Re: FYI: Creative Commons 4.0 process starts

2011-12-28 Thread Francesco Poli 
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:26:09 +0100 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

 So, to turn this into something even more useful: is there anyone
 willing to keep an eye on the CC process on behalf of Debian?
 
 The ideal candidate should be a license geek in agreement with the
 current position of the Debian Project on which licenses are DFSG-free
 and which are not.  We would all love if such a person will take care of
 reporting what is going on in the CC process, looking from a Debian
 angle, on a regular basis.

I subscribed to the cc-licenses mailing list and I will try to
participate in the CC-v4.0 drafting process.

However, I am *not* the ideal candidate that you describe, since I
*disagree* with ftp-masters on how CC-v3.0 licenses should be
considered (as many people on debian-legal and elsewhere are aware,
I am convinced that even CC-by-v3.0 and CC-by-sa-v3.0 licenses *fail* to
meet the DFSG).

As a consequence, I will speak for myself only.
I will try to explicitly clarify that I don't speak on behalf of the
Debian Project, whenever I feel that confusion may arise.

 
 Thanks for the heads up, Paul!

Indeed.
Thanks a lot to Paul for notifying us!


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Re: FYI: Creative Commons 4.0 process starts

2011-12-28 Thread Charles Plessy 
Le Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 01:06:25PM +0100, Francesco Poli a écrit :
 
 I am convinced that even CC-by-v3.0 and CC-by-sa-v3.0 licenses *fail* to
 meet the DFSG).

By the way, is it recorded somewhere, what are the exact changes that made v3.0
acceptable, while v2.5 was not ?

Have a nice day,

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Re: FYI: Creative Commons 4.0 process starts

2011-12-13 Thread Gunnar Wolf 
Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:26:09AM +0100]:
  I hope Debian folks (especially ftpmasters) will be willing to
  subscribe to the cc-licenses list and help ensure that the CC 4.0
  licenses will be suitable for Debian.
 (...)
 So, to turn this into something even more useful: is there anyone
 willing to keep an eye on the CC process on behalf of Debian?
 
 The ideal candidate should be a license geek in agreement with the
 current position of the Debian Project on which licenses are DFSG-free
 and which are not.  We would all love if such a person will take care of
 reporting what is going on in the CC process, looking from a Debian
 angle, on a regular basis.

I am interested and willing to follow up on the discussion. I'll
subscribe to the list - Although I'm currently on a soft-vacation and
won't be able to pay too much attention until the beginning of January.


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FYI: Creative Commons 4.0 process starts

2011-12-12 Thread Paul Wise 
Hi all,

This mail is to advise you that the process for creating the 4.0
versions of the Creative Commons licenses has started:

https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/30676
https://lwn.net/Articles/471803/

I think we need to ensure that the version 4.0 licenses do not regress
in their acceptability for Debian. I hope Debian folks (especially
ftpmasters) will be willing to subscribe to the cc-licenses list and
help ensure that the CC 4.0 licenses will be suitable for Debian.

If you would like to discuss this, please do it on cc-licenses.

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Re: FYI: Creative Commons 4.0 process starts

2011-12-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli 
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:12:19AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 I think we need to ensure that the version 4.0 licenses do not regress
 in their acceptability for Debian.

Agreed.

 I hope Debian folks (especially ftpmasters) will be willing to
 subscribe to the cc-licenses list and help ensure that the CC 4.0
 licenses will be suitable for Debian.

I don't think it's reasonable to ask ftp-masters, who are already busy
with a lot of stuff on a day to day basis, to represent Debian in the CC
process (with which, FWIW, I'm *not* familiar). If they want to do it,
that's great! But we should be ready to have someone else as a backup
and avoid repeating the usual mistake of always overloading the same
individuals with more and more tasks.

So, to turn this into something even more useful: is there anyone
willing to keep an eye on the CC process on behalf of Debian?

The ideal candidate should be a license geek in agreement with the
current position of the Debian Project on which licenses are DFSG-free
and which are not.  We would all love if such a person will take care of
reporting what is going on in the CC process, looking from a Debian
angle, on a regular basis.

Thanks for the heads up, Paul!
Cheers.
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