Re: Recruitment of young contributors (Re: Young people and computers)
Hi, On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:16:41AM +, Moray Allan wrote: On 2013-02-09 21:46, Filipus Klutiero wrote: [..] and the only data above simply shows the age of members. The graph is nice, but it doesn't show the age of members at the time they are recruited, and even less how that age changes with time. If we actually have such data, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one to appreciate. I agree that it would be more interesting to see a graph of the average age of new DDs over time. It ought to be possible to get an approximation of that by merging birthday data from db.debian.org with joining date data from nm.debian.org, though both of those data sets are incomplete. Without the numbers, my impression, shared with others, is that the age of new DDs has increased somewhat, as well as the average age of DDs increasing just from DDs getting older (but not quickly retiring from Debian). http://people.debian.org/~spaillard/developers-age-histogramm/ actually also contains historical data. Fortunately, it also shows the average age increases slower than time: over 2012 (12 months so), average age increased by 2.7 months only. Consider the figures below with caution, as it's computed from rounded to year data, hence the big jump at year transition. 2010-04-11 mean = 33.1036 2011-03-19 mean = 34.0884 2011-05-13 mean = 34.0711 2011-06-01 mean = 34.107 2011-07-01 mean = 34.107 2011-08-01 mean = 34.0982 2011-09-01 mean = 34.0963 2011-10-01 mean = 34.0879 2011-11-01 mean = 34.1322 2011-12-01 mean = 34.112 2012-01-01 mean = 35.1168 2012-02-01 mean = 35.0846 2012-03-01 mean = 35.1131 2012-04-01 mean = 35.0561 2012-05-01 mean = 35.0864 2012-06-01 mean = 35.0668 2012-07-01 mean = 35.0569 2012-08-01 mean = 35.052 2012-09-01 mean = 34.9782 2012-10-01 mean = 34.969 2012-11-01 mean = 34.9706 2012-12-01 mean = 34.8928 2013-01-01 mean = 35.8746 2013-02-01 mean = 35.8918 -- Simon Paillard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130218092617.gk17...@glenfiddich.mraw.org
Re: Recruitment of young contributors (Re: Young people and computers)
On 2013-02-18 09:26, Simon Paillard wrote: On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:16:41AM +, Moray Allan wrote: Without the numbers, my impression, shared with others, is that the age of new DDs has increased somewhat, as well as the average age of DDs increasing just from DDs getting older (but not quickly retiring from Debian). http://people.debian.org/~spaillard/developers-age-histogramm/ actually also contains historical data. Right, but only back to March 2011, and one entry for 2010. I was thinking of a rather longer time-frame here. https://nm.debian.org/public/people mostly shows data back to 2000, which would be long enough to be interesting. -- Moray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a8c841d6bc9559283872088eefd62...@www.morayallan.com
Re: Recruitment of young contributors (Re: Young people and computers)
On 2013-02-09 21:46, Filipus Klutiero wrote: How much of what? Your question may be interesting, but I don't know what discussion you're referring to Yes, it wasn't somewhere publicly archived -- that's why I thought it interesting to provide a summary. and the only data above simply shows the age of members. The graph is nice, but it doesn't show the age of members at the time they are recruited, and even less how that age changes with time. If we actually have such data, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one to appreciate. I agree that it would be more interesting to see a graph of the average age of new DDs over time. It ought to be possible to get an approximation of that by merging birthday data from db.debian.org with joining date data from nm.debian.org, though both of those data sets are incomplete. Without the numbers, my impression, shared with others, is that the age of new DDs has increased somewhat, as well as the average age of DDs increasing just from DDs getting older (but not quickly retiring from Debian). -- Moray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/7df4bce7897e293cb1485d2765010...@www.morayallan.com