuO/VBQ= =RLT8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poll: how should Debian derivatives identify their packages?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/2006 07:43 AM, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2006-01-26, Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The poll can only be submitted by DD's, and results will be non-anonymous and published immediately. Shouldn't non-DD-packagers be heard too ? As Jeroen said it is a little bit hard to change devotee behaviour. Anyway, I believe that is possible to collect non-DD-packagers votes signed by their sponsors and instead of automatically parse it with devotee, use devotee by hand to create tally sheet and a separate results file. Probably some hack is needed in the sense of avoid votes being overlapped because of the same signature. And we also need to point out who is the voter, instead of showing only the DD. I don't know if it is a good idea to run it in a more informal way, which means, get the ballots signed by DDs, don't parse it with devotee, parse with some devotee-changed or another script to prepare a special tally and finally using devotee to just prepare the Schwartz Set and the graphics. Could be an extra information to the poll. I did a similar approach for a Debian User Group, votes were made via web, the scripts builds a tally sheet and then I use devotee to prepare the results. Hope it helps, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD2OTeCjAO0JDlykYRAlD7AJ47jyzZx3MY+vPbQ1NjExUb5+zbZACeJwh/ 9mjB7ARNtg9lNsKjkSKezGg= =BH3l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: Deu no Jornal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/2006 06:41 PM, Pesquisa Digital wrote: Deu em O Debate. Janeiro de 2003. www.pesquisadigital.com http://www.pesquisadigital.com Óleo de fritura do McDonald's vira combustível O combustível está sendo obtido a partir do óleo usado nas frituras da rede de lanchonetes. [...] Ok, it is a news (probably spam) about trucks that are going to do an experimental test with Mc'Donalds vegetal oil used to fry food, the used oil will serve as fuel. :-) Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDz7EoCjAO0JDlykYRApsEAJ9g6jCCudZSJxAv1qSM9MOluc8cbwCfd8S0 Ddnqol3/Fh2M3oX5pPGX5O4= =C7CS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cds da Distro.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To -project: Fábio is telling us that he is starting using Linux and everybody is recommending Debian. He wants to know if we can send to him some CDs like Ubuntu does. I'm explaining to him that we don't send CDs and poiting him to the CD pages (and also CD vendors). I'm also explaining what is the list about. On 12/29/2005 12:02 AM, Fábio Marassatto wrote: Olá... Oi Fábio! Antes de mais nada, a lista debian-project é voltada para discussões sobre o projeto e a língua que deve ser utilizada é o inglês. :) Estou começando a usar Linux, e todos me recomendam usar o Debian. Debian é sem dúvida uma excelente recomendação! Gostaria de saber se assim como o Ubuntu, vcs poderiam me enviar uma copia da distribuição Debian. Infelizmente, o Projeto Debian não envia CDs, mas você pode consultar a página de [1]download para obter uma imagem ISO ou então verificar nossa [2]lista de vendedores para adquirir um CD. 1.http://www.debian.org/CD/ 2.http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ Muito Obrigado. De nada. Espero ter ajudado. - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDs4qKCjAO0JDlykYRAtkqAKCwCl9N9FrdBnXU6AcQ30dNSaL6hgCfe1w7 ohEvilv4VmV8wpEQUzLTjII= =d/W7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LINUX Debian - Entrar no Modo Grafico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 To debian-project: Rogério is asking help with his SuSE. I'm explaining to him what debian-project is about. :) On 11/09/2005 06:03 PM, Rogério Carlos Mazoco - Rogério wrote: Olá Coloquei uma configuração de video e deu um erro, e ja foi direto para o modo grafico, meu Linux é o SUSE, e gostaria de saber qual o comando devo digitar. Se alguém puder me ajudar ficarei muito agradecido. Rogério, a lista debian-project é voltada para discussões sobre o Projeto Debian e deve-se utilizar o inglês. A lista indicada para suporte em Português é a debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org mas ela é voltada para dúvida em sistema Debian. Para o caso de sistema SuSE, você deveria procurar no site da sua distribuição ou em listas que tenham esse enfoque. Abraço e sinto não poder ajudá-lo mais. - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDc6pbCjAO0JDlykYRAzwsAKCQDbpbj+WgNrXr8xMxYqTNMTGkVACbBFIQ oWsEBXAv3nK1NEuajSexVoY= =NtwC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian download
