Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:03:35AM -0500, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader wrote: Here is the first of my reports as Debian Project Leader. You may read it in HTML format at: http://people.debian.org/~branden/dpl/reports/2005-04-24.html (First suggestion: set M-F-T appropriately. It was set to debian-devel-announce and [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-project would be better, or debian-devel.) Sarge Release Challenges and Progress - [...] I offer a status report on the Sarge release because of its criticality, and because as DPL I want to do everything I can to keep our developers and users apprised of this central issue. If the release managers see that this report is correlated with a spike in reckless uploads to unstable, however, I will be forced to refrain from offering them. As I said in all three of the interviews I conducted recently (see `Interviews and Public Appearances`_, below), my top priority as DPL is to not get in the way of the Sarge release. Please do not put me in the awkward position of having to refrain from reporting on this issue to serve that goal. Just a bit of (hopefully constructive) feedback: I find the above to be quite unnecessarily condescending. We're not children and deserve to be treated as such. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Hamish Moffatt wrote: and users apprised of this central issue. If the release managers see that this report is correlated with a spike in reckless uploads to [...] Just a bit of (hopefully constructive) feedback: I find the above to be quite unnecessarily condescending. We're not children and deserve to be treated as such. While we are not children, there are a lot of us who are rather expletive deleted individuals. DDs do reckless, irresponsible uploads all the time, why should anyone expect people not to do it after a sarge-might-freeze heads'up? If you never act like that, just ignore the whole thing. It is not meant for you. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24
On Monday 25 April 2005 14:10, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I think the request is ok (and the release managers have requested the same before, quite reasonably). My complaint was Branden's threat: if his email triggers more uploads, he'll stop sending emails. er, no, if it triggers an upload storm, he'll stop reporting on release-issues in his emails, not stop sending mails all together. Quite a different thing no? -- Cheers, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) 1. Encrypted mail preferred (GPG KeyID: 0x86624ABB) 2. Plain-text mail recommended since I move html and double format mails to a low priority folder (they're mainly spam) pgpgJhmRhXlTo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 02:36:35PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: On Monday 25 April 2005 14:10, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I think the request is ok (and the release managers have requested the same before, quite reasonably). My complaint was Branden's threat: if his email triggers more uploads, he'll stop sending emails. er, no, if it triggers an upload storm, he'll stop reporting on release-issues in his emails, not stop sending mails all together. Quite a different thing no? Not really. It's still I'll-take-something-away-if-you-don't-behave. As the release managers are doing a fine job of communicating themselves I didn't expect the DPL to report on the release anyway. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Project Leader report for 2005-04-24
On Monday 25 April 2005 15:40, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 02:36:35PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: On Monday 25 April 2005 14:10, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I think the request is ok (and the release managers have requested the same before, quite reasonably). My complaint was Branden's threat: if his email triggers more uploads, he'll stop sending emails. er, no, if it triggers an upload storm, he'll stop reporting on release-issues in his emails, not stop sending mails all together. Quite a different thing no? Not really. It's still I'll-take-something-away-if-you-don't-behave. I disagree, it's just a I'm gonna try this, if I find it is counterproductive, I won't do it again in the future which IMO is just common sense. As the release managers are doing a fine job of communicating themselves true :- ) -- Cheers, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) 1. Encrypted mail preferred (GPG KeyID: 0x86624ABB) 2. Plain-text mail recommended since I move html and double format mails to a low priority folder (they're mainly spam) pgpcR89JVI3ZD.pgp Description: PGP signature
