Re: Micros*ft deal
El jue, 21-06-2007 a las 21:40 +0200, Robert Millan escribió: I believe our silence says it all, no? If they want to donate us money for no 'carte blanche' back good, Their donations are welcome, their deals aren't. In fact, we could even lose our permission to use GPLv3 software if we did that. otherwise I don't think it's worth write a PR and help them spread their FUD, IMHO. On the contrary; the objective would be to dismiss their FUD. The basic problem is that since GPLv3 has been yet released, we are releasing de-facto GPLv3 software, in every piece licensed as GPL v2 or any later. I can be using a ig chunk of Debian as GPLv3, and nobody can dismiss this right now. -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody release notes: is obsoleted by sarge now.
El jue, 20-10-2005 a las 21:32 +0200, Adrian von Bidder escribió: On Thursday 20 October 2005 04.36, Horms wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 07:34:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the 2.2 is written here http://www.us.debian.org/releases/potato/ the following : Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 has been obsoleted by Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (woody). Security updates are discontinued as of June 30th, 2003. The same is not written for the 3.0 release that is declared osbolete like the 2.2. [...] Yes. This should probably be mentioned on that page, [...] /me points to http://bugs.debian.org/323770 which even includes a patch and mentions the situation wrt security updates. (Yeah, I forgot to tag it when I filed the bug, but then the mail is short enough that somebody on d-www might have noticed the patch...) Can all DD commit to www? I didn't try, 'cause I don't usually just mess with others' content (I don't follow -www at all.) No, only if you are in webwml group. You should CC -www pointing to this, if you want to. -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Debian 11th birthday
Hi, Today, 16th August is Debian 11th Birthday. http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/editorials/4959/1/ From this link, I'd like to bring some words: Debian captured the spirit of those early years and brings that spirit forward to the present day. As a result, Debian is in many ways the core of the Linux community and a vendor-neutral arbiter... to make sure everybody plays nice (these are not my words, but rather the words of IBM and HP executives, respectively). It is absolutely critical to our collective success that we remember our roots, because it is the fertile soil in which those roots took hold that makes Linux so unique and so valuable. We have to remember this when we argue our technical (or non technical) stuff. Cheers, -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: When are u realising the next stable Debian Version?
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:36:01PM -0300, Vagner R. F. S. wrote: I'd like to know how long it will take for the next Debian Stable Version to come up. Is it only in December or before it? This is the latest schedule: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/08/msg3.html If you want to stay informed, you can subscribe to debian-devel-announce list at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/ -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Es Debian compatible con los procesadores AMD 64?
Basically he asks for Debian compatability with AMD64 processors. --- On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 06:13:37PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola a todos y a todas, estoy a punto de adquirir un nuevo PC, y estaba pensando en instalar Debian en él, en lugar de Windows. Pero una duda asaltó a mi cabeza: Es Debian compatible con el nuevo procesador de AMD a 64 bits? En primer lugar comentarte que esta es una lista en inglés, por lo que los mensajes que dirijas a ella deberían estar en este idioma. Si deseas hacer preguntas en español, la lista correcta es debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org En cuanto a tu pregunta, hay que hacer una pequeña diferenciación. Dado que un AMD64 puede usar código de 32bits sin problema, se podría considerar que Debian sí que es completamente compatible con AMD64. Si lo que quieres es el modo nativo de 64bits, aunque el port no está aún incluído como oficial en la distribución, no debería pasar mucho tiempo antes de que esto suceda, pues actualmente más del 96% de los paquetes ya están compilados para AMD64. Mira los enlaces que hay en http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/index.en.html y consulta la lista de del port para otras preguntas. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how many CDs?
