Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
This one time, at band camp, Paul Tagliamonte said: I'd like to raise the objection that the TC hasn't done their job yet, and while the TC has done a great job of getting *true* technically grounded facts out yet, we've not let the process work. Let the TC do their work. They're coming up on a vote, and they may even suggest a GR. This GR is premature. Seconded. Cheers, -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :sg...@debian.org | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
Andreas Tille writes (Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian): On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 01:52:44PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: And, I strongly suggest you trim down both the number of options I will not vote on any GR with more than four options. Note that the number of options on a GR is not necessarily controlled by the proponent. For example, the proponent could propose a GR with four options, but then some people who think the GR was a very bad idea propose a rotten tomatoes option as an amendment. So if you are to apply a rule of thumb like the one you suggest, you should apply it to the options proposed by the proponent. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/21225.915.893437.489...@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
Hi, On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 01:35:15PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: And, I strongly suggest you trim down both the number of options I will not vote on any GR with more than four options. Note that the number of options on a GR is not necessarily controlled by the proponent. For example, the proponent could propose a GR with four options, but then some people who think the GR was a very bad idea propose a rotten tomatoes option as an amendment. ... and so I will not vote. So if you are to apply a rule of thumb like the one you suggest, you should apply it to the options proposed by the proponent. I do not suggest this as a rule of thumb. It was just a statement that at least I seem to have a mental restriction to decide between more than four options. May be it is just me - I simply wanted to let others know. (Hey for what purpose did people invented the internet other than share your personal point of view. ;-)) Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140129140828.gm25...@an3as.eu
Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
Guillem Jover writes ([Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian): This is the revised draft GR proposal (please see below); I'm looking for sponsors now. I would consider sponsoring a GR, but like others I would like to see the TC vote first. And, I strongly suggest you trim down both the number of options, and the length of the text for each option. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/21223.46636.49434.780...@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
Hi, On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 01:52:44PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: And, I strongly suggest you trim down both the number of options I will not vote on any GR with more than four options. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140128145347.gd19...@an3as.eu
Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
I'd like to raise the objection that the TC hasn't done their job yet, and while the TC has done a great job of getting *true* technically grounded facts out yet, we've not let the process work. Let the TC do their work. They're coming up on a vote, and they may even suggest a GR. This GR is premature. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~paultag `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag/conduct-statement.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 02:42:39PM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: I'd like to raise the objection that the TC hasn't done their job yet, and while the TC has done a great job of getting *true* technically grounded facts out yet, we've not let the process work. Let the TC do their work. They're coming up on a vote, and they may even suggest a GR. This GR is premature. AOL. For both the reason I mentioned in [1] --- which clearly Guillem disagrees with --- and the reason given above by Paul. Cheers. [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00821.html -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . @zack on identi.ca . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club » signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 01/27/2014 08:39 PM, Guillem Jover wrote: This is the revised draft GR proposal (please see below); I'm looking for sponsors now. please stop wasting people's time and let the TC do their work instead. Thanks. - -- Bernd ZeimetzDebian GNU/Linux Developer http://bzed.dehttp://www.debian.org GPG Fingerprint: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS5sJhAAoJEOs2Fxpv+UNfewsP/jxx7hOGao19Ol2Nn6S7lPf7 cWaOtztdKA9hl6hWzOQV0zjUetfGIepMwx44IK1XoXB1bq5aDwoeDln+Wiedwkgf 4XFWdE9pbZWmzS28obYnJeddF/S/aqKPX7L+aO9cV66Mg+I4GmZm1THMUPce0LfM ISA3Qge8MrhYijbmJ/SlaIMXJimdbYG3RXJE9BeCn3Nld7flSsnWGXRvoidt7pVV FrnH18mQrmYLibi13xQOY2i+zPH7Z/BV+xHsRXv+0hA50uhclamNoRW8Lszv3RjB GAsPO/H3XWN8qgKEkqRRCT6kbXbfTw2ezUOKPktu9tOF2qLmjzN8ri6mKg6lLCah DdeqEg5i+JsvSlywo/nyHNsiPyzP8mvMdb+C3TNMLYOY1xXZ7OWMN42dbsz66iEd dtTbmnoRSxhrPRZgqJgoPAvf/qkVj2WMciKEmN/qIPzlQcb4PJvthYIv9EYcdRTL cFg/sYC0ygEgwlXb45tnk6v5wm5PwGfiysDLZlT9ZL8zagIrtGrO4Q1kDwuNzisQ Xh1gQdoi7PByXJjb3c/picpvsih545/J+ziCmGM+2boCpeEudplxBc9txbsvPmlQ AkApsgS7Z+JP0kXNkOFr2qukZFtlZ1RUNC0KwopBJ7rXCeI0Jfibq1xl5FhteaDN /ZTdY2B1QsKm6NcWzbqL =Fvvl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e6c266.8060...@bzed.de
