Re: Raspberry Pi - Default Language
Maybe cause K is before T? I don't think they explicit chose Kurdish instead of Turkey for other reasons. On Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 05:21 Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 9:10 PM onurcan köken wrote: > > > My name is Onurcan, from Turkey. I would like to know why "Kurdish" is a > default language when I select the region as "Turkey"? Our official > language is not "Kurdish", it is "Turkish". Kurdish is the second > most-widely spoken language in Turkey, spoken by 12% of the population. > However, Turkish is spoken by 85% of the population anyway. I want you to > think about it again, and give me a meaningful reason as an answer. > > Debian is not responsible for the Raspberry Pi default language, so > you might not have contacted the correct mailing list. I'm not clear > on where you are finding the incorrect language choice though, could > you provide a link to the website or a screenshot of the software > where you see the incorrect language choice? > > -- > bye, > pabs > > https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise > >
Re: Ynt: Raspberry Pi - Default Language
On 9/15/20 03:20, Paul Wise wrote: On Tue, 2020-09-15 at 06:12 +, onurcan köken wrote: Before mailing to you I've mailed to Raspberry Pi about the situation. Here is their answer, "The decision to offer Kurdish as a language option for Turkey is made by the maintainers of Debian. If you are unhappy about this, please take it up with the maintainers of Debian." Hmm, I think they may be mistaken about this. I guess they are using what languages Debian has, showing them in alphabetic order and hence K is before the T. They are blaming Debian for having Kurdish as a language if you chose Turkey, probably. In any way, this is not on Debian.
Re: Ynt: Raspberry Pi - Default Language
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 15:20:52 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > The screenshots of the YouTube video showing the setup of the Raspberry > Pi don't look like the normal Debian installer. Also the phrases that > appear in the screenshots don't seem to appear in any Debian package: > > https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=Welcome+to+Raspberry+Pi&literal=1 > https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=Enter+the+details+of+your+location.&literal=1 > https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=Press+%27Next%27+when+you+have+made+your+selection&literal=1 > > It seems like this is the YouTube video your screenshots are from: > > https://youtu.be/sCtTj_7zsZA (seek to 14:26) I think these images are from the initial setup of the PIXEL desktop environment used by the Raspberry PI OS. Cf. https://itsfoss.com/raspberry-pi-os-desktop/ https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-set-up-how-to,6029.html Cheers, gregor -- .''`. https://info.comodo.priv.at -- Debian Developer https://www.debian.org : :' : OpenPGP fingerprint D1E1 316E 93A7 60A8 104D 85FA BB3A 6801 8649 AA06 `. `' Member VIBE!AT & SPI Inc. -- Supporter Free Software Foundation Europe `- BOFH excuse #158: Defunct processes
Re: Ynt: Raspberry Pi - Default Language
On Tue, 2020-09-15 at 06:12 +, onurcan köken wrote: > Before mailing to you I've mailed to Raspberry Pi about the > situation. > > Here is their answer, > "The decision to offer Kurdish as a language option for Turkey is > made by the maintainers of Debian. If you are unhappy about this, > please take it up with the maintainers of Debian." Hmm, I think they may be mistaken about this. > I am trying to contact to the right person who can give me a good > reason. I am sending a .rar file that shows the problem. The screenshots of the YouTube video showing the setup of the Raspberry Pi don't look like the normal Debian installer. Also the phrases that appear in the screenshots don't seem to appear in any Debian package: https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=Welcome+to+Raspberry+Pi&literal=1 https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=Enter+the+details+of+your+location.&literal=1 https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=Press+%27Next%27+when+you+have+made+your+selection&literal=1 It seems like this is the YouTube video your screenshots are from: https://youtu.be/sCtTj_7zsZA (seek to 14:26) Based on earlier in the video at around 13:43 it seems the distribution being booted is "Raspbian Full" rather than Debian and it is described as "A port of Debian with desktop and recommended applications". Raspbian is a modified version of Debian with a different installation process and other things. In addition to Raspbian, the Raspberry Pi project distributes a modified version of Raspbian. So the issue is in the Raspbian project, probably the original Raspbian project or maybe the modification by the Raspberry Pi folks. I suggest you bring the issue up on the Raspbian forums or IRC channel and ask where you should file a bug about this issue. https://www.raspbian.org/ PS: if you would like to try the Debian images that are available for the Raspberry Pi, they are available here, but please note that they are very different to the one in the video, in particular the images do not have any desktop environment installed. https://raspi.debian.net/ https://raspi.debian.net/defaults-and-settings/ -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Raspberry Pi - Default Language
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 9:10 PM onurcan köken wrote: > My name is Onurcan, from Turkey. I would like to know why "Kurdish" is a > default language when I select the region as "Turkey"? Our official language > is not "Kurdish", it is "Turkish". Kurdish is the second most-widely spoken > language in Turkey, spoken by 12% of the population. However, Turkish is > spoken by 85% of the population anyway. I want you to think about it again, > and give me a meaningful reason as an answer. Debian is not responsible for the Raspberry Pi default language, so you might not have contacted the correct mailing list. I'm not clear on where you are finding the incorrect language choice though, could you provide a link to the website or a screenshot of the software where you see the incorrect language choice? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Raspberry Pi - Default Language
Hello, My name is Onurcan, from Turkey. I would like to know why "Kurdish" is a default language when I select the region as "Turkey"? Our official language is not "Kurdish", it is "Turkish". Kurdish is the second most-widely spoken language in Turkey, spoken by 12% of the population. However, Turkish is spoken by 85% of the population anyway. I want you to think about it again, and give me a meaningful reason as an answer. Regards, Onurcan