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 03:27:40PM -0400, John wrote: Hi, I just wanted to check to see how many CDs the full official latest release of debian uses. When I went to a few of the download sites they had about 8 images to download, all different sizes, but all up there in the 500-600 million bytes. So I am a little confused now as to what exactly I should download. Please let me know, thanks! I strongly recommend you to follow the advices given at http://www.debian.org/CD/ Mainly the one asking you to download only a minimal bootable CD image, and installing afterwards from the network. If you have a fast link to the computer being installed, you will need to download only the software you're going to install, saving a hughe amount of bandwith. If you need for some reason a copy of CD set, please use jigdo to build them. Here are the reasons why jigdo use is better: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ Cheers, -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: question about logo and baner Debian
El día 28 may 2003, Kroczek Grzegorz escribía: Dear Sir My name is Grzegorz Kroczek. I prefer Linux distributions (not Microsoft system products). Can I use on my www page baner and logo on my www Page to promote Debian distributions for clients (according terms of Open Source Debian licences) with links on page www.debian.org? You can use the Open Use Logo: http://www.debian.org/logos/ And you have banners at: http://www.debian.org/banners/ -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpuuPR4W77yw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Informació n sobre Woody
El día 21 may 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribía: Tengo una colección de CDs de la versión 3.0r0 de DEBIAN y quisiera comprobar su integridad (md5sum), pero no encuentro dicha versión en el apartado stable, donde solamente aparece la 3.0r1a. ¿Donde podría encontrar las sumas?. Gracias! Aquí: http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.fi.debian.org/debian-cd/3.0_r0/i386/MD5SUMS De todos modos, para tu información, esta es una lista en inglés :) --- English: He asks for the md5sums of Woody 3.0r0 CD set because he wants to check some CDs he has. And says that he cannot find them in any mirror. I (thanks Jacobo) needed some time and help to find them. Shouldn't this (both the md5sum and the images) be saved somewhere? archive.debian.org? Cheers -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpAf73SaeLuw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why free shouldn't have to mean complicated
On Sun, May 04, 2003 at 08:35:08PM -0700, David Nusinow wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 10:19:40AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 02:17:57AM +0200, Felix Steiner wrote: But in my opinion free software fails if it is only for geeks. Why not try to coordinate development to make an easier installer? Why not bring to people what you are working for so hard? I'm sure that there are people that would like to make things simpler. I hope they will do so. If you're new to Linux, downloading ISOs and hoping isn't a really good thing to do. Buy some CDs from someone reputable, and an introductory book, and install the former while reading the latter. Unix is _very_ different to Windows, and if you don't want to suffer through relearning all habits, you need either a book or a friend to guide you through it. This does remind me, has anyone started a real Debian Desktop metadistro/flavor? The desktop subproject hasn't been very active in Yes, things in their initial steps. We must to discuss some things still, but we have created yet a metadistros project in alioth (https://www.alioth.org/projects/metadistros) terms of discussion, and I think a good piece of the work is in place with the new package tags to make it. apt and aptitude/dselect/other frontends still need to be patched to work with sublists of packages in order to cut things out like web servers for the user. Knoppix is a Debian-desktop has not strictly the same goal than a metadistros project, though debian-desktop can benefit from it, as other Debian subprojects. good start, but its focus really is more on the liveCD thing than on being a desktop distro. Unfortunately, the really big missing piece to this as far as I can see is still the installer. After all, hardware autodetection and a pretty installer is something that many users have been asking for on their desktops. You must have into account that it's not the same a general purpose installer, such as the one Debian or Mandrake provides than the install method used by Knoppix and other Live-CDs, in which you copy a *preconfigured* system into your HD. One of my personal dreams is to make this very much a part of Debian, rather than just another fork, or another package that you install. Rather, it's a choice made during install as to what you're running (Server, Desktop, etc.) and it's a choice that can easily be changed and still remain wholly within the main Debian infrastructure. Vendors could package it up as Debian Desktop Edition and sell it with a printed copy of the special Desktop Manual describing how to use Gnome or KDE, how to change your screensaver and desktop background, how to play solitaire and the like. I feel like many of our users are asking for this, and they also want it to be a real part of Debian. If it becomes just another fork like Knoppix, it doesn't really serve our users because our users aren't just distro makers. How do other people feel about this? Would this be serving our users better? Or should we focus more on allowing project like Knoppix to happen and leave the sort of people like Felix to them? Then join us. I have set up a list in alioth, but seems to have some issues. I can send you some links in private if you want so you can see the work in which we are going to base. Cheers, -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpzklaCykXYe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian reliability growth
