Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
(Dropped planet@ and leader@, who are probably not intrested in this anymore.) On to, 2010-11-11 at 20:06 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:03:38PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com [2010-11-11 16:14:37 CET]: snippage What one does on their own blog is their own thing, what one pushes explicitly to planet.debian is a different area. Just my thoughts, Rhonda snippage So, at the moment, there are blogs with some content relating to donations that are on planet. Lars says that these posts might lead to a change in the focus wrt which packages are developed or motivation in the project. I may not have been as clear as I intended, so allow me a small clarification: I was specifically objecting to involving the Debian project in anything that has to do with money being collected and given to individuals. This was triggered by the suggestion that we put Flattr buttons on packages.debian.org pages. I'm fine with people going out and finding people who pay them to do Debian stuff. I've done paid Debian work myself. But don't get Debian itself involved in that, or much vigorous discussion will happen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1289560393.3572.11.ca...@havelock.lan
Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
[ Please note that this is my very personal opinion and does not neccesarily need to cover the opinion of any of the teams I am in. ] Dear planet folks, I have been made aware that people use Debian resources for personal financial gain using the planet.d.o syndication platform, by for instance including 'flattr' links and images in the text present on planet. Furthermore there are reports of webbugs in some feeds syndicated on planet, or things that systematically leak browsing behaviour to third parties by including images directly from these sides. I think these occurrences might conflict with the rules that govern use of Debian resources. At the very least I consider them to be of extremely bad taste. Therefor I ask you, the maintainers of planet.d.o, to please draft a policy or set of guidelines that will prevent such abuse. Violation of this policy should probably be grounds for removal from planet.debian.org. Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@debian.org | Debian System Administrator Debian GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster Public key http://zobel.ftbfs.de/5d64f870.asc - KeyID: 5D64 F870 GPG Fingerprint: 5DB3 1301 375A A50F 07E7 302F 493E FB8E 5D64 F870 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
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Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
Hi! * Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@debian.org [2010-11-11 10:56]: I have been made aware that people use Debian resources for personal financial gain using the planet.d.o syndication platform, by for instance including 'flattr' links and images in the text present on planet. Furthermore there are reports of webbugs in some feeds syndicated on planet, or things that systematically leak browsing behaviour to third parties by including images directly from these sides. I think these occurrences might conflict with the rules that govern use of Debian resources. At the very least I consider them to be of extremely bad taste. Therefor I ask you, the maintainers of planet.d.o, to please draft a policy or set of guidelines that will prevent such abuse. Violation of this policy should probably be grounds for removal from planet.debian.org. +1 Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010101602.gi4...@anguilla.debian.or.at
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:56, Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@debian.org wrote: [ Please note that this is my very personal opinion and does not neccesarily need to cover the opinion of any of the teams I am in. ] Dear planet folks, I have been made aware that people use Debian resources for personal financial gain using the planet.d.o syndication platform, by for instance including 'flattr' links and images in the text present on planet. -1 for flattr; it's a great way to contribute a few cents; and these people are great contributors to Debian anyways, so why don't they get rewarded? while on that topic, maybe each package on package.qa.d.o should have a flattr button ;-) Furthermore there are reports of webbugs in some feeds syndicated on planet, or things that systematically leak browsing behaviour to third parties by including images directly from these sides. I don't know much about this one, so no positive or negative vote from me. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=pd4lr+hv+0bg+fp1mmejuwlwhxh-wpew8-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: while on that topic, maybe each package on package.qa.d.o should have a flattr button ;-) And one for the packages.d.o guys. And one for the QA guys. And one for DSA. And one for the mirror people. And the ftp-team. And the buildd and wanna-build folks. At which point is this getting silly? Nothing in Debian is a one-man-show. -- | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Peter Palfrader | : :' : The universal http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `' Operating System | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010121142.gk10...@anguilla.noreply.org
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
