Re: gnome2

2011-06-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 11 juin 2011 à 23:04 -0500, Michael Fogg a écrit :
 will debian in future releases use gnome 2.32 becuse gnome 3s fallback
 mode just is not gnome 2.32.

Indeed. GNOME 3 in fallback mode is much better than 2.32, and a lot of
long-standing bugs have been fixed.

Apart from the compatibility issues with some applets (and really, it’s
less than an hour of work to port a C applet if there’s still someone
interested in it) I only see improvement.

 i know it takes a lot to maintain gnome 2 but will you please keep it
 in the system.

The complexity of doing so would be huge because GNOME 2 and GNOME 3 are
not designed to be parallel installable. It would require parallel
installation of things as low-level as GLib, for example.

Feel free to start a packaging sub-project to do so, but be aware that
the task is enormous, you won’t have any support from upstream and you
will meet hostility from core Debian teams because of the code
duplication you would introduce.

 maybye what you can do is make two gnome distros one for gnome 3 and
 gnome 2 that looks good to me and hopefully to you.

That will not happen. There is only one Debian distribution. 
Cheers,
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Re: gnome2

2011-06-12 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi Michael

On 12/06/11 12:04 AM, Michael Fogg wrote:
 will debian in future releases use gnome 2.32 becuse gnome 3s fallback mode 
 just is not gnome 2.32.
 i know it takes a lot to maintain gnome 2 but will you please keep it in the 
 system.
 even if you dont maintain gnome 2 at lest keep it in the system.
 i really dont care if gnome 2 gets maintained just as long as i have it the 
 debain.
 maybye what you can do is make two gnome distros one for gnome 3 and gnome 2 
 that looks good to 
 me and hopefully to you.

Unfortunately Gnome 2 is unmaintained and completely discontinued
upstream, and for the Debian Gnome maintainers to maintain the packages
and the code base it self would be a huge undertaking.

Otherwise it's probably best to just stick with Squeeze and install
backports. By the time the next stable Debian release hits the Gnome 3
fallback mode should be a lot better.

-Jonathan


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Re: gnome2

2011-06-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Michael Fogg wrote:
 will debian in future releases use gnome 2.32 becuse gnome 3s fallback mode
 just is not gnome 2.32.
 i know it takes a lot to maintain gnome 2 but will you please keep it in the
 system.
 even if you dont maintain gnome 2 at lest keep it in the system.
 i really dont care if gnome 2 gets maintained just as long as i have it the
 debain.
 maybye what you can do is make two gnome distros one for gnome 3 and gnome 2
 that looks good to
 me and hopefully to you.
 reply. :)

Debian is an all volunteer project, so if you're interested in this,
you can be the one to make it happen! Find a team of like-minded
individuals, come up with a solution that respects gnome3 as the
default, convince some DDs to sponsor your work, and just do it.

Best wishes,
Mike


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gnome2

2011-06-11 Thread Michael Fogg
will debian in future releases use gnome 2.32 becuse gnome 3s fallback mode 
just is not gnome 2.32.
i know it takes a lot to maintain gnome 2 but will you please keep it in the 
system.
even if you dont maintain gnome 2 at lest keep it in the system.
i really dont care if gnome 2 gets maintained just as long as i have it the 
debain.
maybye what you can do is make two gnome distros one for gnome 3 and gnome 2 
that looks good to 
me and hopefully to you.

reply. :)