On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 07:11:27PM +0100, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 07:46:08AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Debian stable is like a Cisco machine. You install/purchase it, you configure it, you put it into a corner and forget about it (in case for Debian except for security updates). You don't have to maintain it too actively and can concentrate on the things that are important to you or your business. Hmm perhaps not a question for this list, but wat happens when the following lines are in sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stable/updates main and there is a new release, i.e. `stable' is now a symlink to say `sarge' instead of `woody'? When the box does its weekly `apt-get update apt-get upgrade' Won't there change a lot? Yes, it will change a lot. Even, you should use dist-upgrade for that. But if you want to be stuck to woody and change to sarge when you feel you're ready, use that name in the apt lines. So, intead of using stable use woody. And wouldn't it also become hazardous with only the second line? All security updates are released through security.d.o, so having the second line will make you update those packages with a security problem. If you don't have also the first line, you'll lose point releases which sometimes change other packages which have a lot of bugs. -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpFGpLzXhJ9K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenSSL
El día 03 mar 2003, David Moreno Garza escribía: ^^- Get out of him Branden! On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 06:01, magness wrote: Bonjour, J'ai lu que des chercheurs suisses avaient réussi à casser SSL, et que la nouvelle version d'OpenSSL (0.9.7a) intègrait un remède. Un paquet Debian intégrant cette nouvelle version est-elle en cours ? Merci d'avance, AGRR! You damn no english speakers. Please, please, PLEASE! Write in english, that's the universal language. I learn everyday from this list, and I hate those no english mails, AGRRR! When you see debian.org in french, well, that will be the oficial language, by now, please type ENGLISH. You don't need to be so impolite. Some people yet answered him in French telling him that this is not a French speaking list. You'll see a lot of people writing here in their own language, even in Spanish. Almost nowhere says that debian-project is only in English, and thankfully we have developers from almost every country in the world which can help translating and directig people to correct places. And AFAIK, English is not set as universal anywhere. Using it is what makes it universal. But that doesn't everyone in the planet must know it. Knowing it is a privilege which enhaces communication between people from different countries. Nothing more. La politique est un domaine où il faut constamment choisir entre deux gaffes. The politics is fault constantly choose glasses, or what?!?!?! AGRR. And if I say: No es necesario ser tan brusco. ¿Te gustaría que lo hubieran sido contigo cuando conociste Debian? A lot of people in the list also won't understand anything. -- David Moreno Garza = A medio mundo le gustan los perros; y hasta el día de hoy nadie sabe qué quiere decir 'guau'. - Mafalda. = Quite curious to have the signature written in Spanish. -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpRQaKJRXY2B.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dúvida
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 11:05:55AM -0200, Sindicato Rural de Ponta Porã wrote: Prezados Amigos. Gostaria de saber antes de comprar o CD, se posso rodar os dois sistemas juntos Windows 98 e Debian ? Si Nao vou ter problemas de rodar o Windows ? Nao Obrigado e aguardo a resposta no e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is an english-speaking list, and related to other things. You should ask this better on debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org in which you can write in Portuguese. In addition, you can go to http://www.debian.org/CD/ and get Debian from the net. -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice ??
El día 13 Sep 2002, Dpolville escribía: Why isn't OpenOffice on package list ? It will be added soon to sid distribution. FOr now, try one of the unoffcial mirrors, as you have been said in the previos message. -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: doubts about GNU/Linux installation
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 04:20:50PM -0300, Diogo Traldi de Oliveira wrote: I have a Compaq computer with a 7463 AMD-K6-2 processor. I don't known how of the installation guide a take. I have these options: Installation Manual for Intel x86 This one. An AMD processor is an Intel x86 compatible processor (at least for now. -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
