Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Stephen R Laniel wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:03:59AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Please quit top posting. Here is a script that I banged out in a few minutes, which surely needs much improvement but will hopefully go some way toward making the top-posting debate -- which is surely the least interesting debate in the history of computing -- go away: http://laniels.org/scripts/top_post_fixer.pl.txt I'm not sure that will make it go away: Social problems cannot be solved through technological means. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Floris Bruynooghe wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there are? [...] Otherwise I would like to see what kind of OPERATIONAL difference you have found: There is actually an operational difference. In the about:config page the setting general.useragent.extra.firefox is set to Iceweasel/2.0.0.1. Looks harmless, but it stopped me from logging on to a website. It would only let me in when I set it to Firefox/2.0.0. Might want to let the webmaster know about W3C standards and explain why following them strictly is a better idea than anal-retentive User-Agent string checking, while you're at it. Bonus points if you know the direct email address to that webmaster's boss. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there are? If you miss the firefox logo, and the word firefox in the title bar, then ok, well, run stable. Otherwise I would like to see what kind of OPERATIONAL difference you have found: - you still can fall iceweasel as firefox on the command line - you can browse the web *IN THE EXACT SAME WAY* To be fair, it's not exactly true, because upgrading from firefox to iceweasel in debian means upgrading from version 1.0 or 1.5 to 2.0, and there are substancial changes that some people dislike, myself included. Which means Piotr is actually probably complaining about the fact that iceweasel is not quite the same as firefox used to be on his desktop, but on the other hand, if it were still named firefox, he would have the same opinion. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Piotr Dziubinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no longer firefox in debian etch, so after typing: apt-get install firefox I would like to see announcement: Firefox packages are no longer present in debian distribution, please try iceweasel. Do you see a difference? Yes. Just printing an announcement like that would be a bug in two ways: scripts couldn't parse it and it doesn't explain why Firefox isn't there (MozCorp's copyright+trademark pincer tactic). At present, it says: The following extra packages will be installed: iceweasel I've suggested that iceweasel provides+conflicts+replaces firefox, which AFAICT would instead produce the output: Note, selecting iceweasel instead of firefox [...other stuff about packages...] Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Would that be better, in your opinion? I don't know if it's possible. I think that would require ftpmaster assistance (because it makes firefox a virtual package as I understand it and the previous firefox*deb files may need to be deleted), it may make other tools say even more inaccurate things about the firefox-iceweasel relationship and I don't know whether it would give a smooth upgrade like the near-empty transition package. (From http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/12/msg00111.html ) Regards, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:48:52PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: -- In the west we kill people like chickens. [Agree] [Disagree] No opinion. When I was in the west I didn't see any prople that resembled chickens. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:33:13AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. There is an unofficial Sarge release for amd64. I use it on a couple of servers and many Debian users the unofficial Sarge with no problems. True. But many other AMD64 users had hardware that is too new for sarge. They had to go on to etch. Which works. now. finally. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:02:43PM +, MJ Ray wrote: I've suggested that iceweasel provides+conflicts+replaces firefox, which AFAICT would instead produce the output: Note, selecting iceweasel instead of firefox [...other stuff about packages...] Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Would that be better, in your opinion? I don't know if it's possible. I think that would require ftpmaster assistance (because it makes firefox a virtual package as I understand If it turns firefox into a virtual package, then it cannot be done. The reason is that virtual packages cannot have versioned dependencies expressed against them. In this way, with firefox instead being a dummy package, other packages can continue to express versioned dependencies on firefox and everything still works. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there are? [...] Otherwise I would like to see what kind of OPERATIONAL difference you have found: There is actually an operational difference. In the about:config page the setting general.useragent.extra.firefox is set to Iceweasel/2.0.0.1. Looks harmless, but it stopped me from logging on to a website. It would only let me in when I set it to Firefox/2.0.0. Note: that website lists only Firefox 1.0 on Windows as supported (among a few other proprietary browsers). But this setting made the difference between being able to use it and getting a browser unsported page. I can imagine less technical users being at a loss in a similar situation. Regards Floris -- Debian GNU/Linux -- The Power of Freedom www.debian.org | www.gnu.org | www.kernel.