Re: Long-term hardware replacement planning (Re: (deferred) bits from the DPL: March 2012)
]] Filipus Klutiero Great. Is this plan written? If so, it would be a good idea to make it available. I'll see what we can get done. There's a bit of cleanup to be done, since we don't want to publish all the information from our spreadsheet of doom. It contains quotes and numbers from vendors which they've asked not to be made public. Ditto, I don't think there's much point in publishing the serial numbers of our various servers. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vckxy2iv@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: Long-term hardware replacement planning (Re: (deferred) bits from the DPL: March 2012)
]] Tollef Fog Heen ]] Filipus Klutiero Great. Is this plan written? If so, it would be a good idea to make it available. I'll see what we can get done. There's a bit of cleanup to be done, since we don't want to publish all the information from our spreadsheet of doom. It contains quotes and numbers from vendors which they've asked not to be made public. Ditto, I don't think there's much point in publishing the serial numbers of our various servers. Ok, here goes, best viewed with 8-character wide tabs. If there's anything unclear, please ask. The plan only really goes until 2015, but there are some 2016 bits which snuck in too. This means 2016 is not at all complete. It's also a plan, so will have to be adjusted to reality as time progresses. Machines to be decommissioned, services moved to a VM, by year: 2012: Where Machine HardwareDate new grnet rautavaara Dell 6850 OLD man-da heininenDell 2950 OLD man-da kokkonenHP DL360 G4 OLD man-da liszt HP DL380 G1 2006-01-09 man-da nielsen Dell 2950 OLD man-da unger HP DL360 G5 2008-10-03 ubcece bellini IBM 326mOLD [dead hw] ubcece cimarosaIBM 326mOLD ubcece morricone IBM 326mOLD ubcece paganiniIBM 326mOLD ubcece respighiIBM 326mOLD ubcece vivaldi IBM 326mOLD piatti piatti HP DL385 G1 OLD 2013: Where Machine HardwareDate new grnet cilea Dell 1855 (blade) OLD grnet grieg Dell 6850 OLD grnet holter Dell 1855 (blade) OLD grnet orffDell 1855 (blade) OLD [dying hw] sil englund Dell 2850 OLD sil lindbergDell 2850 OLD sil merikanto HP DL360 G4 OLD 2014: Where Machine HardwareDate new ubcece rossini HP DL585 G2 2007-02-22 ubcece salieri HP DL585 G2 2007-02-22 ubcece traetta HP DL585 G2 2007-02-22 ubcece ravel HP DL385 G1 2005-09-01 Unknown when: Where Machine HardwareDate new csail roreHP DL360 G3 OLD csail senfl HP DL360 G3 OLD [dead hw] sanger sibeliusSun Fire X4200 ? 1und1 schumann? ? Refreshes, by year: 2012: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment --- osuosl bugs-master HP DL360 G5 OLD HP DL380 1und1 powell ? 2008-06-01 ? sponsored 2013: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment --- ubcece stabile generic OLD Super-Micro Storage for snapshot 2014: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment --- ubcece djikstraHP BL460c G52009-03-01 HP BL460c ubcece luchesi HP BL460c G52009-04-01 HP BL460c brown franck HP DL380 G6 2010-05-19 HP DL380 brown franck-MSA MSA60/70? 2010-05-19 ? 2015: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment --- sil beethoven Supermicro 2010-02-01 Super-Micro Storage for backups 2016: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment --- man-da czerny HP DL380 G7 2011-11-02 HP DL380 utwente klecker HP DL380 G7 2011-11-02 HP DL380 accumu pettersson Supermicro 2009? New acquistions, by year: 2012: Where Machine HardwareComment --- man-da (new man-da 1) HP DL380VM host ubcece giustini5 addtl disks fully populate current HP MSA shelf ubcece strozzi network switch ubcece (new ubcece 1) HP BL460c dedicated to udd ubcece (new ubcece 2) HP BL460c dedicated to bugs-mirror ubcece (new ubcece 3) HP BL460c VM host (already donated) ubcece (new ubcece 4) HP BL460c VM host (already donated) 2013: Where Machine HardwareComment --- grnet
Re: Long-term hardware replacement planning (Re: (deferred) bits from the DPL: March 2012)
Where OLD means that the hardware in question is older (often much older) than five years and for which a post-warranty hardware support agreement may not be available or is unreasonably expensive. Goal #1 is consolidation. The goal is to make greater use of virtual machines hosted on a smaller number of physical machines concentrated at fewer hosting providers. Goal #2 is life-cycling. The goal is to have core infrastructure no older than 5 years (ideally) and on next business day hardware support agreements so that inevitable component failures can be addressed quickly. We might keep hardware for more than 5 years but will do so under support agreements. