Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
Hello Antonio, nice initiative ! On Thu, 21 May 2020, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > For services, my starting point is https://wiki.debian.org/Services For > tools, I currently have a list of the ones I usually contribute to, but > can add more. > > Not the part where I need your help. I'm looking for people who maintain > or contribute to a Debian infrastructure service or tool that could use > some help with programming, have the availability to provide some > mentoring for someone who is already a programmer but not necessarily > already involved with Debian, and would like your project to be > highlighted in such a talk. I would definitely like to have tracker.debian.org be highlighted in such a talk. I spent a fair amount of time to have proper documentation for new contributors and we have CI on merge requests, i.e. we're well prepared to welcome contributors but few show up and even fewer keep contributing on the long run. https://qa.pages.debian.net/distro-tracker/contributing.html IRC: #debian-qa Mailing list: debian...@lists.debian.org Cheers, -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Raphaël Hertzog ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋The Debian Handbook: https://debian-handbook.info/get/ ⠈⠳⣄ Debian Long Term Support: https://deb.li/LTS signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 03:36:15PM -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > Not the part where I need your help. I'm looking for people who maintain > or contribute to a Debian infrastructure service or tool that could use > some help with programming, have the availability to provide some > mentoring for someone who is already a programmer but not necessarily > already involved with Debian, and would like your project to be > highlighted in such a talk. nm.debian.org: - code is at https://salsa.debian.org/nm-team/nm.debian.org and it has a README explaining how to deploy a local development version - Python, Django, or JavaScript[1] front-end help is always welcome - Plenty of issues to pick from https://salsa.debian.org/nm-team/nm.debian.org/-/issues and https://bugs.debian.org/nm.debian.org - People with experience with the code hang out in #debian-newmaint on OFTC contributors.debian.org: - code is at https://salsa.debian.org/nm-team/contributors.debian.org and it has a README explaining how to deploy a local development version - Python, Django, or JavaScript[1] front-end help is always welcome - Plenty of issues to pick from https://salsa.debian.org/nm-team/contributors.debian.org/-/issues and https://bugs.debian.org/nm.debian.org - People with experience with the code hang out in #debian-newmaint on OFTC debtags.debian.org - code is at https://salsa.debian.org/debtags-team/debtagsd - some issues at https://bugs.debian.org/debtags.debian.org - I'm barely managing to look after the site these days because all the others have more pressing issues for me to deal with - it has great fun potential if someone wanted to take it over up and play with things like gamification of tagging contributions, or playing package search front-ends - contact point: sadly, only me sso.debian.org: - code is at https://salsa.debian.org/debsso-team/debsso - it's hard to deploy a local development version - it's mostly there as legacy, now that we can use Salsa as OIDC provider. To do a nice thing, it needs to be made to support Salsa OIDC, too, so that services that still only authenticate with client certs don't need to depend on the crumbling former-alioth setup. - contact point: mostly me Enrico [1] the UI is a Bootstrap4 layout keep as uncomplicated as possible -- GPG key: 4096R/634F4BD1E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 03:32:31AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 7:02 PM Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > > I'm planning a talk titled "I'm a programmer, how can I help Debian?" ... > There are a number of non-packaging tasks for coders listed here: > > https://www.debian.org/intro/help > > > to present several Debian infrastructure services and tools that could > > receive contributions, highlighting a few where contributions could have > > a larger impact in the community (IMO). > > Pretty much every Debian service needs help, please emphasise that in your > talk. Yes, it is OK to break the consensus "somebody else does it better then me" Regards Geert Stappers -- Silence is hard to parse
Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 4:28 PM Federico Ceratto wrote: > IMO a friendly interface to create, list and search for work items > would help. This is Debian's attempt at such a tool: https://wiki.debian.org/how-can-i-help -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
Hello Laura, On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:09:18AM +0200, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > Hi Antonio > > El 21/5/20 a las 20:36, Antonio Terceiro escribió: > > Hi, > > > > I'm planning a talk titled "I'm a programmer, how can I help Debian?" in > > which I intend to present contribution opportunities for people who are > > programmers, but are not necessarily interested in packaging. My plan is > > to present several Debian infrastructure services and tools that could > > receive contributions, highlighting a few where contributions could have > > a larger impact in the community (IMO). > > > > For services, my starting point is https://wiki.debian.org/Services For > > tools, I currently have a list of the ones I usually contribute to, but > > can add more. > > > > Not the part where I need your help. I'm looking for people who maintain > > or contribute to a Debian infrastructure service or tool that could use > > some help with programming, have the availability to provide some > > mentoring for someone who is already a programmer but not necessarily > > already involved with Debian, and would like your project to be > > highlighted in such a talk. > > > > If that's you, please reply to this message and provide some information > > about your service or tool. Package names are enough for tools in the > > archive, otherwise links/wiki pages/etc are appreciated. Please also > > mention a contact point (IRC channel, mailing list etc). > > > Thanks for the initiative! > > Is there a deadline to send the info to you/the list? This talk is scheduled for June 5th, so for that instance I need replies before then. But I can also do it gain in the future, so whenever I receive the information, it will be helpful. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
Thanks for the initiative. I think it could be expanded to include Debian-specific tools and libraries that are not part of the infrastructure. IMO a friendly interface to create, list and search for work items would help. I can see myself filtering by: - programming language - type of contribution: development, review, testing, translation... - topic - amount of work required - requests and offers for mentoring ...but also subscribe to items I care about For example, FreedomBox is doing something similar using labels on Salsa, e.g. https://salsa.debian.org/freedombox-team/freedombox/-/issues?label_name%5B%5D=beginner A dedicated package on the BTS could be used instead but the BTS seems to appear a bit daunting to newcomers... Thanks! -- Federico Ceratto
Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
Heya, thanks for this initiative! On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 03:36:15PM -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > I'm planning a talk titled "I'm a programmer, how can I help Debian?" in > which I intend to present contribution opportunities for people who are > programmers, but are not necessarily interested in packaging. My plan is > to present several Debian infrastructure services and tools that could > receive contributions, highlighting a few where contributions could have > a larger impact in the community (IMO). > > For services, my starting point is https://wiki.debian.org/Services For > tools, I currently have a list of the ones I usually contribute to, but > can add more. > > Not the part where I need your help. I'm looking for people who maintain > or contribute to a Debian infrastructure service or tool that could use > some help with programming, have the availability to provide some > mentoring for someone who is already a programmer but not necessarily > already involved with Debian, and would like your project to be > highlighted in such a talk. > > If that's you, please reply to this message and provide some information > about your service or tool. Package names are enough for tools in the > archive, otherwise links/wiki pages/etc are appreciated. Please also > mention a contact point (IRC channel, mailing list etc). sources.debian.org, AKA Debsources, could use some help. I'm definitely MIA on it, and the bulk of code maintenance is being assured by Mathieu alone, including migration to Python 3 (thanks!). Having someone else would be good, and I think it might be a piece of infra that might be interesting to work on even for people that don't have a lot of Debian insider knowledge. Links: - service: https://sources.debian.org/ - code: https://salsa.debian.org/qa/debsources - bugs: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;include=subject%3Adebsources;package=qa.debian.org Hope this helps and thanks again ! Cheers -- Stefano Zacchiroli . z...@upsilon.cc . upsilon.cc/zack . . o . . . o . o Computer Science Professor . CTO Software Heritage . . . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader & OSI Board Director . . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club » signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 7:02 PM Antonio Terceiro wrote: > I'm planning a talk titled "I'm a programmer, how can I help Debian?" in > which I intend to present contribution opportunities for people who are > programmers, but are not necessarily interested in packaging. There are a number of non-packaging tasks for coders listed here: https://www.debian.org/intro/help > to present several Debian infrastructure services and tools that could > receive contributions, highlighting a few where contributions could have > a larger impact in the community (IMO). Pretty much every Debian service needs help, please emphasise that in your talk. > If that's you, please reply to this message and provide some information > about your service or tool. Package names are enough for tools in the > archive, otherwise links/wiki pages/etc are appreciated. Please also > mention a contact point (IRC channel, mailing list etc). As per the previous discussion on mentoring for infrastructure projects I'm willing to attempt to help folks contribute to pretty much any area of Debian infrastructure. The debian-mentors list and channel are appropriate for this. https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/29bd183f-1d7d-4d90-7262-7095ab377...@freesources.org https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#Infrastructure_Projects Some more specific examples I would like to see: The Debian wiki needs the MoinMoin 2.0 release to happen: https://github.com/moinwiki/moin/milestones The Debian derivatives census needs both coding and non-coding contributors. https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/CensusQA Porting the PTS patches panel changes to tracker.d.o: https://bugs.debian.org/779400 Removing hard-coding of architectures, suites, codenames etc from Debian services. https://wiki.debian.org/SuitesAndReposExtension There are a number of things that would be useful to have in check-all-the-things, some of which there are half-completed branches for, or are just ideas (for eg sandboxing or machine-readable output). https://github.com/collab-qa/check-all-the-things/ https://github.com/pabs3/check-all-the-things/ -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Re: Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
Hi Antonio El 21/5/20 a las 20:36, Antonio Terceiro escribió: > Hi, > > I'm planning a talk titled "I'm a programmer, how can I help Debian?" in > which I intend to present contribution opportunities for people who are > programmers, but are not necessarily interested in packaging. My plan is > to present several Debian infrastructure services and tools that could > receive contributions, highlighting a few where contributions could have > a larger impact in the community (IMO). > > For services, my starting point is https://wiki.debian.org/Services For > tools, I currently have a list of the ones I usually contribute to, but > can add more. > > Not the part where I need your help. I'm looking for people who maintain > or contribute to a Debian infrastructure service or tool that could use > some help with programming, have the availability to provide some > mentoring for someone who is already a programmer but not necessarily > already involved with Debian, and would like your project to be > highlighted in such a talk. > > If that's you, please reply to this message and provide some information > about your service or tool. Package names are enough for tools in the > archive, otherwise links/wiki pages/etc are appreciated. Please also > mention a contact point (IRC channel, mailing list etc). > Thanks for the initiative! Is there a deadline to send the info to you/the list? Kind regards, -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
Debian infra services and tools looking for programming contributions
Hi, I'm planning a talk titled "I'm a programmer, how can I help Debian?" in which I intend to present contribution opportunities for people who are programmers, but are not necessarily interested in packaging. My plan is to present several Debian infrastructure services and tools that could receive contributions, highlighting a few where contributions could have a larger impact in the community (IMO). For services, my starting point is https://wiki.debian.org/Services For tools, I currently have a list of the ones I usually contribute to, but can add more. Not the part where I need your help. I'm looking for people who maintain or contribute to a Debian infrastructure service or tool that could use some help with programming, have the availability to provide some mentoring for someone who is already a programmer but not necessarily already involved with Debian, and would like your project to be highlighted in such a talk. If that's you, please reply to this message and provide some information about your service or tool. Package names are enough for tools in the archive, otherwise links/wiki pages/etc are appreciated. Please also mention a contact point (IRC channel, mailing list etc). signature.asc Description: PGP signature