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Please don't top post, we all read English in chronological (not random) order. http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. Command I have used: apt-get install firefox NOT apt-get install iceweasel I knew exactly what I was doing, because my friend told me that there will be no longer firefox in debian, instead of it will be iceweasel, so I was curious what will happen after typing: apt-get install firefox There is no longer firefox in debian etch, so after typing: apt-get install firefox I would like to see announcement: Firefox packages are no longer present in debian distribution, please try iceweasel. Do you see a difference? You could have cancelled and looked into why that is. iceweasel provides firefox because it *is* firefox. There is no functional difference between firefox and iceweasel. You're making a mountain out of a molehill. I don't use aptitude, because I prefer command line. Aptitude can be used from the command line instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:11:26AM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Answers: Etch apt-get I was informed by apt-get that Iceweasel package will be installed, but I wasn't informed that instead of Firefox and it is a problem! If I would like to uninstall (even current version of) Firefox I would do it myself. So, you are running the *testing* distribution, you perform an 'apt-get upgrade', it decides it wants to install *new* packages and you proceed *blindly* without investigating *why* the new package was being installed? I'm sorry, but it seems like you did this to yourself. Had you bothered to run and 'apt-cache show iceweasel', you would have seen what was going on. Had you been running aptitude, which has been the preferred and better supported package manager for Debian since the release of Sarge, you would have seen by simply highlighting the iceweasel package that it was being installed because firefox depended on it. I'll say again, you did this to yourself and your initial flame against everyone was highly uncalled for. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. There is an unofficial Sarge release for amd64. I use it on a couple of servers and many Debian users the unofficial Sarge with no problems. Command I have used: apt-get install firefox NOT apt-get install iceweasel I knew exactly what I was doing, because my friend told me that there will be no longer firefox in debian, instead of it will be iceweasel, so I was curious what will happen after typing: ^^^ Hmm. apt-get install firefox There is no longer firefox in debian etch, so after typing: apt-get install firefox I would like to see announcement: Firefox packages are no longer present in debian distribution, please try iceweasel. OK. Here are the announcements: http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/debian-news-2006/msg00044.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/12/msg00328.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/10/msg00665.html The debian-news item is from mid-October of 2006. There was also Lots of discussion about it on various Debian mailing lists. Do you see a difference? Nope. I don't use aptitude, because I prefer command line. OK. Then 'aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade' will work just the same. Of course, it won't tell you *why* since you are not in the aptitude browser, but aptitude works on the command line just like apt-get and keeps better track of things to boot. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. Command I have used: apt-get install firefox NOT apt-get install iceweasel I knew exactly what I was doing, because my friend told me that there will be no longer firefox in debian, instead of it will be iceweasel, so I was curious what will happen after typing: apt-get install firefox There is no longer firefox in debian etch, so after typing: apt-get install firefox I would like to see announcement: Firefox packages are no longer present in debian distribution, please try iceweasel. Do you see a difference? I don't use aptitude, because I prefer command line. On 1/27/07, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:11:26AM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Answers: Etch apt-get I was informed by apt-get that Iceweasel package will be installed, but I wasn't informed that instead of Firefox and it is a problem! If I would like to uninstall (even current version of) Firefox I would do it myself. So, you are running the *testing* distribution, you perform an 'apt-get upgrade', it decides it wants to install *new* packages and you proceed *blindly* without investigating *why* the new package was being installed? I'm sorry, but it seems like you did this to yourself. Had you bothered to run and 'apt-cache show iceweasel', you would have seen what was going on. Had you been running aptitude, which has been the preferred and better supported package manager for Debian since the release of Sarge, you would have seen by simply highlighting the iceweasel package that it was being installed because firefox depended on it. I'll say again, you did this to yourself and your initial flame against everyone was highly uncalled for. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFu2E35SXWIKfIlGQRArH6AJ9CBMcLt8QfBP9U/SOAZ1wPeiQbvgCaA9cX PtdSg8MtZxYGjxKkvnplV14= =cuhG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Piotr Dziubinski
