Re: salsa accounts

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Okay, we did it! Finally the account was activated.

That said my email is like that because it's my national identity number,
signed by my government.

https://es20490446e.wordpress.com/signature/

On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 at 23:30, Joerg Jaspert  wrote:

> On 16672 March 1977, Vincent Bernat wrote:
>
> >> If you are willing to accomodate to Debian's reasons (that is, the
> >> reasons for the people that have to answer to specific requests), you
> >> will be able to get your account created.
> > It seems Alberto did everything he was asked to, including asking on
> > IRC
> > again, while keeping the tone civil. What more can we expect from him?
>
> He was on IRC, for about twenty minutes, somewhere during the day. Luck
> had it, it was at a time none of us was active.
>
> Now, Thomas told him to retry, by now his spammy looking mail address
> ought to be known by us. If that comes combined with the name, I'm sure
> it would work out, multiple of us admins now know that combination.
> Haven't seen it yet, the last two days. (If it is only the mail, and the
> name is not like the one here, but some random stuff, I'm not sure it
> will be recognized. Not saying Alberto is doing that, but some real
> random Text for name and mail addresses in exactly his schema is what
> spambots like to use).
>
> --
> bye, Joerg
>

Re: salsa accounts

[Joerg Jaspert]

On 16670 March 1977, Luna Jernberg wrote:


i think i use Gmail on my Salsa account, is it advised to change the
email to another provider if you already have an account?


Well. No, you have your account. That is, your registration did not
appear like one of the trillion spam ones we get.
You do have your account on salsa, there is nothing now blocking you, so
keep your gmail. Feel free to add other email addresses, gitlab allows
that, and in many cases it makes sense to have more than just one there.
But that's independent of registration.


*Personally*, I think you can't leave gmail any second to early. The
faster, the better. But that doesn't aaffect your salsa access at all. 
:)


--
bye, Joerg

Re: salsa accounts

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 09:33:04PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> On 2022-11-04 20:11, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> 
> > > Before emailing this list I requested account creation three times, read
> > > the wiki twice, emailed the admins once, and asked on IRC once too. Now
> > > asking on IRC again without response, not counting the emails on this 
> > > list.
> > > 
> > > Either you point me to a reasonably simple way to create an account, or 
> > > I'm
> > > sorry I'm no longer interested.
> > 
> > Nobody will force you to volunteer your time to Debian.
> > 
> > You have been given several replies as to why your registration has
> > not succeeded, and ways forward as to how to proceed. If you are
> > already fed up with us and don't want to follow the suggestions given
> > by other Debian volunteers, well... the free software world is quite
> > wide, and I'm sure you will find other groups with whom to
> > collaborate.
> > 
> > If you are willing to accomodate to Debian's reasons (that is, the
> > reasons for the people that have to answer to specific requests), you
> > will be able to get your account created.
> 
> It seems Alberto did everything he was asked to, including asking on IRC
> again, while keeping the tone civil. What more can we expect from him?

He just came to IRC, said "I liked to join Salsa" and left 20 minutes
later". That's not very useful.

Alberto, please register again. Now that we know that there is Alberto
that is a real person, but has a spammer-looking email address, we can
approve your account.


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Re: salsa accounts

[Vincent Bernat]

On 2022-11-04 20:11, Gunnar Wolf wrote:


Before emailing this list I requested account creation three times, read
the wiki twice, emailed the admins once, and asked on IRC once too. Now
asking on IRC again without response, not counting the emails on this list.

Either you point me to a reasonably simple way to create an account, or I'm
sorry I'm no longer interested.


Nobody will force you to volunteer your time to Debian.

You have been given several replies as to why your registration has
not succeeded, and ways forward as to how to proceed. If you are
already fed up with us and don't want to follow the suggestions given
by other Debian volunteers, well... the free software world is quite
wide, and I'm sure you will find other groups with whom to
collaborate.

If you are willing to accomodate to Debian's reasons (that is, the
reasons for the people that have to answer to specific requests), you
will be able to get your account created.


It seems Alberto did everything he was asked to, including asking on IRC 
again, while keeping the tone civil. What more can we expect from him?

