Re: How about using moderation as a delay system for bad threads?
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, at 15:43, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Hi, > >> (adding listmaster to Cc: as I don't know how flexible our mailing list >> software would be) >> >> The OSM foundation seems to have a feature in its mailing list software, >> where, in contentious situations (e.g. during board elections campaigning >> periods), posters are throttled to one message every 24 hours. >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2021-December/008248.html >> >> At the time, it seemed to me like an interesting idea that we could be >> experimenting with to keep flamewars somewhat more contained. > You are a bit too late, we have such a system for one or two decades. Thanks for pointing it out, this is useful to know. Is this documented somewhere that I c/should have found ? > We can throttle mails down based on everything procmail can choose. We usually > do this from time to time to throttle down threads based on subject. Ack. I must admit I've stopped being familiar with procmail for a while. Could you confirm that enacting a limit of 1 message per sender per day on a given mailing list (or thread) would be doable without too much extra development? Is this something that you would consider doing if the Community Team, or DAM, or other members of the project, were to ask for it? Thanks again for your work as listmaster, -- Nicolas Dandrimont
Re: How about using moderation as a delay system for bad threads?
Hi, > (adding listmaster to Cc: as I don't know how flexible our mailing list > software would be) > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, at 00:10, Charles Plessy wrote: > > How about we make that a feature and introduce a delay of a couple of > > hours between all messages in threads like this one ? > > The OSM foundation seems to have a feature in its mailing list software, > where, in contentious situations (e.g. during board elections campaigning > periods), posters are throttled to one message every 24 hours. > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2021-December/008248.html > > At the time, it seemed to me like an interesting idea that we could be > experimenting with to keep flamewars somewhat more contained. You are a bit too late, we have such a system for one or two decades. We can throttle mails down based on everything procmail can choose. We usually do this from time to time to throttle down threads based on subject. Alex signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How about using moderation as a delay system for bad threads?
Hi, (adding listmaster to Cc: as I don't know how flexible our mailing list software would be) On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, at 00:10, Charles Plessy wrote: > How about we make that a feature and introduce a delay of a couple of > hours between all messages in threads like this one ? The OSM foundation seems to have a feature in its mailing list software, where, in contentious situations (e.g. during board elections campaigning periods), posters are throttled to one message every 24 hours. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2021-December/008248.html At the time, it seemed to me like an interesting idea that we could be experimenting with to keep flamewars somewhat more contained. Cheers, -- Nicolas Dandrimont
Re: How about using moderation as a delay system for bad threads? (Re: A quiet reminder: please be considerate.)
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 08:10:39AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hello, > > Le Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 11:54:02AM +, Steve McIntyre a écrit : > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 09:09:20AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > > > > >Unless I've misunderstood completely, we do not judge the content of the > > >messages, except that we filter out very obviously abusive trolling that > > >the list was suffering prior to moderation, and obviously drop > > >SPAM/Phishing/etc. if we see it. > > > > Agreed, that's exactly the policy. It just takes more time to check > > more messages, and I think that's all that Andy was suggesting. > > How about we make that a feature and introduce a delay of a couple of > hours between all messages in threads like this one ? This sounds seducing. What I don't like about it is that it is somewhat manipulative. Cheers & nice week-end too :) -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
