Forget classes, think privileges (was: Developer Status)

2008-10-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008.10.22.2333 +0200]:
 Now let us describe the way the account status is meant to be handled
 in future.

Finally!

http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/02/msg00079.html

It's the latest message I could find. I am sure I have been harping
on about this before.

One thing that occurs to me reading about what Clint has to say[0]
is that we have a set of privileges, such as voting and uploading
and the access to the various different machines, one punishment
(debian-private access), and Jörg wants to map different
combinations of those to classes.

0. http://xana.scru.org/xana2/ranticore/debknights/

Why don't we just take each and every of those privileges and define
criteria for how to obtain the privilege, and then simply give
people privileges according to what they need, rather than having
a defined set of rigid classes? Obviously, one could still group
privileges (e.g. to be able to vote, you have to endure
debian-private).

And yes, I agree that this ought to be a GR or at least that Jörg's
email should not have been of the this is what we'll most likely
do nature, but rather in the this is what I've been thinking about
and would like to propose for discussion department.

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Re: Forget classes, think privileges (was: Developer Status)

2008-10-23 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Oct 23 10:25, martin f krafft wrote:
 Why don't we just take each and every of those privileges and define
 criteria for how to obtain the privilege, and then simply give
 people privileges according to what they need, rather than having
 a defined set of rigid classes? Obviously, one could still group
 privileges (e.g. to be able to vote, you have to endure
 debian-private).

This is what I was trying to propose last year[0,1]

Matt

0. http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/AltReformedMembershipProcess
1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2007/12/msg00013.html

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Re: Forget classes, think privileges (was: Developer Status)

2008-10-23 Thread MJ Ray
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/02/msg00079.html
[...]
 Why don't we just take each and every of those privileges and define
 criteria for how to obtain the privilege, and then simply give
 people privileges according to what they need, rather than having
 a defined set of rigid classes? Obviously, one could still group
 privileges (e.g. to be able to vote, you have to endure
 debian-private).

I think that's an excellent idea.  I would also like any privilege
request queue handled in an approximately First In First Out manner
and I would try to vote accordingly in a GR.

I've been suggesting NM reform since 2003ish.  One recent post is:-
http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/11/msg00085.html

Thanks for saving me time by putting the suggestion in better words
than I could!
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