Re: salsa accounts

[Gunnar Wolf]

Alberto Salvia Novella dijo [Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 05:48:50PM +0100]:
> Before emailing this list I requested account creation three times, read
> the wiki twice, emailed the admins once, and asked on IRC once too. Now
> asking on IRC again without response, not counting the emails on this list.
> 
> Either you point me to a reasonably simple way to create an account, or I'm
> sorry I'm no longer interested.

Nobody will force you to volunteer your time to Debian.

You have been given several replies as to why your registration has
not succeeded, and ways forward as to how to proceed. If you are
already fed up with us and don't want to follow the suggestions given
by other Debian volunteers, well... the free software world is quite
wide, and I'm sure you will find other groups with whom to
collaborate.

If you are willing to accomodate to Debian's reasons (that is, the
reasons for the people that have to answer to specific requests), you
will be able to get your account created.

Re: salsa accounts

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Before emailing this list I requested account creation three times, read
the wiki twice, emailed the admins once, and asked on IRC once too. Now
asking on IRC again without response, not counting the emails on this list.

Either you point me to a reasonably simple way to create an account, or I'm
sorry I'm no longer interested.

On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 16:44, Thomas Goirand  wrote:

> On 11/3/22 04:25, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> > I won't abide to such email standards.
>
> Hi,
>
> You've been given an alternative (ie: ask on IRC, still keeping your
> gmail account).
>
> Also, if you retried to register, I am guessing most (if not all) Salsa
> admins would have seen your email again, and accepted it... You haven't,
> as much as I know.
>
> So, please do one of the suggested actions, and you'll get your account.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas Goirand
>
> P.S: maybe keeping a polite tone would be nice?
>
>

Re: salsa accounts

[Thomas Goirand]

On 11/3/22 04:25, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:

I won't abide to such email standards.


Hi,

You've been given an alternative (ie: ask on IRC, still keeping your 
gmail account).


Also, if you retried to register, I am guessing most (if not all) Salsa 
admins would have seen your email again, and accepted it... You haven't, 
as much as I know.


So, please do one of the suggested actions, and you'll get your account.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand

P.S: maybe keeping a polite tone would be nice?

Re: salsa accounts

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

I won't abide to such email standards.

On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 22:11, Joerg Jaspert  wrote:

> On 16670 March 1977, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> > It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 燎
> > Who is in charge?
>
> You may want to start reading answers you are getting.
>
> We won't allow gmail.com addresses free accounts, ever. It is one of the
> worst spam sources out there. Before that, we would be disabling gmail
> completly, it just sucks to allow it.
>
> And your mail address triggers spam filtering *easy*.
>
> You can try catching an admin in #salsa on OFTC right when you try to
> register again, and avoid rejection that way. Or just don't use gmail.
>
> --
> bye, Joerg
>

Re: salsa accounts

[Luna Jernberg]

Hey!

i think i use Gmail on my Salsa account, is it advised to change the
email to another provider if you already have an account?

On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 10:19 PM Joerg Jaspert  wrote:
>
> On 16670 March 1977, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> > It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 燎
> > Who is in charge?
>
> You may want to start reading answers you are getting.
>
> We won't allow gmail.com addresses free accounts, ever. It is one of the
> worst spam sources out there. Before that, we would be disabling gmail
> completly, it just sucks to allow it.
>
> And your mail address triggers spam filtering *easy*.
>
> You can try catching an admin in #salsa on OFTC right when you try to
> register again, and avoid rejection that way. Or just don't use gmail.
>
> --
> bye, Joerg
>

Re: salsa accounts

[Joerg Jaspert]

On 16670 March 1977, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:

It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 燎
Who is in charge?


You may want to start reading answers you are getting.

We won't allow gmail.com addresses free accounts, ever. It is one of the
worst spam sources out there. Before that, we would be disabling gmail
completly, it just sucks to allow it.

And your mail address triggers spam filtering *easy*.

You can try catching an admin in #salsa on OFTC right when you try to
register again, and avoid rejection that way. Or just don't use gmail.

--
bye, Joerg

Re: salsa accounts

[Znoteer]

I am neither a Debian Developer nor a Debian Maintainer, so I am certainly not 
in charge. However, as an ordinary Debian user, I was able to get a salsa 
account after following the instructions for doing so, and waiting for my 
account to be approved. 

If you don't seem to be able to get an account, I would have to guess that 
either you didn't follow the directions, or you just haven't waited enough.

