Re: ECCN number?

2008-03-11 Thread Joe Smith


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Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:45 AM, John Eric Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  Does Debian have an ECCN number for exporting? I am trying to get one
  for the OS itself.

From the list archives and our BXA notification template, it looks
like our ECCN is 5D002:


As hinted by

http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/08/msg00073.html

I suspect debian as a whole exceeds the limits of 5D002 according to
http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/ear_data.html#ccl
so the ECCN would be 4D003, but I've not seen official confirmation
either way.


My concern is that 4D003 does not have the EI reason for control that former 
Munitions cryptographic software (5D002) does. It seems really strange to 
me that by including sufficient other software, the EI export control reason 
should just magically disappear. That sounds like it would be at best a 
major loophole, and at worst such a large loophole as to make the whole 
expert control system fail. 




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ECCN number?

2008-03-10 Thread John Eric Clark

Hi;

Does Debian have an ECCN number for exporting? I am trying to get one 
for the OS itself.


Thank you,
John Clark
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Re: ECCN number?

2008-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:45 AM, John Eric Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Does Debian have an ECCN number for exporting? I am trying to get one
  for the OS itself.

From the list archives and our BXA notification template, it looks
like our ECCN is 5D002:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/08/msg00069.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/08/msg00073.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/08/msg00074.html
http://ftp-master.debian.org/bzr/debian-archive-kit/templates/process-new.bxa_notification

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Re: ECCN number?

2008-03-10 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 02:37:34AM +0900, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:45 AM, John Eric Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Does Debian have an ECCN number for exporting? I am trying to get one
   for the OS itself.
 
 From the list archives and our BXA notification template, it looks
 like our ECCN is 5D002:
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/08/msg00069.html
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/08/msg00073.html
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/08/msg00074.html
 http://ftp-master.debian.org/bzr/debian-archive-kit/templates/process-new.bxa_notification
 
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a little OT is Anthony Towns recent blog post about this:
http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/blog/2008/03/07?seemore=y#2008-03-07-10years2
but fun to read.
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Re: ECCN number?

2008-03-10 Thread MJ Ray
Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:45 AM, John Eric Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Does Debian have an ECCN number for exporting? I am trying to get one
   for the OS itself.

 From the list archives and our BXA notification template, it looks
 like our ECCN is 5D002:

As hinted by
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/08/msg00073.html
I suspect debian as a whole exceeds the limits of 5D002 according to
http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/ear_data.html#ccl
so the ECCN would be 4D003, but I've not seen official confirmation
either way.  Certainly the software which is relevant for
 http://ftp-master.debian.org/bzr/debian-archive-kit/templates/process-new.bxa_notification
would be 5D002.

If anyone gets official confirmation, please mail it in.

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