Re: Supported or Certified Hardware
* Mike Houle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-02 14:04]: I am a QA engineer at Sun Microsystems and have been tasked with looking into supporting Debian on some of our systems. Many other OS vendors have a certification program for hardware and systems, where a series of tests are run and upon completion, the system/hardware is posted to a list of certified hardware for that OS. Is there any such program for Debian? We don't have such a program. However, it would be great if you could work with our debian-installer and kernel teams to make sure that Sun's hardware is supported. That work would involve testing daily images of the debian-installer and reporting issues to the debian-boot mailing list; see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ for some links. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supported or Certified Hardware
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Mike Houle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-02 14:04]: I am a QA engineer at Sun Microsystems and have been tasked with looking into supporting Debian on some of our systems. Many other OS vendors have a certification program for hardware and systems, where a series of tests are run and upon completion, the system/hardware is posted to a list of certified hardware for that OS. Is there any such program for Debian? We don't have such a program. However, it would be great if you could work with our debian-installer and kernel teams to make sure that Sun's hardware is supported. That work would involve testing daily images of the debian-installer and reporting issues to the debian-boot mailing list; see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ for some links. Note that the images are created daily but they don't have to be tested daily. :-) The best is to test several times through the development cycle and particularly important is to test when we release release candidate of the installer in order to make sure that your hardware is supported in the next stable Debian release. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Premier livre français sur Debian GNU/Linux : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supported or Certified Hardware
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:04:34PM -0400, Mike Houle wrote: [Reformatted to remove HTML] Hi, I am a QA engineer at Sun Microsystems and have been tasked with looking into supporting Debian on some of our systems. Many other OS vendors have a certification program for hardware and systems, where a series of tests are run and upon completion, the system/hardware is posted to a list of certified hardware for that OS. Is there any such program for Debian? Speaking purely as my opinion - and not necessarily on the part of the project or the Sparc port developers :) No, not as such. Debian is an association of volunteer developers and our OS is supported by volunteers. Debian prides itself on running Linux kernels on a wide variety of hardware - from supercomputers to PDAs to network attached storage devices - and on maintaining application ports to eleven or twelve machine architectures. You can run an entire distribution on Sun / Alpha / Intel 32 bit / AMD/Intel 64 bit with barely a change. (We're currently having difficulty supporting some of the older 32 bit Sun machines beyond the current Debian stable - but that's as much a function of kernel support and lack of older machines as anything. It's possibly the same if you want to get Solaris 10 onto a Sun Sparc 20 at this point.) Rash generalisation Debian should run on newer Sun Sparc and Intel/AMD processor-based hardware with no particular difficulty: because there is no Debian hardware bias/particular commercial axe to grind in favour of one hardware vendor or another, there should be no business interests obstacles. /Rash If so, can someone please provide me with information or a contact to get involved in this process? If there isn't a process for certification, is there anywhere that a list of supported hardware exists, and how could a systems vendor get their products on this list? I would like to learn more about what certification program, if any, exists, and what it would require to certify systems for Debian We don't normally do Certified to run Debian stickers - if someone has hardware that looks interesting and can loan us some, there's likely to be a Debian port if enough people are interested. IBM loaned time on an s390, HP have loaned time, employed Debian developers on staff and helped Debian with donations to help maintain the ports for HP-PA and Itanium architectures. Since Debian isn't in the business of selling boxed sets / commercial support / industry partnerships with competing OS vendors / middleware, training or applications we don't have the pressure of being a vendor per se - but we do support our users - they, in turn may come to Sun to say I'm thinking of running Debian on Sun hardware - do _you_ support Debian on your hardware. As far as I can see, this is exactly the line that HP are now taking - they will support Debian on HP hardware in some configurations and will supply help to get it installed - they've self certified because the customer demand is there and HP have accepted that the support burden for Debian on their hardware is feasible for them, given that they also support other Linuxes. Dell, by contrast, have taken the initial tentative step of partnering with a commercial Debian derivative, providing a minimal level of it works on our hardware certification and effectively passing support burden on to Canonical - at least in the short term. Mike Mike Houle OS Certification Lead Global Design Group All the best, Andy [Possibly better to follow this up on the general debian-devel mailing list for Debian developers or the specific debian-sparc list - see the main Debian page for mailing list subscription instructions.] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Supported or Certified Hardware
Hi, I am a QA engineer at Sun Microsystems and have been tasked with looking into supporting Debian on some of our systems. Many other OS vendors have a certification program for hardware and systems, where a series of tests are run and upon completion, the system/hardware is posted to a list of certified hardware for that OS. Is there any such program for Debian? If so, can someone please provide me with information or a contact to get involved in this process? If there isn't a process for certification, is there anywhere that a list of "supported" hardware exists, and how could a systems vendor get their products on this list? I would like to learn more about what certification program, if any, exists, and what it would require to certify systems for Debian. Thanks for the help, Mike -- Mike Houle OS Certification Lead Global Design Group Sun Microsystems, Inc. One Network Drive Burlington, MA 01803 (781) 442-3170, x23170 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supported or Certified Hardware
I am a QA engineer at Sun Microsystems and have been tasked with looking into supporting Debian on some of our systems. Many other OS vendors have a certification program for hardware and systems, where a series of tests are run and upon completion, the system/hardware is posted to a list of “certified hardware” for that OS. Is there any such program for Debian? No If so, can someone please provide me with information or a contact to get involved in this process? If there isn't a process for certification, is there anywhere that a list of supported hardware exists, and how could a systems vendor get their products on this list? No. Users use support lists of upstream software, so there's nothing Debian-specific that can be done. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