On to, 2010-11-11 at 14:01 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: -1 for flattr; it's a great way to contribute a few cents; and these people are great contributors to Debian anyways, so why don't they get rewarded? while on that topic, maybe each package on package.qa.d.o should have a flattr button ;-) I see the smiley, but I object anyway: please let's not start promoting non-free services on debian.org. There's a bigger problem lurking in the background, though. We could replace Flattr with a (hypothetical) free service, but we would still have money involved. Money is a powerful motivator. It is not the only thing that motivates people, but it is powerful enough that it can easily warp decision making. If micropayments take off, and the amounts of money grow to become significant, then it's likely that people will work to increase the amount of money they get. If they have to choose between the technically correct option and the money-making one, there is a conflict. Right now that conflict is missing, and the quality of Debian is high because of it. Also, micropayments like Flattr are most likely to go to popular, high-visibility things. Debian mostly consists of the long tail: most packages have fairly few users, but Debian as a whole is stronger for having such a wide variety of packages. If people have to choose between money and working on an unpopular package, there is again a conflict. There's more source conflict: if there's a micropayment button on packages.debian.org, how will the money be divided between members of a packaging team? People who do NMUs? Should people who report particularly useful bugs be rewarded, too? What about people who maintain the Debian infrastructure? There may be a way to collect money via Debian and not have conflicts. But on the whole I would prefer for us to not experiment and avoid this entirely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1289478460.2957.119.ca...@havelock.lan
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
On 11/11/2010 06:01 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Furthermore there are reports of webbugs in some feeds syndicated on planet, or things that systematically leak browsing behaviour to third parties by including images directly from these sides. I don't know much about this one, so no positive or negative vote from me. So that essentially means no inline images on blogs. Because any img tag that appears in a feed on planet -- regardless of if it is a 1x1 transparent image or a 500x300 photo of something at Debconf -- will, let's face it, reveal certain data to the non-Debian server it's on. To me, this is a point where we go, life sucks, but at some point we take it and move on because images in feeds are nice to have. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cdbf83e.1070...@complete.org
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 14:11, Peter Palfrader wea...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: while on that topic, maybe each package on package.qa.d.o should have a flattr button ;-) And one for the packages.d.o guys. And one for the QA guys. And one for DSA. And one for the mirror people. And the ftp-team. And the buildd and wanna-build folks. I was half-joking, but if they so choose, why not. Fundraising doesn't hurt. At which point is this getting silly? When it becomes an eyesore I guess, but this is a design issue I guess. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=yszrtxvysofs7+cc=zkn9jput2=h69-74x...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 14:27, Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi wrote: On to, 2010-11-11 at 14:01 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: -1 for flattr; it's a great way to contribute a few cents; and these people are great contributors to Debian anyways, so why don't they get rewarded? while on that topic, maybe each package on package.qa.d.o should have a flattr button ;-) I see the smiley, but I object anyway: please let's not start promoting non-free services on debian.org. There's a bigger problem lurking in the background, though. We could replace Flattr with a (hypothetical) free service, but we would still have money involved. Money is a powerful motivator. It is not the only thing that motivates people, but it is powerful enough that it can easily warp decision making. If micropayments take off, and the amounts of money grow to become significant, then it's likely that people will work to increase the amount of money they get. If they have to choose between the technically correct option and the money-making one, there is a conflict. Right now that conflict is missing, and the quality of Debian is high because of it. Also, micropayments like Flattr are most likely to go to popular, high-visibility things. Debian mostly consists of the long tail: most packages have fairly few users, but Debian as a whole is stronger for having such a wide variety of packages. If people have to choose between money and working on an unpopular package, there is again a conflict. There's more source conflict: if there's a micropayment button on packages.debian.org, how will the money be divided between members of a packaging team? People who do NMUs? Should people who report particularly useful bugs be rewarded, too? What about people who maintain the Debian infrastructure? You are exposing issues I didn't even think about, thanks. There may be a way to collect money via Debian and not have conflicts. But on the whole I would prefer for us to not experiment and avoid this entirely. If there's a way, why not? Waste of time? Too busy fixing RC bugs? This issue will keep coming back because it's left unresolved. There's people who want to be financially rewarded for their work on Debian, and there people who don't care. Both do matter. Don't let those who don't care disadvantage those who do. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=bg4q=qb6ojg4qnacu7yjtsnzsrpnrpfskg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:27:40PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
There's more source conflict: if there's a micropayment button on
packages.debian.org, how will the money be divided between members of a
packaging team? People who do NMUs? Should people who report
particularly useful bugs be rewarded, too? What about people who
maintain the Debian infrastructure?
AOL.
This, in fact is the main risk for our community that I see coming from
Flattr (and yes, this comment is obviously specific to Flattr rather
than generic). Let's assume that nowadays the given maintenance team of
package foo is composed by developers X, Y. Great, they have been
doing all the work up to now, they are fully entitled to be flattr-ed
and share the gain among them. Then, tomorrow, a new enthusiastic
developer, Z, start working on package maintenance. At which point he
gets the right of asking a share of the gain? Should it be equally
distributed among X, Y, and Z, or not?
The mere possibility of this scenario and of the debates and unhappiness
that can descend from it, is enough to scare me away from the idea of
mass Flattr in the context of FOSS.
There aren't many chances of musing about the characteristics of a pure
gift-economy, but when those chances come, let's appreciate the
important *advantages* gift-economies have over other models.
Cheers.