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Please quit top posting. On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 04:52:29PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. So I think that debian should no longer use firefox as a name for iceweasel package! Except that the release managers and package maintainers don't want to leave their users without an upgrade path. They felt that Iceweasel was natural upgrade path. I must say that I agree with that since it is effectively the same thing as Firefox, but rebranded and with a couple of non-free bits removed. I think that automatically upgrading people to Iceweasel is better than leaving the stagnant Firefox package since: - The security team can't support - Debian is not allowed to continue redistributing - People may not know to go looking for it I will give you an example: You are typing: aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade and after that you realize that you have no longer debian, but knoppix or ubuntu... ups... they are very similar you can say, but did you want to change your debian to ubuntu? I think: no! What you are saying does not make sense. Debian - Knoppix and Debian - Ubuntu are not natural upgrade paths for many reasons. Be realist, do everybody have a time to read all news carefully? No, but you said all you wanted was an announcement. I gave you three. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. So I think that debian should no longer use firefox as a name for iceweasel package! I will give you an example: You are typing: aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade and after that you realize that you have no longer debian, but knoppix or ubuntu... ups... they are very similar you can say, but did you want to change your debian to ubuntu? I think: no! Be realist, do everybody have a time to read all news carefully? On 1/27/07, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. There is an unofficial Sarge release for amd64. I use it on a couple of servers and many Debian users the unofficial Sarge with no problems. Command I have used: apt-get install firefox NOT apt-get install iceweasel I knew exactly what I was doing, because my friend told me that there will be no longer firefox in debian, instead of it will be iceweasel, so I was curious what will happen after typing: ^^^ Hmm. apt-get install firefox There is no longer firefox in debian etch, so after typing: apt-get install firefox I would like to see announcement: Firefox packages are no longer present in debian distribution, please try iceweasel. OK. Here are the announcements: http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/debian-news-2006/msg00044.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/12/msg00328.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/10/msg00665.html The debian-news item is from mid-October of 2006. There was also Lots of discussion about it on various Debian mailing lists. Do you see a difference? Nope. I don't use aptitude, because I prefer command line. OK. Then 'aptitude update aptitude dist-upgrade' will work just the same. Of course, it won't tell you *why* since you are not in the aptitude browser, but aptitude works on the command line just like apt-get and keeps better track of things to boot. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFu3C55SXWIKfIlGQRAhEQAKCjC3GUFRH9C8M9tFrNUSblEYj/hgCdE2uH YRi6LtPWrJtO9pdOg8Vxx14= =jVhV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Piotr Dziubinski
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:03:59AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Please quit top posting. Here is a script that I banged out in a few minutes, which surely needs much improvement but will hopefully go some way toward making the top-posting debate -- which is surely the least interesting debate in the history of computing -- go away: http://laniels.org/scripts/top_post_fixer.pl.txt This will tag all the lines in a given message by whether they're raw line or one containing a quote. It's primitive, but hopefully it's enough of a start that someone can expand upon it and end the spectacularly stupid debate. -- Stephen R. Laniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels.org/ PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:43:59AM -0500, Stephen R Laniel wrote: Here is a script that I banged out in a few minutes, which surely needs much improvement but will hopefully go some way toward making the top-posting debate -- which is surely the least interesting debate in the history of computing -- go away: http://laniels.org/scripts/top_post_fixer.pl.txt This will tag all the lines in a given message by whether they're raw line or one containing a quote. It's primitive, but hopefully it's enough of a start that someone can expand upon it and end the spectacularly stupid debate. That is neat, but it does nothing for the list archived. Arguably, the problem is not severe there, though. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there are? If you miss the firefox logo, and the word firefox in the title bar, then ok, well, run stable. Otherwise I would like to see what kind of OPERATIONAL difference you have found: - you still can fall iceweasel as firefox on the command line - you can browse the web *IN THE EXACT SAME WAY* So what is the difference that started to make you angry? Do you know that what has happend with firefox/iceweasel you probably have experiences hundred of times WITHOUT EVEN REALISING?? New packages which override others are created permanently, and the old packages go into transitional state where they ask only for the new ones. BTW: WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING If you have currently tetex-* on your computer, you will soon miss it probably, but there will be texlive there ... But with the same (or better) functionality. So please stop whining about something which is happening permanently and *makes sense*, and either go to stable, or live with it. And if you are s desperate to have the firefox logo, just download ot from www.mozilla.org and put it on you desktop background. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Università di Siena Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- GLAZELEY (adj.) The state of a barrister's flat greasy hair after wearing a wig all day. