Re: Gnome3 :s
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 04:24:42AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 09:19 +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: (I think GNOME Shell is awesome too, BTW. I just don’t have the hardware to run it.) Hmmm, I think Debian should get you a new GPU that you can use for testing GNOME 3, especially if it is supported by the free drivers. Seriously, I can afford a new GPU if needed. And actually I just tried again, and with the latest radeon driver it is still slow, but usable now. (Which is consistent with the fact some GNOME developers have exactly the same GPU.) What exactly is slow on your system? I'm using Gnome3 (with gnome shell) and it works pretty well. But then, it's not using many effects, is it? At least I don't see the compiz-like bubbling windows or anything. Am I missing something here? Or is my hardware just to good? :P Hauke -- .''`. Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org www.jhr-online.de : :' : Debian Developer www.debian.org `. `'` Member of the Linux Foundationwww.linux.com `- Fellow of the Free Software Foundation Europe www.fsfe.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Gnome3 :s
Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 08:31 +0200, Jan Hauke Rahm a écrit : And actually I just tried again, and with the latest radeon driver it is still slow, but usable now. (Which is consistent with the fact some GNOME developers have exactly the same GPU.) What exactly is slow on your system? I'm using Gnome3 (with gnome shell) and it works pretty well. But then, it's not using many effects, is it? At least I don't see the compiz-like bubbling windows or anything. Am I missing something here? Or is my hardware just to good? :P My hardware (the RS690) is a bastard architecture for which the drivers don’t do a very good job, that’s all. Most hardware should be more than enough to run GNOME Shell, and eventually it may even work in software rendering with llvmpipe. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1315984449.3239.1.camel@pi0307572
Re: Gnome3 :s
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 09:14:09AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 08:31 +0200, Jan Hauke Rahm a écrit : And actually I just tried again, and with the latest radeon driver it is still slow, but usable now. (Which is consistent with the fact some GNOME developers have exactly the same GPU.) What exactly is slow on your system? I'm using Gnome3 (with gnome shell) and it works pretty well. But then, it's not using many effects, is it? At least I don't see the compiz-like bubbling windows or anything. Am I missing something here? Or is my hardware just to good? :P My hardware (the RS690) is a bastard architecture for which the drivers don’t do a very good job, that’s all. Most hardware should be more than enough to run GNOME Shell, and eventually it may even work in software rendering with llvmpipe. I see. Thanks for the explanation. Hauke -- .''`. Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org www.jhr-online.de : :' : Debian Developer www.debian.org `. `'` Member of the Linux Foundationwww.linux.com `- Fellow of the Free Software Foundation Europe www.fsfe.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Gnome3 :s
Hi, On 13/09/2011 14:45, Pontus Andersson wrote: I was just wondering if Debian some day will switch to gnome 3 as default desktop. I beg you not to. Seeing all the other popular gnome distros changing to gnome 3 makes me really nervous that Debian is next. I really like the gnome 2 desktop and I wich you to keep supporting it as the default desktop environment. The new gnome 3 and also the unity desktop is not suited for desktop use. Gnome Debian Maintainers already expressed their opinion on this specific question. You can read [1] and [2] to have an idea on their plan. They might be better references to cite out there, but can't find any other right now. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/06/msg00023.html [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/04/msg00023.html Kind regards, -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6f582...@dogguy.org
Re: Gnome3 :s
Le mardi 13 septembre 2011 à 15:18 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy a écrit : Gnome Debian Maintainers already expressed their opinion on this specific question. You can read [1] and [2] to have an idea on their plan. They might be better references to cite out there, but can't find any other right now. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/06/msg00023.html [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/04/msg00023.html I don’t have much to add. I’m using the fallback GNOME session daily; I’ve made it available as a specific session in GDM in the Debian packages. It’s awesome and fixes a lot of bugs that used to be in GNOME 2. (I think GNOME Shell is awesome too, BTW. I just don’t have the hardware to run it.) -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' `- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Gnome3 :s
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: (I think GNOME Shell is awesome too, BTW. I just don’t have the hardware to run it.) Hmmm, I think Debian should get you a new GPU that you can use for testing GNOME 3, especially if it is supported by the free drivers. I have tested GNOME 3 a couple of months ago with the nouveau drivers on a year old nVidia desktop GPU and was pleasantly surprised that it worked pretty well. There was one glitch with the menu turning white, but I guess that was a driver issue that may be fixed in the meantime. CCing the DPL, I think this fits under here: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/AskingForMoney#Suitable_Money_Requests -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caktje6h66w8p9t4ctpm0duj_hpm_pv5nfberwl0wcdbnejb...@mail.gmail.com