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/22/2005 11:06 PM, G.L. Stibbins wrote: On your website,www.debian.org http://www.debian.org, under Getting Debian on left side of page,found Getting Debian. There I found the CD ISO Images and clicked.When that opened found Download a Minimal Bootable CD Image. Problem is I can't get to place to download this.My computer at work has a burner,so I can download there and put on CD, and bring home for my laptop and tower.If I can get this downloaded and it seems to work ok,then I make a donation.Have used debian and I prefer it.Help !! Thanks Sorry, I really don't understand what is exactly your problem, anyway, debian-project is a list to discuss itens related to how Debian is organized and subjects that are related to the Debian Project. For a support list, you should try: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ Hope it helps. Kind regards, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDXtbpCjAO0JDlykYRAgs6AKCV+G71J9Qg+r7bO+poZJLYLPxxdACfctEp wJhpDpVBGK/A9FQcQWRgFQ0= =nV2d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: show taruira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi -project, I don't know why but Lia is asking information about some show with 'taruira trio' that is going to happen on September 30. I'm explain to her what -project is about. :) On 09/29/2005 12:06 PM, Lia Marzullo wrote: Por Favor, eu gostaria de saber onde e que horas vai ser o show de amanha 30/09 do taruira trio. Lia, A lista debian-project é em inglês e para discutir assunto do Projeto Debian, acredito que tenha sido um engano pois não há relação com o taruira trio. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDPCNLCjAO0JDlykYRAtHfAJ9X0tIFwUPmLGHQfnSOF+3XXeGPygCgtE2M PDWrA3EwZN5EIBzL0x/m1Fs= =S5wM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Curso de HP12C
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To debian-project: Marcos is asking information about classes to HP12c (the calculator), I'm explaining to him what debian-project is about. :) On 09/19/2005 05:22 PM, Marcos Goncalves wrote: Boa tarde, Gostaria de obter mais informações p/ o curso da HP12C. Isto é possível?? Olá Marcos, A lista debian-project tem como tema central a discussão sobre o Projeto Debian, é uma lista em inglês e não há relação com cursos sobre a HP12c. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDLy3SCjAO0JDlykYRAkuZAKCY4isIWVx4IA1MqyEGdgZnUGxglQCfaYoB pvW/xCNFxvkcD89zRzvibow= =7erP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modulo de Som
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 debian-project, Renato is asking about a sound problem with his thinkpad, I'm pointing him to debian-user-portuguese. Renato *bone* wrote: :: Ola, meu nome Renato Ol Renato. :: Tenho um thinkpa 600 da ibm.. :: ja instalei o Debian nele e algumas outras distros.. :: o prob.. que sobe o modulo de som :: ja dei um lspci para ver o dispositovo mas aparece :: nada sobre ele! :: Bom se alguem pode me ajudar! A lista debian-project voltada para discutir os assuntos relacionados ao Projeto Debian e a lngua a ser utilizada o ingls. Para obter suporte e ajuda, utilize a [1]d-u-p (debian-user-portuguese). Abrao, [1]http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese - -- // // Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] // GUD-PR / DUG-PR || http://www.debian-pr.org // GUD-BR / DUG-BR || http://www.debian-br.org // Debian Project || http://www.debian.org/ // -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCr5oDCjAO0JDlykYRAnagAJ4lQFH5Kv3FZLwQ9Z4wodWOj+V47gCgyDha YGMZRvHUQ8ZWC6Oo0DwmtFA= =O/5i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Sarge
Hi, It is a Portuguese Brazilian question, the guy is asking when the next version of Debian will be released, I'm answering the usual... when it gets ready!. :-) Flávio de Oliveira Barros wrote: :: Quando será lançado essa versão do Debian ? Olá Flávio, a lista do debian-project é uma lista em inglês. Não há previsão nem datas para o lançamento da próxima versão do Debian (Sarge - 3.1), o que dizemos é que será lançado quando ficar pronto! :o) Para listas em português você pode utilizar a debian-user-portuguese em lists.debian.org ou a debian-br em listas.cipsga.org.br Um abraço, -- // // Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] // GUD-PR / DUG-PR || http://www.debian-pr.org // GUD-BR / DUG-BR || http://www.debian-br.org // Debian Project || http://www.debian.org/ //
Re: Debian Hardened project (question about use of the Debian trademark)
Hi, Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: :: [...] :: The idea (i repeat) is now that the packages :: should be recompiled, passed to a temporal pool, :: tested, and then moved to the 'main' pool, :: without creating branches/sub-trees/brands/etc, :: and just making all the packages, hardened, :: without making interferences or making them for :: unstable. I was on Alioth and on 2004.09.14, a new project called Debian: Secure by Default, was launched. If you check the site and the mission statement, it looks like pretty much with you pourpose. I'm just highlight this because in security area we have to work together and split forces and/or efforts is a total waste of time. Considering this, Debian Hardened is in someway related with Debian Secure by Default? Could both project join forces? Work together and do the best for Debian? :) Best regards, -- // // Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.cathedrallabs.org / // GUD-PR / DUG-PR || http://www.debian-pr.org // GUD-BR / DUG-BR || http://www.debian-br.org // Debian Project || http://www.debian.org/ //
Re: Debian Hardened project (question about use of the Debiantrademark)
