Re: Open Letter to Anthony Towns about the d-i mediation ... [forking practicalities]

2006-11-06 Thread MJ Ray
Steve Langasek wrote:
 I have never seen [Sven] attempt to *make peace* with
 Frans, except as a strategy for regaining access to svn.

Is there any way Sven could attempt to do that now without it being seen 
as a strategy for regaining access to svn?

Personally, I doubt it.

How functional is git's svnimport and so on?  Would the powerpc builders 
be open to using a git store upstream instead of d-i's svn, and someone 
with d-i commit access be willing to merge changes back?  I think that's 
about the only route I can see that would let Sven Luther do powerpc 
maintenance directly again.

Hopefully someone smarter will have a better suggestion.  It's sad to 
see so many clever people unwilling to go beyond calling for /ignore 
svenl and sod the powerpc install.  Is no-one smart enough to come up 
with a way that's good enough to stem complaints from both sides?

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Re: Open Letter to Anthony Towns about the d-i mediation ... [forking practicalities]

2006-11-06 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 09:26:47AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
 Steve Langasek wrote:
  I have never seen [Sven] attempt to *make peace* with
  Frans, except as a strategy for regaining access to svn.
 
 Is there any way Sven could attempt to do that now without it being seen 
 as a strategy for regaining access to svn?

No, because at this point, the important thing, despite what Steve says, is
not really the svn commit access. I can perfectly live in the current
situation, if the d-i team where more responsive [1], and frans avoided being
bashful in his replies to the BTS.

This seems totally at odd with Steve's complaint i only want the commit back,
and do not want to solve the issue.

Friendly,

Sven Luther

[1] the apple G5 fancontrol patches are not yet commited for example, making
the boxes go into airplan noiselevel a minute after booting, making the
installer pretty unusable on those, its almost 2 weeks since i commited them.
I agree that the freeze means they could not be uploaded before rc1 is out,
but at least they could have been commited to the svn. Same goes for the
finish-install IBM power serial console patch.


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Re: Open Letter to Anthony Towns about the d-i mediation ... [forking practicalities]

2006-11-06 Thread Julien BLACHE
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Hopefully someone smarter will have a better suggestion.  It's sad to 
 see so many clever people unwilling to go beyond calling for /ignore 
 svenl and sod the powerpc install.  Is no-one smart enough to come up 
 with a way that's good enough to stem complaints from both sides?

To be honest, it does not look like the d-i team is interested in
putting an end to this story. JoeyH's comment on the support page I
set up makes that clear enough I think.

And, as you wrote, any attempt from Sven to fix things up will look
like a desperate attempt to get his commit access back and only that,
so ...

JB.

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