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Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:56:23AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
Therefor I ask you, the maintainers of planet.d.o, to please draft a
policy or set of guidelines that will prevent such abuse.
I second this request, although my request does not anticipate that they
*are* abuses :). For me, it's just a matter of intellectual honesty: if
we ask Planet maintainers to propose guidelines about this topic, we
should be ready to accept the possibilities that they are not considered
abuses in their opinion.
I take this chance to remind all readers that the current guidelines are
available at http://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian, which has been
recently cleared linked from planet.d.o (Planet maintainers: thanks for
that!). I point that out for two reasons: 1) some recurrent complains
about planet.d.o posts, other than commercial spam, are clearly
addressed in the guidelines already; 2) highlight that current
guidelines are not clear cut (and that is not necessarily bad IMHO),
there are already behaviors which are considered OK-ish if applied
sporadically and a bit less so if applied recurrently.
Cheers.
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Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
* Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com [2010-11-11 16:14:37 CET]: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 14:27, Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi wrote: There may be a way to collect money via Debian and not have conflicts. But on the whole I would prefer for us to not experiment and avoid this entirely. If there's a way, why not? Waste of time? Too busy fixing RC bugs? I think Lars did point it out pretty well, but I can try to phrase it in my words again: There are people that are pushing for the tasks that seemingly are more prominently appreciated. Also people actively hindering the progress of specific improvements until some sponsors for the tasks are found. This leads to a fair amount of interest in such prominent areas, and no interest in the boring tasks that are needed to get the whole thing running. Just follow which teams are regularly asking for help, are known to be looked down upon (politely put) by a fair amount of other developers to do minor stuff but on the other hand have to work their asses off for next to little appreciation. This issue will keep coming back because it's left unresolved. There's people who want to be financially rewarded for their work on Debian, and there people who don't care. Both do matter. Don't let those who don't care disadvantage those who do. Right, but Debian is actually by definition a project of volunteers. Noone can be expected to get paid for it, and that's one of the core principles that is a driving force behind a lot. If some are suddenly starting to prominently push more effort in their blogging round trip time then things get skewed because it's not the driving force that people who have joined the project did expect. What one does on their own blog is their own thing, what one pushes explicitly to planet.debian is a different area. Just my thoughts, Rhonda -- dholbach Last day of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in 34 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.feenode.net * ScottK hands dholbach an r. Rhonda Are they fundraising again? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010160337.ga26...@anguilla.debian.or.at
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org writes: So that essentially means no inline images on blogs. Because any img tag that appears in a feed on planet -- regardless of if it is a 1x1 transparent image or a 500x300 photo of something at Debconf -- will, let's face it, reveal certain data to the non-Debian server it's on. To me, this is a point where we go, life sucks, but at some point we take it and move on because images in feeds are nice to have. I mostly agree with this, but I would draw a distinction between img tags intended to display *images* and pointing back to the hosting site of the person writing the blog and img tags for invisible images that are routinely added to every post and point to some third-party service. (Looking at Page Info on Planet Debian is interesting. There are a *lot* of web bugs.) If the only use of img tags is for actual images that are intended to be displayed, and which aren't added routinely to every post, that's a much different situation (and much less information to disclose) than if every post is routinely tagged with a web bug. The latter seems to be what many people's blogs currently do. I suspect a blacklist on the Planet Debian side could kill most of the bugs after looking over Page Info. I personally blocked four different sites and that got 95% of them. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878w0zn4ta@windlord.stanford.edu
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
I have been made aware that people use Debian resources for personal financial gain using the planet.d.o syndication platform, by for instance including 'flattr' links and images in the text present on planet. Furthermore there are reports of webbugs in some feeds syndicated on planet, or things that systematically leak browsing behaviour to third parties by including images directly from these sides. I think these occurrences might conflict with the rules that govern use of Debian resources. At the very least I consider them to be of extremely bad taste. Therefor I ask you, the maintainers of planet.d.o, to please draft a policy or set of guidelines that will prevent such abuse. Violation of this policy should probably be grounds for removal from planet.debian.org. Well. Fine. As you might know from reading http://wiki.debian.org/PlanetDebian we actually DO have a policy for content on Planet Debian. This is *intentionally* kept vague and we do not want to have it much more specific. Planet is about the people, their life and doings, their thoughts and feelings. We want as much to have about one developer's children and their adventures as we want to have the occasional rant about politics from another Maintainer. We want to have a translator write about their adventures when they are Lost in Translation; we also want to learn about the new company one of our fellow developers just founded, and what problems both face and how they solved them. We also want to learn what other things people are doing, what they like, and so on. A detailed policy will only hurt Planet, and so we keep it short and simple. Should you have a question, comment or even complaint, feel free to mail us at pla...