Gunnar Wolf wrote: :: I would go a bit further: I am not convinced the :: project name's choice was quite adequate. The :: slogan 'secure by default' was made by the OpenBSD :: team mainly to assert they ship with the minimum :: active services possible to have a working, useful, :: usable system. This means, they have shut down :: default ports, leaving only ssh on for a standard :: system install. And we are more or less at the :: same level of security by default. Ok, but if you check the site[1] of Debian Secure by Default, you are going to see that they are proposing the use of PaX and other security related stuff, in a similar way of Lorenzo (Debian Hardened). :: What Lorenzo is proposing is adding to Debian the :: needed features to have a system in which each of :: the binaries are more secure. That is not the :: meaning of the 'secure by default' slogan. What I proposed in the previous message is to join efforts. I believe it is the most logical thing to do, work together to provide even more security in Debian. :) :: Besides, I would think using that slogan would :: be jumping on someone's else train. It was not :: our idea, and although we implement it, I'd :: rather call it another way. Or not call it at :: all, as if it were such a breakthrough by now. Let's call it: Debian Dirty Harry! :-) Just kidding, at this moment I'm more concerned with the idea of don't split our forces. I know the importance of slogan and project name, and I'm certain that *working together* we can achieve a great name and a fantastic slogan! Cheers, -- // // Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.cathedrallabs.org / // GUD-PR / DUG-PR || http://www.debian-pr.org // GUD-BR / DUG-BR || http://www.debian-br.org // Debian Project || http://www.debian.org/ //
Re: Debian Hardened project (question about use of the Debian trademark)
Hi Lorenzo, Martin, lists, Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: :: Hi Martin, :: El mar, 14-09-2004 a las 17:40, Martin Michlmayr escribió: * Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-09-08 16:26]: :: I want to know if i can use the trademark Debian on :: the name of a project that i've started , Debian :: Hardened which i want to see as an official Debian :: sup-project. I personally feel that this name has the same problems that Trusted Debian has - it suggests that normal Debian is not secure. In any case, I think you should post your question to debian-project rather than -legal since -project is more appropriate and might get more feedback. :: A normal Debian is secure, depending on how the :: sysadmin works with the packages and how he confgiures :: them. Trully. A few weeks ago, a friend of mine was talking to our Debian User Group and he told that you can setup your system in a way that it could be more secure than OpenBSD. :) I'm not here to talk about which system is the most secure, but of course, that are lot of things to consider and fine tunning when we talk about security. :: But, if you have, for example, ProPolice/SSP compiled :: packages, there wouldn't be anyway to exploit a buffer :: overflow condition in the package. :: That's the same with kernel packages...you can choose :: a better secure kernel or a simple one, the difference :: is just what you want to choose: secure or not secure :: as the other... Ok! Why I quote my friend? Because he is starting a project similar with Debian Hardened. :: Security stays OK until somebody breaks it, and you :: can't predict when it will happen (and also you can't :: predict how it will happen!). Trully. :) :: I want to see Debian Hardened as an official Debian :: subproject, it's not a better, more secure :: un-official version of Debian, it's just a hardened :: tree of official Debian packafes for official Debian :: versions! Thinking on my friend's project and in Debian Hardened, I was wondering if we could joing Debian Security and develop all this stuff there? I can say that the idea of my friend is create a kind of documentation, comparing security tools, creating benchmarks, making tests and packages, with the objective of making Sys/Net Admin life easier (and more secure). In the last months I'm trying to understand how can a person joing the Debian Security Team and help them on packages and machines, I'm not sure, but if I understand the Lorenzo idea, we can work together doing a kind of auditing and developing packages, maybe we should put it in another tree like proposed-security or security-enhanced., in manner that doesn't sounds like debian is insecure or less secure. Doing this, we have a sub project with focus on Security, official. Well, it is just a thought! :) Best Regards, -- // // Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.cathedrallabs.org / // GUD-PR / DUG-PR || http://www.debian-pr.org // GUD-BR / DUG-BR || http://www.debian-br.org // Debian Project || http://www.debian.org/ //
Re: Suporte
This is a message written in Brazilian Portuguese! :o) Below, a quick translation and answer. Yzaac Goncalves da Silva wrote: :: Boa tarde!!.. :: Good afternoon!!.. Hi! :) eu gostaria de saber se o debian possui e se possuir quais os aplicativos envolvendo geoprocessamanto que estão disponiveis free? :: I would like to know if debian has and if has :: which applications related with geoprocessing are :: available in free? I've seen some messages about packaging TerraLib and MapServer, but it is an ITP, I'm not certainly about what exactly you are looking for... Desde já agradeço :: Thanks in advance. You are welcome. Remember that Debian-Projet is English list! :) Try debian-user-portuguese next time. -- // // Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.cathedrallabs.org / // GUD-PR / DUG-PR || http://www.debian-pr.org // GUD-BR / DUG-BR || http://www.debian-br.org // Debian Project || http://www.debian.org/ //
