Re: A bit of history
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: I guess that depends on what you consider joined. You might also consider your first posting to a Debian mailing list. Or possible, your first contribution (e.g., bug submission or patch submission). I would define it like this: 1. Started using - the moment one installed his/her first Debian system. 2. Joined community - first post to the mailing list; most probably asking for advice or providing advice to somebody else. 3. Got involved - submitted first bug report, or provided additional information for existing bug report, submitted a patch. 3. Became a contributor/maintainer - packaged software, joined a team, signed up as NM. 4. Officially joined - passed NM. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGb6xFztOe9mov/y4RAn9CAKCOC6YayAoXp2QL19sZPKuwqXMBOgCfXV+C 2eUJ171KWwgzwHqHYd5rY8Y= =N3Sc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Change of the debian code-name base?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Torsten Trautwein wrote: Frankly, I think that both are fairly corny. If we are to change, we should make a more meaningful change. I've got no problems with a more serious naming resource, the Simpsons were just a pretty obvious (Lenny) suggestion. I reread your message a couple of times, but I fail to see your motivation behind this proposal. Except for your personal preference, what problems do you see with current naming scheme? The current scheme is non-offensive, simple (one word), and somewhat meaningful (for example Sid is the kid that breaks toys). If you do not like the names, you can use Stable, Testing, Unstable, or version numbers. For example Stable 4.0 == Etch. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGWE9lztOe9mov/y4RAtj2AKDHMXKSGvYM3cXiznKClMRv69fSIACfU5Mk F25/5ygsxFtU/Dly5onv008= =DzL+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian in the Federal Government
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: It turns out that the response in cases like that is one of two things: 1. we'll pay up and get the licenses current 2. we can do without it Though, my understanding is that at state and local levels (universities, community colleges, etc) the idea of using free software alternatives is much more accepted. Where I did my undergrad, GSView was on every windows machine on campus, just to point out one instance. At university in my city they (the IT department guys) do not mind using free software, and even use free operating systems on servers. However there is a difference between being a free software enthusiast, and an engineer working on an insanely large network, trying to keep things working. At universities software comes at a fraction of all the other IT expenses: computer hardware, routers, cables, printer toners, repairs, etc. And do not forget all sorts of academic discounts from MS. So there is almost no difference price-wise. As I have already mentioned, we do have free software. But mostly due to lecturers requesting legal software for their students to work with at home. Some examples: Eclipse and Free Pascal for programming classes; GNU R for statistics; GCC for programming AVR microcontrollers; OpenOffice.org in conference rooms, just in case somebody might need it. Also administrators of local departments are more or less free to install additional software they like, as long as it legal. Some choose free software, while others install crap like WinZip and reinstall the OS when it expires. Noticed something missing? Yes, no free operating systems on desktops. The main reason for this is that MS is the way it always was, it is a tradition, they use it at home, they know how it works. And by they I mean everybody, not just the IT guys. That does not sound like a good argument? Well think about it: would you really be that happy if somebody told you that you must drop Debian for some other system you know little or nothing about, AND you still have to make sure everything works, AND do your regular job at the same time. I certainly would not... As for the somebody to yell at argument, well... that sounds like a myth to me. Never heard of anyone contacting a software vendor when things break. I could be wrong on this one, though. Yes, I do work there. And this seems to be going a little off-topic... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFz5QeztOe9mov/y4RArqZAJ0YXN8Kzjv6eKICfujd5pUBUhCqIgCeL3E4 xJ6X7cBg5ZDuX11BuaHAOXk= =+hRs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Logo Use
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frans Pop wrote: Unfortunately the Debian swirl is relatively easy to create and quite a few people seem to get basically the same idea (I recently came across our logo in noodle soup...). Maybe setting up a gallery of those would be a fun thing to do? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLogoMisunderstandings anyone? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFpoNRztOe9mov/y4RAuzBAJsGVQCfIh1WdbR400gQN/TK3Q3yhwCeISKg U/3yJNJO7TM7GDz/TvrvJZo= =U3vL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian logo on commercial of the big mobilephones shops network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: Here are the links: [...] The sign is something like: hot line of support, for our clients... telephone number, name of the shops network These seem to be accessible to members only, so I uploaded the files here: http://home.gna.org/qemulaunch/nothing-to-see-here/deblogo01.jpg http://home.gna.org/qemulaunch/nothing-to-see-here/deblogo02.jpg It seems that there really is a Debian logo next to large red letters. Also note a light yellow swirl in the background. I checked their official website (http://www.euroset.ru/), and did not manage to locate anything Debian-related. The site that seems to be the English version (http://www.euroset.com/) requires Flash player, so I did not check that. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFaEYmztOe9mov/y4RAlX7AKCvxwx9YeZwLrjmWaXR7+skq0xkQQCeMml4 7uGQJY7lOF6kBZaJqDoasfg= =suGG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt
Igor Bogomazov wrote: I just received a mail from one friend of mine, he reported aptitude retrieves updated package list from servers (included in /etc/apt/sources.list) by diffs, i.e. does not download the whole list, but only modifications (like patches). Sorry if I cannot epxress clear. Your friend was right. A shiny new feature for all of us to enjoy. Please approve or reject this information. And don't you intend to make package upgrades by diffs (or deltas, but I do not know difference) like one could use on SuSe or Gentoo? Read [1] and please post similar questions to debian-user in the future. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/04/msg01093.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: irc.debian.org
Raphael Hertzog wrote: What does +s exactly do? Many more channels have this, #debian-qa and #debian.de on OFTC too. So your list is incomplete right now. +s stands for secret. It means that the channel will not be seen on channel list. It also makes it impossible to tell if a person is on the channel, unless you are on it yourself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
