Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hey folks, We called our main installer images distribution site cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time: * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!) So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-) Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name. Thanks for all the excellent suggestions folks! As announced at the Debian-CD BoF lat last week, I've made the decision to go with *drumroll* ... get.debian.org The DNS is already updated and we'll start moving over to advertising the new URLs shortly. We'll also need to update the landing pages etc. to match - help with that also welcome! -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Since phone messaging became popular, the young generation has lost the ability to read or write anything that is longer than one hundred and sixty characters. -- Ignatios Souvatzis
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Aug 22, 2015 7:16 PM, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 07:20:53AM +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:40:32 -0300 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer perezme...@gmail.com wrote: And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea. Not only canonical but also gentoo does. https://get.gentoo.org redirects https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/ (and I like their newer website design...) I think Lisandro meant the canonical location, as in, the normal name that you'd use, with the others being merely aliases for it, not the name that canonical (the company) uses. And I think Lisandro meant it being the A name, with cdimage staying as a CNAME so it's still reachable, rather than the other way around :-) / Matt
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
Hi, On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 07:20:53AM +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:40:32 -0300 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer perezme...@gmail.com wrote: And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea. Not only canonical but also gentoo does. https://get.gentoo.org redirects https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/ (and I like their newer website design...) I think Lisandro meant the canonical location, as in, the normal name that you'd use, with the others being merely aliases for it, not the name that canonical (the company) uses. But yeah, that would work too :-) -- It is easy to love a country that is famous for chocolate and beer -- Barack Obama, speaking in Brussels, Belgium, 2014-03-26
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On 20/08/15 09:07, Christoph Egger wrote: Hi! Daniel Sousa dan...@sousa.me writes: On 19/08/15 23:08, Riley Baird wrote: What about get.debian.org ? (There is get.debian.net) Off-topic, but I just had a look at get.debian.net, and it uses Google Analytics, which seems strange for a Debian site. Also, it's broken. All links return a 404. Anyone already contacted the team? Christoph I just did
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
Hi! Daniel Sousa dan...@sousa.me writes: On 19/08/15 23:08, Riley Baird wrote: What about get.debian.org ? (There is get.debian.net) Off-topic, but I just had a look at get.debian.net, and it uses Google Analytics, which seems strange for a Debian site. Also, it's broken. All links return a 404. Anyone already contacted the team? Christoph
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 20/08/15 12:05, Daniel Sousa wrote: On 20/08/15 09:07, Christoph Egger wrote: Hi! Daniel Sousa dan...@sousa.me writes: On 19/08/15 23:08, Riley Baird wrote: What about get.debian.org ? (There is get.debian.net) Off-topic, but I just had a look at get.debian.net, and it uses Google Analytics, which seems strange for a Debian site. Also, it's broken. All links return a 404. Anyone already contacted the team? Christoph I just did Links should be working again. :) - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) f...@debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV1cPMAAoJEMa4WYSFUi4t9SwQAJ7WH+1nr+IkaPfOvlG/OEKX H6UZE2q5HlS3PHYBAYCxgfdFGCu/9SvxIgzo8qeRXcsCprx6nkEAOxFYdA8UyeEy /x9dc9tUt28ef1tsrXIe8WQTAtpBJKv3WMP1RS+rjiuPy3SmaAJoIbY5pv3TZIT1 l6s2TDfa84tAZa7LvKlPHD7eVIi51BeR9o/Dy6KGDbxskhIV2MQnEMyYlMw/mCXR VHxBaVpspbBRPi4fYEoltPjfZ0+2JJ27s74GEbsW+vIdvfEWIKWHyne7uZEsD4Nq eb7kc6ykUx/o/K1E2PEg01Dy6iBnZNRKi1ZKFjHcRmRXmlUSWjtn1N01P7rj0PVY PxLaYTA3GO9IBfvqNeWndXH/ickJudLW/dbLQLwshb3TaLzpk81l61nZv/hBaO5e SdYmCEQoSY9e1+38MmcemKL5nG0kcZ65blEGPaulsfmKuKB9sw3p34TewmnfzId/ YkKOU/s0OCZIbhGyLScptY6u2J8+uLKWd2WhvLt+owvx2v0aGnr3p2Ur+gKrjtDg LFTYJEu97Gy0t95POKCMQ+RLCLyiLHcr5HSOzcPNWO4YoybyocnyvnH4FsXLNA1I rxf8pVQ2VucCqcBoK64I4jPtvc/NEMMGarwofYhvpQY+4ZHfwDqDj6sOGOoFovIl avl9SzrzDaoCJRPBS40h =NHMV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Wednesday 19 August 2015 09:45:36 Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention: - get.debian.org - download.debian.org - install.debian.org - installer.debian.org I kind-of like the idea of pointing all of these to the relevant service. And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea. -- Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:40:32 -0300 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer perezme...@gmail.com wrote: And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea. Not only canonical but also gentoo does. https://get.gentoo.org redirects https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/ (and I like their newer website design...) -- Hideki Yamane henr...@debian.or.jp
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:20:38PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: - get.debian.org I think it's a cool name, and my clear favourite thus far. :-) FWIW, same here. It's a verb, short, straight to the point, and memorable. I don't see the point of looking elsewhere :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli . . . . . . . z...@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o Former Debian Project Leader . . . . . @zacchiro . . . . o o o . . . o . « the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club » signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On 19/08/15 23:08, Riley Baird wrote: What about get.debian.org ? (There is get.debian.net) Off-topic, but I just had a look at get.debian.net, and it uses Google Analytics, which seems strange for a Debian site. Also, it's broken. All links return a 404.
