Re: non-financial donations (was: call for help: partners program)

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Paul Wise p...@debian.org [2015-03-16 12:52 +0100]:
 Re financial donations, I'd personally like to see more focus on
 something like having 20k or more individuals donating $10 a year
 and most of them listed on contributors.d.o, as opposed to turning
 Debian into more of an advertising organisation, which seems to be
 the end of the spectrum we are headed towards.

I don't think Debian should become an advertising organisation.
We have identified some ways in which we could use money that IMHO
requires a cash flow. So I am merely advocating finding ways of
generating that cash flow based on our product and brand, without
losing the soul.

The problem with 20k × $10 / year is collection. We can let Paypal
do this, but I am sure we would find people strongly opposed to
Paypal here. But we'd need to use such a provider, working globally,
but then you are looking at losing 5–10% of those funds to them.

Anyway, the two are not at all in disagreement. Someone giving $10
to Debian every year should be treated with the same diligence as
someone giving 20k, especially since the $10 are likely to be
a larger cut of their budget than 20k for BigCorp.

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Re: non-financial donations (was: call for help: partners program)

[Paul Wise]

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 6:33 PM, martin f krafft wrote:

 If Debian had a wishlist, we could let partners join by donating
 hardware on this list — until the need is higher and we cannot wait
 and have to buy the hardware ourselves, so this would need to be
 actively managed.

We have a hardware wishlist but there is nothing on it yet and no-one
replied to my calls for adding things to it (on IRC, d-d-a).

https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Wanted
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg4.html

The previous hardware wishlist became obsolete because it was
writeable only by the web team.

There is also the DSA wishlist but half of it is obsolete since zack
created sources.d.n.

https://dsa.debian.org/hardware-wishlist/

Looking at my hardware-donations@d.o archive, we've been offered
mostly hardware that we can't use for one reason or another; out of
warranty, too slow/ancient, donor didn't follow-up with suggestion to
contact porters or we had no use for them. So far only one of eight
has been accepted and that was from the manufacturer and was very new
hardware.

IIRC, the partners program was meant for continuous support every year
like supplying machines as-needed for port X rather than one-off
donations.

Re financial donations, I'd personally like to see more focus on
something like having 20k or more individuals donating $10 a year and
most of them listed on contributors.d.o, as opposed to turning Debian
into more of an advertising organisation, which seems to be the end of
the spectrum we are headed towards.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise


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