Re: gmane equivalent
Ritesh Raj Sarraf writes ("Re: gmane equivalent"):
> But having it limited to an IP would have very limited use ?
>
> Many of us in developing nations have temp IP addresses provided by our
> ISPs.
That's unfortunate. I don't have an easy answer to that apart from
perhaps to use a server host (perhaps a VM) somewhere as a relay.
If you're reading Debian lists (and lists of upstreams, etc.) then
that would surely fall within the DMUP - is there a suitable
DSA-managed machine ?
Ian.
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Re: gmane equivalent
On 01/16/2015 10:38 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Let me make a more concrete offer: > > On request, chiark will provide reading/posting access for DDs or DMs, > to the public groups chiark carries, including Debian list gateways. > > If you would like access to chiark's news server, please: > - email newsmas...@chiark.greenend.org.uk with a signed request > - stating the IPv4/IPv6 address or domain name to grant access to > - stating who (besides you) has the use of that address or name Thank you Ian. But having it limited to an IP would have very limited use ? Many of us in developing nations have temp IP addresses provided by our ISPs. -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf | http://people.debian.org/~rrs Debian - The Universal Operating System signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: gmane equivalent
On 16/01/15 17:20, Fredrik Jonson wrote: >> I've used gmane for year, to take care of most mailing list tracking. >> Does Debian as a project have an NNTP service? We have mailing lists, but >> do we also have NNTP service like gmane. > > Most public debian mailing lists are gatewayed and available as news groups in > the linux.debian.* hierarchy. The gateway is provided by http://news.bofh.it/. > Your regular usenet provider probably already has this hierarchy. I have been reading the Debian mailing lists on the news groups gatewayed by bofh.it, operated by Marco d'Itri, through the free Eternal September news server for many years without problem. My only reservation is that I haven't been able to verify for certain that the message IDs and references headers are handled correctly by the gateway. Roger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/phtqob-soh@silverstone.rilynn.me.uk
Re: gmane equivalent
Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > I've used gmane for year, to take care of most mailing list tracking. > Does Debian as a project have an NNTP service? We have mailing lists, but > do we also have NNTP service like gmane. Most public debian mailing lists are gatewayed and available as news groups in the linux.debian.* hierarchy. The gateway is provided by http://news.bofh.it/. Your regular usenet provider probably already has this hierarchy. Gmane is also a great service, who also provide their own news gateway to debian lists. I see no need for the Debian project to duplicate these efforts. -- Fredrik Jonson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmbigg2.us5.fred...@biggles.jonson.org
Re: gmane equivalent
Ritesh Raj Sarraf writes ("Re: gmane equivalent"):
> On 01/16/2015 08:53 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I'm tempted to grant access to every machine in *.debian.net. Would
> > that be unwise ?
>
> I've been using a combination of leafnode + gmane so far, and it has
> worked perfect. I've used this setup on my laptop for many years without
> much trouble.
Right.
Let me make a more concrete offer:
On request, chiark will provide reading/posting access for DDs or DMs,
to the public groups chiark carries, including Debian list gateways.
If you would like access to chiark's news server, please:
- email newsmas...@chiark.greenend.org.uk with a signed request
- stating the IPv4/IPv6 address or domain name to grant access to
- stating who (besides you) has the use of that address or name
I (or Matthew Vernon, my co-newsmaster) will reply notifying you that
access has been granted.[1] We will also create new gateways for
mailing lists (not just Debian lists) on request. You'll be in the
same category as Cambridge University users:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~news/ucam.html
We are also generally happy to peer:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~news/peer.html
Please feel free to repeat this offer elsewhere, or reproduce it on an
appropriate wiki page, or whatever.
Ian.
[1] For the avoidance of doubt, we reserve the right to say no or
terminate access for any reason or no reason.
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Re: gmane equivalent
On 01/16/2015 08:53 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > I asked DSA whether it would be a good idea to grant access to every > Debian system but they told me that a user using a Debian machine to > read usenet would probably be in breach of the DMUP. I guess that > wouldn't apply to reading chiark.mail.debian.*. > > I'm tempted to grant access to every machine in *.debian.net. Would > that be unwise ? I've been using a combination of leafnode + gmane so far, and it has worked perfect. I've used this setup on my laptop for many years without much trouble. -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf | http://people.debian.org/~rrs Debian - The Universal Operating System signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: gmane equivalent
Ritesh Raj Sarraf writes ("gmane equivalent"):
> I've used gmane for year, to take care of most mailing list tracking. It
> has worked great so far, but I wasn't aware that it is run by a small
> group of individuals.
>
> Does Debian as a project have an NNTP service ?
> We have mailing lists, but do we also have NNTP service like gmane. If
> not, should we be having one ?
I gateway a large number of Debian lists[1] on my personal colo (which
also runs a general text newsfeed and which provides service to my own
users and also anyone with a University of Cambridge IP address).
I would be happy to grant access to Debian Developers and longstanding
contributors, but I would need a static IP address or stable domain
name.
I asked DSA whether it would be a good idea to grant access to every
Debian system but they told me that a user using a Debian machine to
read usenet would probably be in breach of the DMUP. I guess that
wouldn't apply to reading chiark.mail.debian.*.
I'm tempted to grant access to every machine in *.debian.net. Would
that be unwise ?
Ian.
[1] Not all of them, but I add new ones on request.
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gmane equivalent
I've used gmane for year, to take care of most mailing list tracking. It has worked great so far, but I wasn't aware that it is run by a small group of individuals. Does Debian as a project have an NNTP service ? We have mailing lists, but do we also have NNTP service like gmane. If not, should we be having one ? -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf | http://people.debian.org/~rrs Debian - The Universal Operating System signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