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
Riley Baird bm-2cvqnduybau5do2dfjtrn7zbaj246s4...@bitmessage.ch writes: What about get.debian.org ? (There is get.debian.net) Off-topic, but I just had a look at get.debian.net, and it uses Google Analytics, which seems strange for a Debian site. debian.net aren't Debian sites, generally. debian.net == some Debian developer set up a DNS record for some reason. It's completely self-service, IIRC. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
What about get.debian.org ? (There is get.debian.net) Off-topic, but I just had a look at get.debian.net, and it uses Google Analytics, which seems strange for a Debian site. pgpYAVrOL4OPH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
download.debian.org is very good. On 19 August 2015 06:08:08 CEST, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote: Hi Steve and others, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2015-08-18): We called our main installer images distribution site cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time: * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!) So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-) Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name. Thanks, it'd been slightly annoying me over the past few years without having quite triggered something more than an occasional 'meh' about naming in this or that conversation. Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention: - get.debian.org - download.debian.org - install.debian.org - installer.debian.org I like the “action” aspect of the first 3, the last one being a bit different (yet appropriate). Mraw, KiBi.
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention: - get.debian.org - download.debian.org - install.debian.org - installer.debian.org I kind-of like the idea of pointing all of these to the relevant service. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:34:39PM +0100, Majid HUSSAIN wrote: hi there, hows about iso.debian.org? it makes sence to me at least. thoughts? But it also has usb compatible images, pxe and other netboot images, hd images, etc. It is not just ISOs. -- Len Sorensen
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:15:46 +0200 Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: - get.debian.org I prefer this since easy to understand and type :) -- Hideki Yamane henr...@debian.or.jp
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 01:04:17PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 09:19:07AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes: We called our main installer images distribution site cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time: Of course please keep the alias for those of us who have typed it for years and no longer think about it. Of course - I should have added that to my first email. We also don't want to break any existing setups. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com I suspect most samba developers are already technically insane... Of course, since many of them are Australians, you can't tell. -- Linus Torvalds
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 08:34:56PM +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:15:46 +0200 Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: - get.debian.org I prefer this since easy to understand and type :) I think it's a cool name, and my clear favourite thus far. :-) -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Every time you use Tcl, God kills a kitten. -- Malcolm Ray
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
Hi Steve and others, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com (2015-08-18): We called our main installer images distribution site cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time: * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!) So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-) Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name. Thanks, it'd been slightly annoying me over the past few years without having quite triggered something more than an occasional 'meh' about naming in this or that conversation. Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention: - get.debian.org - download.debian.org - install.debian.org - installer.debian.org I like the “action” aspect of the first 3, the last one being a bit different (yet appropriate). Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
get.debian.org and redirections for every release like get.debian.org/$RELEASE would be great. That would be perfect! get.debian.org/testing here I come! :)
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: - get.debian.org +1
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name. download.debian.org ? -- Antonio Terceiro terce...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
Hi all, On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 06:08:08AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention: - get.debian.org - download.debian.org - install.debian.org - installer.debian.org I like the “action” aspect of the first 3, the last one being a bit different (yet appropriate). +1 Thanks, Marco gnupg-pgp-signature.asc Description: GnuPG/PGP Signature
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 06:15:46PM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: - get.debian.org get.debian.org and redirections for every release like get.debian.org/$RELEASE would be great.
