Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Donovan Baarda 
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:53:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a
> > bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package.
> 
> Eh?
> 
> python1.5's still useful to users, isn't it, especially ones with
> important python programs they don't want to port to 2.1 just yet?
> 
> Dropping python1.5 doesn't seem a particularly clever thing to do.

I agree. Old versions can also be useful when testing backwards
compatability of scripts etc.

Now that the python policy supports multiple versions and a default version,
having old versions around doesn't hurt. Why not just leave them there?
Removing them buys nothing but a little archive space.

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread dman 
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:53:24AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
| On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
| > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a
| > bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package.
| 
| Eh?
| 
| python1.5's still useful to users, isn't it, especially ones with
| important python programs they don't want to port to 2.1 just yet?

I suppose it could be.

FWIW since I just installed the new gadfly package, removing
python1.5-base didn't try and remove anything else.  I now have just
2.1 and 2.2 on my system.

-D

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread dman 
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 10:22:12PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
| dman writes:
| > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
| > | It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three
| > | packages remaining:
| > 
| > Also gadfly depends on 1.5.  Unfortunately it appears stagnant
| > upstream (last release in '98).  The testsuite passes for 2.1 but not
| > 2.2.  Both versions give deprecation warnings about using the 'regex'
| > and 'resub' modules.
| 
| gadfly has been converted to 2.1.

# apt-get update
$ apt-cache policy gadfly
$ apt-cache show gadfly

Oh cool, there's a new version that depends on 2.1!  I'm glad to see
that.

# apt-get install gadfly

-D

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Anthony Towns 
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a
> bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package.

Eh?

python1.5's still useful to users, isn't it, especially ones with
important python programs they don't want to port to 2.1 just yet?

Dropping python1.5 doesn't seem a particularly clever thing to do.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Matthias Klose 
Mikhail Sobolev writes:
> On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> >  - python-pam: http://bugs.debian.org/119213
> >See http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python for a try.
> >However I couldn't get it reliably working ...
> 
> Could you please give more details on this?  I do use this package and would
> like to know what I should expect...

Unfortunately I uploaded this to unstable as well ... have a look at
it. python pamtest.py doesn't do anything useful.

probably you can adopt it, since upstream doesn't care much?

Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Matthias Klose 
dman writes:
> On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> | It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three
> | packages remaining:
> 
> Also gadfly depends on 1.5.  Unfortunately it appears stagnant
> upstream (last release in '98).  The testsuite passes for 2.1 but not
> 2.2.  Both versions give deprecation warnings about using the 'regex'
> and 'resub' modules.

gadfly has been converted to 2.1.

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Jérôme Marant 
dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> | It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three
> | packages remaining:
> 
> Also gadfly depends on 1.5.  Unfortunately it appears stagnant
> upstream (last release in '98).  The testsuite passes for 2.1 but not
> 2.2.  Both versions give deprecation warnings about using the 'regex'
> and 'resub' modules.

  Same thing for xtalk.

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread dman 
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
| It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three
| packages remaining:

Also gadfly depends on 1.5.  Unfortunately it appears stagnant
upstream (last release in '98).  The testsuite passes for 2.1 but not
2.2.  Both versions give deprecation warnings about using the 'regex'
and 'resub' modules.

-D

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Mikhail Sobolev 
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
>  - python-pam: http://bugs.debian.org/119213
>See http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python for a try.
>However I couldn't get it reliably working ...

Could you please give more details on this?  I do use this package and would
like to know what I should expect...

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Jérôme Marant 
Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 
> There is also xtalk that fails to work with newer python,
> but so far I have not gotten around to uploading new version
> with correct dependencies (it time permits, I'd rather 
> try to fix the program itself)

  I've had a look at the package. It seems that it does not
  respect our Python policy and even more it does not compile
  .py file at postinst anymore.

  BTW, the program is quite easy to adapt to newer Python,
  but isn't that the upstream job?

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Radovan Garabik 
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 08:26:49PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote:
> Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three
> > packages remaining:
> ...
> > These packages are:
> > 
> > - pychecker
> > - python-pqueue
> > - python-egenix-mxbase
> > - python1.5-imaging
> > - python1.5-psycopg
> 
>   I've also seen python1.5-orbit in incoming.
> 
> > 
> > If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a
> > bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package.
> 
>   Me neither. But better make sure first that noone need 1.5 any more.

There is also xtalk that fails to work with newer python,
but so far I have not gotten around to uploading new version
with correct dependencies (it time permits, I'd rather 
try to fix the program itself)

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Re: Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Jérôme Marant 
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three
> packages remaining:
...
> These packages are:
> 
> - pychecker
> - python-pqueue
> - python-egenix-mxbase
> - python1.5-imaging
> - python1.5-psycopg

  I've also seen python1.5-orbit in incoming.

> 
> If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a
> bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package.

  Me neither. But better make sure first that noone need 1.5 any more.

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Removal of python1.5?

2001-12-09 Thread Matthias Klose 
It looks like the move to python (v2.1) is done. There are three
packages remaining:

 - pydb: http://bugs.debian.org/119203
   Not yet ported to 2.1, but we do have an alterbate debugger
   available (idle).

 - python-pam: http://bugs.debian.org/119213
   See http://ftp-master.debian.org/~doko/python for a try.
   However I couldn't get it reliably working ...

 - python1.5-distutils: Included in python1.5.

All other python1.5 dependent packages are either:

- modules, which are built for python2.1 as well. So it seems to be
  safe to remove them. It's not necessary to file bugs to
  ftp.debian.org, simply do not build the module from the (same) source
  package from which you build your 2.1 module.

- or packages, which depend on: python1.5 | python2.1. Drop the
  reference to python1.5 (and python2).

These packages are:

- pychecker
- python-pqueue
- python-egenix-mxbase
- python1.5-imaging
- python1.5-psycopg

If I don't hear a serious reason to keep python1.5, I plan to file a
bug report for ftp.debian.org to remove the python1.5 package.