@debian.org. But we do not want, nor do we, rule on general behaviour of people. That is not our place, that needs to be dealt with elsewhere. Note: If you are doubting whether a post is fine for Planet, ask yourself What will the thousands of readers think, with their expectations of Planet, not Will *I* like it?. Planet is for the people to get to know who is behind Debian, not a stage to perform an act. Show your life, do not optimize your posts for the possible readers you might address. :) What Can I Post On Planet? Planet Debian aims to aggregate the blog posts of people who are active in Debian and not only to aggregate the blog posts about Debian. The point is to provide a window into the community itself. Posts that are about Debian are a great idea and some people will choose to only syndicate on topic posts. But other posts are also welcome! We want to learn about the people, their life, opinions (even political) and doings. And so here is our small set of rules about the content on Planet Debian: - Provide individual feeds for each language you post in. The main language for Planet is English.[1] - Try not to annoy people. While there is absolutely no requirement that posts need to be about Debian, if there are a subset of posts that are annoying a large number of people and generating many complaints, you may be asked to consider providing a feed without the posts in question. If you stay away from advertising content (or content that might be confused as such) and from excessively personal information, you should be fine. - Be very careful including material from external sites (ie, not your own blog/domain). The occasional picture from elsewhere is fine, but anything that can be (or is) used to track reader's behavior (commonly called webbugs[2]) is considered bad and grounds for exclusion from Planet. If you regularly need external content, consider providing that from your own site. [1] There are Planets in other languages. Should yours not yet have one, mail pla...@debian.org and ask for one. Have 5 people with you to join the new Planet and it will get created. [2] Feedburner, Google adwhatever/analytics, etc. Hackergotchi Hackergotchi are the little face pictures that can appear next to your entry. They should be a transparent PNG of *just* *your* *head*, with a little shadow if you like. Aim for around 65x85; it's not a strict size, but please don't make them much bigger than this. Please do stick to your head, not a whole square of whatever environment the head happened to be in at the time the picture was taken. It is not hard to get one done right. == And with that above repeated here: Yes, we do think it's bad to have Flattr buttons below every post. (And we would think the same about any other such service.) We are fine with the occasional post sharing which projects you like and would Flattr, but when you do that please make sure to not link the Flattr image from Flattr servers (see webbugs above) but from your own resources. This holds equally true for image links to Facebook/Twitter/delicious/whatevertheyarenamed services. -- bye, Joerg
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
Hi, (I'm hert...@d.o and not b...@d.o) On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Joerg Jaspert wrote: What Can I Post On Planet? [...] - Be very careful including material from external sites (ie, not your own blog/domain). The occasional picture from elsewhere is fine, but anything that can be (or is) used to track reader's behavior (commonly called webbugs[2]) is considered bad and grounds for exclusion from Planet. If you regularly need external content, consider providing that from your own site. This is not in the current policy. I understand and accept that you might decide to not want them on planet.debian.org but then I believe you should filter them on the planet side. I think I have the right to have them in my RSS feed and planet should not be a tool to impose any point of view about the topic of privacy on Debian contributors. We have agreed to build free software together, not to fight against privacy issues in personal blogs of individual developers. They are not too difficult to identify: strip 1x1 images hosted on another domain than the blog article, and images from the major offenders (http://feeds.feedburner.com in my case). Russ said that 4 domains cover 95% of the cases. Note that many blogs hosted on wordpress.com have webbugs as well and I don't know if they can disable them. FYI, I changed my footer to not include the Flattr image and the social button instead I've put a textual link. I will continue to use feedburner however. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer ◈ [Flattr=20693] Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010224329.gb17...@rivendell.home.ouaza.com
Re: Please draft a policy for planet.debian.org
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:03:38PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com [2010-11-11 16:14:37 CET]: snippage What one does on their own blog is their own thing, what one pushes explicitly to planet.debian is a different area. Just my thoughts, Rhonda snippage So, at the moment, there are blogs with some content relating to donations that are on planet. Lars says that these posts might lead to a change in the focus wrt which packages are developed or motivation in the project. Now what would happen if these people either a) removed their blog from planet or b) removed the donation-related post BUT kept producing these donation-related posts outside of debian resources, which would remove the DMUP violation. Would it remove the objections that Lars mentioned? I would assume not, at it would still affect Debian. This might be a seperate issue. -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux ==.| http://kevix.myopenid.com..| | : :' : The Universal OS| mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/.| | `. `' http://www.debian.org/.| http://counter.li.org [#238656]| |___`-Unless I ask to be CCd,.assume I am subscribed._| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101112010633.ga18...@horacrux