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
hi there, hows about iso.debian.org? it makes sence to me at least. thoughts? Majid On 18/08/2015, Simon Kainz si...@familiekainz.at wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Well, i created a Wiki Page for this, making it probably easier to decide upon things. I copied the already proposed names there: https://wiki.debian.org/NewNameForCDImage Bye, Simon Am 2015-08-18 um 18:15 schrieb Steve Langasek: On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hey folks, We called our main installer images distribution site cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time: * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!) So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-) Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name. - seedy-image.debian.org - mothership.debian.org - ftp.debian.org - image-master.debian.org - get.debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV01y1AAoJEBy08PeN7K/pmF4P/1xqcLnQtAkIuR2AcMWDtKEz WAKE9Tejo+n977iU3aGRHK3jYcTkBgYPF4qaPbdQVcgrzPCMQUMJIj/jHR736Z9T 7Flqh9sNzUKLBY+TfHiKyYxehRRBFCs1nQstiZBEXaJjILlV/jiJUNuL6gVMEqmb /3LXze009YetRh/2228bCpafn5lf6KKoHXosZwBOT71cTISXVLymnP3xxeF1q2xm Z+rpUoNakF8daGXxIMqP7a7JoBKdfPBSXa2KghvRCrPqd3HbUqVGYydWvl0WeyjH TU9E7nNal8vmn99fhOOUWYOEDtDOrkNuKXC3C3vdloN1LLU8bnwhMJ2/j3yE0ao3 pgEals3UAAFY0CBv63HBfLaylQyUFCrqCkq3E7GSRbp5ayaF30L0uysVf0MOzfCU nW2rPGP9vqBB25XhvGehXH0nsj1/EN1fGvNliWR+jSC070Wmw0q9XuH+I6ZT3FFE nNW28yq+cOzl/N0edaC9gQ2ngcruiZZ7yacJEkHBqmpQKT8BjR7Qyx25GaC6icJs qYn9nUpf2Jmq6n8/tu1UzOvmiHj8qTfXUYZZd/Kn/pDMuu5lORWa87GwsCqw6usI 81GocuLuW6wJVeU/Ijenbme1R9bVYlbHxH8IZPXw2YKHQDvJ4KCAfxtARXw6Ixyx pmMGapXvzXWZ8Gpq3Awe =fve2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
cdimage?? What should we call it?
Hey folks, We called our main installer images distribution site cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time: * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!) So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-) Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com I can't ever sleep on planes ... call it irrational if you like, but I'm afraid I'll miss my stop -- Vivek Das Mohapatra
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
Le mardi, 18 août 2015, 17.09:19 Steve McIntyre a écrit : We called our main installer images distribution site cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and most people downloaded images of CDs. (…) So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? (…) What about get.debian.org ? (There is get.debian.net) Cheers, OdyX signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes: We called our main installer images distribution site cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time: * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!) So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-) install.debian.org? (get.debian.org is good too.) -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/
Re: cdimage?? What should we call it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Well, i created a Wiki Page for this, making it probably easier to decide upon things. I copied the already proposed names there: https://wiki.debian.org/NewNameForCDImage Bye, Simon Am 2015-08-18 um 18:15 schrieb Steve Langasek: On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hey folks, We called our main installer images distribution site cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time: * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!) So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-) Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name. - seedy-image.debian.org - mothership.debian.org - ftp.debian.org - image-master.debian.org - get.debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJV01y1AAoJEBy08PeN7K/pmF4P/1xqcLnQtAkIuR2AcMWDtKEz WAKE9Tejo+n977iU3aGRHK3jYcTkBgYPF4qaPbdQVcgrzPCMQUMJIj/jHR736Z9T 7Flqh9sNzUKLBY+TfHiKyYxehRRBFCs1nQstiZBEXaJjILlV/jiJUNuL6gVMEqmb /3LXze009YetRh/2228bCpafn5lf6KKoHXosZwBOT71cTISXVLymnP3xxeF1q2xm Z+rpUoNakF8daGXxIMqP7a7JoBKdfPBSXa2KghvRCrPqd3HbUqVGYydWvl0WeyjH TU9E7nNal8vmn99fhOOUWYOEDtDOrkNuKXC3C3vdloN1LLU8bnwhMJ2/j3yE0ao3 pgEals3UAAFY0CBv63HBfLaylQyUFCrqCkq3E7GSRbp5ayaF30L0uysVf0MOzfCU nW2rPGP9vqBB25XhvGehXH0nsj1/EN1fGvNliWR+jSC070Wmw0q9XuH+I6ZT3FFE nNW28yq+cOzl/N0edaC9gQ2ngcruiZZ7yacJEkHBqmpQKT8BjR7Qyx25GaC6icJs qYn9nUpf2Jmq6n8/tu1UzOvmiHj8qTfXUYZZd/Kn/pDMuu5lORWa87GwsCqw6usI 81GocuLuW6wJVeU/Ijenbme1R9bVYlbHxH8IZPXw2YKHQDvJ4KCAfxtARXw6Ixyx pmMGapXvzXWZ8Gpq3Awe =fve2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
