Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?
Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: I was wondering if maybe people would be interested in microplanet.debian.org ? moon.debian.org Or, perhaps, dwarfplanet.debian.org -- John H. Robinson, IV jaq...@debian.org http WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, sbih.org ( )(:[ as apparently my cats have learned how to type. spiders.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: The Unofficial (and Very Simple) Lenny GR: call for votes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To: debian-project@lists.debian.org, debian-v...@lists.debian.org Date: 2008-12-15T20:59:50+ Adeodato Sim?? wrote: This is an unofficial vote, but at least it will be easy to vote in. If FD wins in the official one, and depending on the participation on both, it may also give us a good approximation about what the developers think with respect to releasing Lenny. I support the right or priviledge of a researcher to run a poll on the topic of their choosing. I further support the right or priviledge of a Debian Developer to run a poll on a topic associatied with Debian. I support this specific poll. Keep up the work. - -- John H. Robinson, IV jaq...@debian.org http WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, sbih.org ()(:[ as apparently my cats have learned how to type. spiders.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklGxh8ACgkQrelPZQd5nnRyRQCfSk8lPFXWWCiXUL4/ZdnXGafE dKcAn03YZ99mgQO0wzoh4aKJkvANdwlf =FkYq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian and non-free
Michael Banck wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 08:24:52AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Non-free is for GNU documentation. I think we should consider (post-lenny) splitting up non-free in a couple of sub-categories. Personally, I'd prefer fsf-free, but non-free-docs would be just as good, besides non-free-firmware and non-free for the rest. I like this idea, but without mentioning FSF directly. More entities than just the FSF use the GNU FDL for licensing. non-free-docs non-free-firmware non-free It would be nice if non-free was a simple umbrella for non-free-*. Possibly non-free/documentation and non-free/firmware? While the decision of what is firmware, documentation, or other should be policy-guided, it would be left to the developer to decide which category best applied. -- John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] http WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, sbih.org ( )(:[ as apparently my cats have learned how to type. spiders.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: message from Sven Luther
Robert Millan wrote: Sven Luther requested me to forward a message to this list for him. I have no problem with you forwarding a message. I would caution you that it is likely you would be held responsible and liable for the content, but if it breaks no (un)written rules, you should be okay. NB: I have not followed the Sven saga, though I have sampled a bit at some of the threads. -- John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] http WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, sbih.org ( )(:[ as apparently my cats have learned how to type. spiders.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Private copies of list replies (Was: Re: buildd and experimental)
Brian M. Carlson wrote: Mutt has several different reply options, some of them may be more appropriate than others. Anyway, it does not matter: the Debian Mailing List Code of Conduct *explicitly* says: When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be copied. As the sender, it is your job to comply with that, not mine as the recipient[0]. As the sender, it is your job to communicate this effectively. Relying upon headers that you are not in your control over is a poor way to attempt to communicate this. Majordomo understood this, and had all mailing list commands be set in the *body*, the only part that was under control of the sender. If you use a header that is commonly not seen by a mailer, such as X-Please: cc me that will similarly probably end in dissapointment. In the signature would probably be poor, as the lowlighting would hide it, and who really reads the signatures, anyway? The best place is probably right before the signature. A simple one line things: Please cc me, I am not subscribed to the list. I speak from my own personal experience. I keep my mailer set to show me no headers whatsoever. I get the information I need most of the time from the index. This includes From:, Subject:, and Date:. That is it. When I did have my mailer show me headers, that was all I had it show anyway. I never look at X- headers, nor *Spam* headers. They are completely uninteresting. I will happily comply with wishes, but they have to be communicated in a way I can understand. I don't think I am alone in this, either. -- John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] http WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, sbih.org ( )(:[ as apparently my cats have learned how to type. spiders.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poll results: User views on the FDL issue
debian-user dropped, because I don't read that list. Marty wrote: I accept this vote regarding Free Software, but I don't accept your implicit re-definition of the word software to include documentation. No one is redefining documentation, nor software. This is very simple: software is the logical bits. Documentation is the paper that you hold in your hand. This is why the GFDL is a poor *software* license, because it applies to paper. Sometimes, those books get translated to a software form. Sometimes, software gets translated to a document form. Remember when cryptographic software was not allowed to be exported from the USA? Software (PGP in specific) was translated into documentation, exported (legally!) then re-translated into software. Use the GFDL to license your documentation. Use the GPL to license the software translation of your documentation. If Debian explicitly states for licensing purposes, that software and documentation are considered equivalent, and that the same definition of free must be applied to both, then that's a different matter and it would be easier to accept. We don't because we don't distribute documentation. We distribute software. But I haven't seen that explicit claim ANYWHERE, and your statement that whether it's software or not is irrelevant, combined with your reference to this vote about software only begs the question. There is no need to. That is like asking us to say that we demand open licenses on the bicycles we distribute. We don't distribute them. We only distribute software. Nothing else. It *is* that simple. -- John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] http WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, sbih.org ( )(:[ as apparently my cats have learned how to type. spiders.html pgpcoLFMu7WWy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Google ads on debian.org
Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: I received the following message from someone at Google: Google is interested in advertising on debian.org. I realize your site currently isn't running any advertising, however what we're proposing is much different, and complimentary to your sites goal. Normally, I reply to advertising requests on debian.org with a polite no. However, given that google ads are widely considered different to normal ads, and might even enhance a web site, I thought I'd ask on -project to see what other people think. I would voice my objection to it. Do we really need the revenue stream? Do we need to look like every other starving .com site? I really think that having a google ad on our site would give the entirely wrong impression to a visitor. That stated, I am willing to listen to what they have, especially since they say it is different and complimentary to our site goals. -- John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] http WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above, sbih.org ( )(:[ as apparently my cats have learned how to type. spiders.html pgpaaIUAZ2pW6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#210879: constitution.txt: fractured developers
Andrew Suffield wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 03:21:46PM -0400, Alfie Costa wrote: Integer has more than one meaning Only if you're an idiot. Integer has precisely one meaning, and it is a synonym of whole number. The set of integers is the union of the set of natural numbers and the set composed by subtracting every natural number from zero. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/WholeNumber.html has some interesting things to say about whole numbers vs natural numbers vs th respect to integers, and provides references. and, ``integer'' like any _english_ (or american, take your pick) word, can have multiple meanings. sometimes with respect to technical usage, sometimes with respect to local convention. in order to communicate, we need to ensure that our symbols carry the same message in each recipient. oft-times, we allow dictionaries to define the scope of our symbols. as we can see, dictionaries are like standards: there are so many to choose from (apologies to David J. Alsberg) -john
Re: OpenSSL
David Moreno Garza wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 06:01, magness wrote: Bonjour, J'ai lu que des chercheurs suisses avaient réussi à casser SSL, et que la nouvelle version d'OpenSSL (0.9.7a) intègrait un remède. Un paquet Debian intégrant cette nouvelle version est-elle en cours ? Merci d'avance, AGRR! You damn no english speakers. i agree with the sentiment, if not the expression. i understand a non-native english speaking person posting to the list a newbieish question. what i would like to see is when a person responds, that they translate the original question and response into english. this way us unilingual people don't get left out altogether :( -john