Everything in Debian is done by volunteers. Though there is a Project Leader, 
they do not have any authority to be ordering anybody to do anything nor to 
officially investigate anything. Nobody does. If your account has been properly 
applied for but not approved, it's because no volunteer with the necessary 
system privileges has yet had the time to approve backlogged applications. No 
one is going to tell anyone else to do it more quickly.

You'll just have to be patient like has previously been suggested. 

-- 
Znoteer
znot...@mailbox.org

On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 05:06:52PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 燎
> 
> Who is in charge?
> 
> (When replying, include my email in the "to" field)
> 
> On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 19:00, Alberto Salvia Novella 
> wrote:
> 
> > I tried registering a few times, and it never got approved.
> >
> > (When replying, include my email in the "to" field)
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 17:59, Antonio Terceiro  wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> >> > Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at "
> >> > salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and
> >> make
> >> > pull requests.
> >> >
> >> > For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk
> >> >  on my distro, which is
> >> a
> >> > port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot
> >> help
> >> > out because I can't create an account.
> >> >
> >> > (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)
> >>
> >> That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam
> >> registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have
> >> little patience until your account gets approved.
> >>
> >> https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users
> >>
> >>

Re: salsa accounts

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

It looks to me that nobody knows a thing. Very good 燎

Who is in charge?

(When replying, include my email in the "to" field)

On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 19:00, Alberto Salvia Novella 
wrote:

> I tried registering a few times, and it never got approved.
>
> (When replying, include my email in the "to" field)
>
> On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 17:59, Antonio Terceiro  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
>> > Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at "
>> > salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and
>> make
>> > pull requests.
>> >
>> > For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk
>> >  on my distro, which is
>> a
>> > port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot
>> help
>> > out because I can't create an account.
>> >
>> > (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)
>>
>> That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam
>> registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have
>> little patience until your account gets approved.
>>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users
>>
>>

Re: salsa accounts

[Alexander Wirt]

Hi, simple, your mail address triggers every spam trigger. I doubt it will ever succeed. It looks exactly like a typical type of spammers.AlexAm 01.11.2022 um 19:04 schrieb Alberto Salvia Novella :I tried registering a few times, and it never got approved.(When replying, include my email in the "to" field)On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 17:59, Antonio Terceiro  wrote:On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at "
> salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and make
> pull requests.
> 
> For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk
>  on my distro, which is a
> port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help
> out because I can't create an account.
> 
> (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)

That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam
registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have
little patience until your account gets approved.

https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users

Re: salsa accounts

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

I tried registering a few times, and it never got approved.

(When replying, include my email in the "to" field)

On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 17:59, Antonio Terceiro  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> > Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at "
> > salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and
> make
> > pull requests.
> >
> > For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk
> >  on my distro, which is a
> > port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot
> help
> > out because I can't create an account.
> >
> > (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)
>
> That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam
> registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have
> little patience until your account gets approved.
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users
>
>

Re: salsa accounts

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at "
> salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and make
> pull requests.
> 
> For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk
>  on my distro, which is a
> port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help
> out because I can't create an account.
> 
> (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)

That would makes it easier for you, but also for the huge amount of spam
registrations that we receive every day. Unfortunately, you need to have
little patience until your account gets approved.

https://wiki.debian.org/Salsa/Doc#Users



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Re: salsa accounts

[Nilesh Patra]

On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:27:35PM +0100, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
> Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at "
> salsa.debian.org".

It is ''already allowed''. Once registered, it goes via a process of manual 
approval.

> So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs,

salsa is not the right place to report bugs, BTS is[1]

> and make pull requests.
> 
> For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk
>  on my distro, which is a
> port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help
> out because I can't create an account.

You can file a bug with BTS and attach a patch there.

> (When replying, include my email in the "by" field)

I am not aware of any such field, did you mean "TO" field?

[1]: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/

-- 
Best,
Nilesh


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salsa accounts

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Maybe it would be interesting allowing anyone to create an account at "
salsa.debian.org". So anyone outside Debian can also report bugs, and make
pull requests.

For example I'm using Debian's syncthing-gtk
 on my distro, which is a
port of the software to Python 3 not available elsewhere. But I cannot help
out because I can't create an account.

(When replying, include my email in the "by" field)