Re: Finding sponsors for Debian
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:46:13PM +0100, Arno Töll wrote:
We sponsored both, Debian and DebConf in the past but my boss does not
feel very comfortable to sponsor DebConfs because he's more interested
to support actual Debian work as a distribution, as Debian is the
system we rely upon for our business. I find that understandable from
an outsider's point of view as he'd like to show his appreciation for
a rock stable distribution with great tools in the first place.
How about the Sprint page I've mentioned in my previous reply? I know
that it has worked well for other $companies, but it'd be useful to know
if your $company find that convincing or not. If they don't, it would be
helpful if you can share your impressions on why they don't.
Cheers.
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Re: Visible results from sponsor funds [Re: Finding sponsors for Debian]
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:04:34PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
It would probably be useful to have a single location in the w.d.o
hierarchy which listed recent money expenditures by the project, with
links to announcements and blog posts or similar. [And in the case of
hardware, pictures of the hardware or similar.] (Maybe one already
exists and I don't know about it?)
Cc:'ing to -www for comment.
As briefly discussed on IRC with Don: the auditors already plan to
periodically publish money reports in a specific www.d.o section.
What is missing, though, is cross referencing with visual clues that
*show* work being done with donated money. We are quite good at that for
DebConf, with the final report, but we don't do that for other events
like sprints or, why not, machine installations / replacement.
Cheers.
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Re: Finding sponsors for Debian
Hi, On Montag, 12. März 2012, Arno Töll wrote: We sponsored both, Debian and DebConf in the past but my boss does not feel very comfortable to sponsor DebConfs because he's more interested to support actual Debian work as a distribution, as Debian is the system we rely upon for our business. I think that means we failed to communicate (well enough) that sponsoring DebConf, the conf, _means_ sponsoring Debian, the distribution. Arno, maybe you can show your boss the (pretty short and pretty pretty pretty) article Stefano wrote about this in the DebConf11 final report, right the first one here: http://media.debconf.org/dc11/report/DebConf11_FinalReport.pdf But I've learned that we need to communicate this a whole lot better. Ideas how? cheers, Holger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201203131013.39262.hol...@layer-acht.org
Re: Finding sponsors for Debian
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:13:38AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: But I've learned that we need to communicate this a whole lot better. Ideas how ... would be best directed to debian-project :) Neil -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? gpg key - http://www.halon.org.uk/pubkey.txt ; the.earth.li A40F862E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120313091739.gk...@feta.halon.org.uk
Re: Finding sponsors for Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, On 12.03.2012 19:25, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:16:42AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Over the years, I've always been very surprised to see that there's very little money that Debian is able to get. I'm convinced that this situation could change with a bit of involvement from the DPL, and that such money could help a lot the project. For example, sending open letters to big companies, and letting them know that we do accept monetary contributions could help. Let me start by observing the obvious: attracting money is not a goal per se; Putting them into good use for Debian is. According to my DPL experience, we have two main chapters in Debian budget: travel sponsoring and hardware replacement. (cc:-ing -project as that's a more general discussion not directly directed to DPL candidates but related. Maybe follow-ups should be sent there) as somebody who pushed $work to donate money to Debian (i.e. via FFIS), I always wondered about the financial merits of these donations. As much as I am involved to work within Debian, I have no clue what you used our money for. I am probably not literally interested what for you spent the money we donated, but I think sponsors would appreciate or be more interested to donate if they could see in a more popular advertisement what Debian spends money for (i.e. something more handsome than SPI board minutes) and possibly getting little thank you post cards or some merchandise (e.g. a coffee mug or a T-Shirt) as a symbolic acknowledgement of gratidude. Actually, $boss asked me the other day how to support Debian better as he wasn't very convinced about usefulness of money donations to Debian as he didn't get much feedback about that, other than a tax deductable receipt. - -- with kind regards, Arno Töll IRC: daemonkeeper on Freenode/OFTC GnuPG Key-ID: 0x9D80F36D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPXmK9AAoJEMcrUe6dgPNtby8P/0rYaGjV7p1yaCplMS3z3LCV +0/k8DtEb+UZO2aJ9glw54Rn9JO0NVnyHZGiKPG6oPJ0IR4G6ZXscPxk3aqk9zh+ plXQjtdtMbZ/XrFKMaLNH3d2KnIxv1gIwAj6GLtG3Op28XF7YDZLxi5viBJlY8F/ EnPL5wWQ9Bdytj5BIK9uZkLswCT9EvYGUmJ9Tfc0ONfj77/DvMh3/t/fZvXEPqDI n1UuXUwnE7h+wj9JCJ1Pc3qoZrzAqVZfzbzJdXZVjeaVDXqmTqE+Z5Sz5mo1W6Tl olhohuQRMUTnbAfj9if5rFqg98QlsW9GT9mrnnPJIsp7NAfuAE58bSnE/DNU+JAd XO06dqKGXWgdULIeRoKOWlti/dqfBREb0WP8zloNACxy1ksyJ8Da3hegV7X26Sb/ 4ZvNEHOmSDOgrOp/PoPW7H59O9QE3f8jDIVZ3VgzYIdu65VpN0II+G7szHtKqsl6 02C/0J0Pj+DuEz9Lo/voscm/CuM8/gXTkAXuG4Kd0wCWvDYYytz++jXqyq0PZabl ArWctC2N9JSwnpSnInuxiZw2MJarFOd06PXDsAqPimaSPRUz9PDRhVhrpD6xD8Ht KzsEFbOTCyUWBTeFMNFwH4vYoEJlZexC8B6fis+lSMjGMvhz5a1y2Dox3MX2SXPF e2Iwf3EJKcTkIJrzXL9r =sflz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f5e62bd.9060...@toell.net
Re: Finding sponsors for Debian
Arno Töll wrote: as somebody who pushed $work to donate money to Debian (i.e. via FFIS), I always wondered about the financial merits of these donations. As much as I am involved to work within Debian, I have no clue what you used our money for. I am probably not literally interested what for you spent the money we donated, but I think sponsors would appreciate or be more interested to donate if they could see in a more popular advertisement what Debian spends money for (i.e. something more handsome than SPI board minutes) and possibly getting little thank you post cards or some merchandise (e.g. a coffee mug or a T-Shirt) as a symbolic acknowledgement of gratidude. Here are some hints: http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2010/msg4.html http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090208 There are probably more if one searches more. Regards, Joey -- If nothing changes, everything will remain the same. -- Barne's Law -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120312213527.gi2...@finlandia.home.infodrom.org
Visible results from sponsor funds [Re: Finding sponsors for Debian]
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Arno Töll wrote: Actually, $boss asked me the other day how to support Debian better as he wasn't very convinced about usefulness of money donations to Debian as he didn't get much feedback about that, other than a tax deductable receipt. It would probably be useful to have a single location in the w.d.o hierarchy which listed recent money expenditures by the project, with links to announcements and blog posts or similar. [And in the case of hardware, pictures of the hardware or similar.] (Maybe one already exists and I don't know about it?) Cc:'ing to -www for comment. Don Armstrong -- He was wrong. Nature abhors dimensional abnormalities, and seals them neatly away so that they don't upset people. Nature, in fact, abhors a lot of things, including vacuums, ships called the Marie Celeste, and the chuck keys for electric drills. -- Terry Pratchet _Pyramids_ p166 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120312220434.gv9...@rzlab.ucr.edu