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: Otherwise I would like to see what kind of OPERATIONAL difference you have found: - you still can fall iceweasel as firefox on the command line - you can browse the web *IN THE EXACT SAME WAY* You can even use the same extensions. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Piotr Dziubinski: Oki, I can install my favorite Firefox from other packages, but do you realize, that I would like to be asked if I want to use this f..u...k...ng %^*( *##$$ ^^% Iceweasle instead of Firefox? Nice flamebait. Good luck! :) J. -- In the west we kill people like chickens. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:20:00PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind! After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer present in my operating system! Instead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle. F.u...k, #%[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5^%^*(@ %$$%^$ Urm, you do realize that Iceweasel *IS* Firefox, right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 23:20 +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind! After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer present in my operating system! Instead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle. F.u...k, #%[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5^%^*(@ %$$%^$ Oki, I can install my favorite Firefox from other packages, but do you realize, that I would like to be asked if I want to use this f..u...k...ng %^*( *##$$ ^^% Iceweasle instead of Firefox? Good luck with using losers... ups I mean: losing users! :P Ah! A genuine Vulgarian! What a pleasant surprise! I predict many friends in your future.. ($100 please.) HAND, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:44:13AM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: I'm irritated cause I expect that operating system will ask me about such kind of changes. It is a reason why I have started to use Linux. I want to have complete control in all changes made in my operating system. As You mentioned, Iceweasel isn't real Firefox. If I knew that upgrade of Firefox, would change my Firefox into Iceweasel, Ihttp://www.google.pl/search?hl=plclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialhs=P3usa=Xoi=spellresnum=0ct=resultcd=1q=wouldn%27tspell=1wouldn't do it! Out of curiousity, how did you not realize that Iceweasel was going to get installed? Do you not pay attention to what packages are to be installed on your system? You are running Etch or Sid, correct? You do realize that they are not stable and subject to volatile changes at times. Correct? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Iceweasel *IS* Firefox. Only the name changed because of legal disputes. If you want, you can probably start reading about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceWeasel#More_Debian-related_controversy What you might have experienced is the upgrade from Firefox 1.5 to Firefox 2.0 (roughly at the time the Iceweasel name came into play) , which some users felt was a step back. On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 00:44 +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: I'm irritated cause I expect that operating system will ask me about such kind of changes. It is a reason why I have started to use Linux. I want to have complete control in all changes made in my operating system. As You mentioned, Iceweasel isn't real Firefox. If I knew that upgrade of Firefox, would change my Firefox into Iceweasel, I wouldn't do it! Dziubo -- Leo Antunes [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
Answers: Etch apt-get I was informed by apt-get that Iceweasel package will be installed, but I wasn't informed that instead of Firefox and it is a problem! If I would like to uninstall (even current version of) Firefox I would do it myself. Out of curiousity, how did you not realize that Iceweasel was going to get installed? Do you not pay attention to what packages are to be installed on your system? You are running Etch or Sid, correct? You do realize that they are not stable and subject to volatile changes at times. Correct? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFupS61snWssAFC08RApfDAJ9d4KqhhaD/GqFJG8ccWcireZew2wCfb9ia W89e0e+iPU5CTIwdy2buXok= =v9cd -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
26-01-2007, Piotr Dziubinski пишет: [] Hi, Pete. I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind! Poor man ;) Seriously, i've had enough from mozilla/firefox long ago: screen, lynx, slrn, mutt are my friends. See? No hands... ups X Window, it's magic! Ex-Debian user... ... back to the Gentoo Farewell. --=_Part_37477_14195182.116985293 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I#39;m very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why?brbrI#39;ve used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I#39;ve been using Debian for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind!brbrAfter updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer present in my operating system! brInstead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle.brF.u...k, #%amp;[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5^%^*(@ %$amp;$%amp;^$brbrOki, I can install my favorite Firefox from other packages, but do you realize, that I would like to be asked if I want to use this f..u...k...ng %^*( *amp;##$$ ^amp;^%amp; Iceweasle instead of Firefox? brbrGood luck with using losers... ups I mean: losing users! :PbrbrEx-Debian user...br... back to the Gentoobr --=_Part_37477_14195182.116985293-- Thanks for nice copy of sh1t. Good bye. -- -o--=O`C info emacs : not found /. .\ ( is there any reason to live? ) #oo'L O info make : not found o (yes --- R.I.P. FSF+RMS) ___=E M man gcc: not found`-- ( viva Debian Operating System ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