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:33:36PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Tollef Fog Heen ]] Filipus Klutiero Great. Is this plan written? If so, it would be a good idea to make it available. I'll see what we can get done. There's a bit of cleanup to be done, since we don't want to publish all the information from our spreadsheet of doom. It contains quotes and numbers from vendors which they've asked not to be made public. Ditto, I don't think there's much point in publishing the serial numbers of our various servers. Ok, here goes, best viewed with 8-character wide tabs. If there's anything unclear, please ask. The plan only really goes until 2015, but there are some 2016 bits which snuck in too. This means 2016 is not at all complete. It's also a plan, so will have to be adjusted to reality as time progresses. Machines to be decommissioned, services moved to a VM, by year: 2012: Where MachineHardwareDate new grnet rautavaara Dell 6850 OLD man-daheininenDell 2950 OLD man-dakokkonenHP DL360 G4 OLD man-daliszt HP DL380 G1 2006-01-09 man-danielsen Dell 2950 OLD man-daunger HP DL360 G5 2008-10-03 ubcecebellini IBM 326mOLD [dead hw] ubcececimarosaIBM 326mOLD ubcecemorricone IBM 326mOLD ubcecepaganiniIBM 326mOLD ubcecerespighiIBM 326mOLD ubcecevivaldi IBM 326mOLD piattipiatti HP DL385 G1 OLD 2013: Where MachineHardwareDate new grnet cilea Dell 1855 (blade) OLD grnet grieg Dell 6850 OLD grnet holter Dell 1855 (blade) OLD grnet orffDell 1855 (blade) OLD [dying hw] sil englund Dell 2850 OLD sil lindbergDell 2850 OLD sil merikanto HP DL360 G4 OLD 2014: Where MachineHardwareDate new ubcecerossini HP DL585 G2 2007-02-22 ubcecesalieri HP DL585 G2 2007-02-22 ubcecetraetta HP DL585 G2 2007-02-22 ubceceravel HP DL385 G1 2005-09-01 Unknown when: Where MachineHardwareDate new csail roreHP DL360 G3 OLD csail senfl HP DL360 G3 OLD [dead hw] sangersibeliusSun Fire X4200 ? 1und1 schumann? ? Refreshes, by year: 2012: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment --- osuoslbugs-master HP DL360 G5 OLD HP DL380 1und1 powell ? 2008-06-01 ? sponsored 2013: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment --- ubcecestabile generic OLD Super-Micro Storage for snapshot 2014: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment --- ubcecedjikstraHP BL460c G52009-03-01 HP BL460c ubceceluchesi HP BL460c G52009-04-01 HP BL460c brown franck HP DL380 G6 2010-05-19 HP DL380 brown franck-MSA MSA60/70? 2010-05-19 ? 2015: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment --- sil beethoven Supermicro 2010-02-01 Super-Micro Storage for backups 2016: Where Machine HardwareDate newReplacement hw Comment
Long-term hardware replacement planning (Re: (deferred) bits from the DPL: March 2012)
Hi Stefano, On 2012-04-15 14:19, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: [...] Highlight: long-term hardware replacement planning == The highlight for this month is long term planning of hardware replacement. It's something I've been discussing with DSA for quite a while and on which DSA has worked hard during the recent sprint [1]. As a result, we now have a quite ambitious 5-year hardware replacement plan that will guarantee that all machines in production are under warranty at any given time (with the nice side effect of generally better performances, as they go hand in hand with newer hardware). [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2012/03/msg00032.html The current estimated cost per year is 29'000 USD. That does not yet include buildds and porter-boxes, so it is expected to increase a bit to cover all our hardware needs. But we expect it not increase too much, as we tend to get explicit hardware donations to cover arch-specific needs. Given the current state of Debian finances and donation trends, the plan *looks* sustainable for at least 2-3 years. But this assessment still needs to be refined as soon as, together with the auditors, we'll manage to obtain the history of past Debian transactions, in particular from SPI. We've been waiting for this for about 5 months now, but I'm positive it could become a reality in the next weeks. In the meantime, it is surely safe to start with the plan for the next 1-1.5 years, so I'll give green light to DSA for the first acquisitions as soon as they're ready for it. When implemented, this plan will increase our ability to rely on hardware. But it also means we will need to become a bit more organized about fund-raising. The discussion started with [1] has some insights about how to do that. As part of this, we'll also need to share resources (e.g. contact databases, people, etc.) among the yearly DebConf fund-raising initiatives and the initiatives mentioned in the aforementioned discussion. Great. Is this plan written? If so, it would be a good idea to make it available. [...] Thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f8d92c3.1020...@gmail.com
