Re: Ongoing Python Transition: related FTBFSes

2010-01-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com (17/12/2009):
 I believe that we are getting close to uploading Python 2.6 to
 Unstable and dropping Python 2.4 as a supported Python version.  If
 we finish preparations in the next week, are there any ongoing
 transitions a python2.6/python- defaults upload would entangle that
 would cause the release team to want the uploads to be delayed?

Hi,

I'm not sure it's the proper thread to mention this, but from a quick
look, it sounds like related.

FWIW, here are some FTBFSes I've reported lately, which look due to
this transition:
  #567220: qscintilla2
  #567222: python-qt3
  #567224: python-qt4
  #567226: pysvn
  #567227: pyqwt3d
  #567228: pyqwt5
  #567231: gammu
  #567302: babel

python-qt* FTBFSes are likely responsible for some others, so
interested people may want to look into those first.

 P.S.  Please cc me on any replies as I am not subscribed to the list.

Done. I've also added -python@ in the loop.

Mraw,
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Re: Ongoing Python Transition: related FTBFSes

2010-01-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 at 12:50:24 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 FWIW, here are some FTBFSes I've reported lately, which look due to
 this transition:
[...]

... and for those who care about FTBFSs, the binNMUs of pygtk are also all
failing (either due to #548211 or not waiting for python2.6-gobject to be
available), which could stall this transition fairly badly. I'm sure the GNOME
team would appreciate help with that.

S


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Re: Ongoing Python Transition: related FTBFSes

2010-01-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
 Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com (17/12/2009):
 I believe that we are getting close to uploading Python 2.6 to
 Unstable and dropping Python 2.4 as a supported Python version.  If
 we finish preparations in the next week, are there any ongoing
 transitions a python2.6/python- defaults upload would entangle that
 would cause the release team to want the uploads to be delayed?

 Hi,

 I'm not sure it's the proper thread to mention this, but from a quick
 look, it sounds like related.

 FWIW, here are some FTBFSes I've reported lately, which look due to
 this transition:
   #567220: qscintilla2
   #567222: python-qt3
   #567224: python-qt4
   #567226: pysvn
   #567227: pyqwt3d
   #567228: pyqwt5
   #567231: gammu
   #567302: babel

 python-qt* FTBFSes are likely responsible for some others, so
 interested people may want to look into those first.

 P.S.  Please cc me on any replies as I am not subscribed to the list.

 Done. I've also added -python@ in the loop.

The solution for python-qt* is a bit complicated, but is in progress.  I
saw uploads to Experimental that include new tools to better deal with
python-sip changes.

Scott K


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Re: Ongoing Python Transition: related FTBFSes

2010-01-28 Thread Matthias Klose

On 28.01.2010 12:50, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

Scott Kittermandeb...@kitterman.com  (17/12/2009):

I believe that we are getting close to uploading Python 2.6 to
Unstable and dropping Python 2.4 as a supported Python version.  If
we finish preparations in the next week, are there any ongoing
transitions a python2.6/python- defaults upload would entangle that
would cause the release team to want the uploads to be delayed?


Hi,

I'm not sure it's the proper thread to mention this, but from a quick
look, it sounds like related.

FWIW, here are some FTBFSes I've reported lately, which look due to
this transition:
   #567226: pysvn


that's a wrong report, pycxx needs binNMUed, then the package does build.


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Re: Ongoing Python Transition: related FTBFSes

2010-01-28 Thread Luk Claes
Matthias Klose wrote:
 On 28.01.2010 12:50, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Scott Kittermandeb...@kitterman.com  (17/12/2009):
 I believe that we are getting close to uploading Python 2.6 to
 Unstable and dropping Python 2.4 as a supported Python version.  If
 we finish preparations in the next week, are there any ongoing
 transitions a python2.6/python- defaults upload would entangle that
 would cause the release team to want the uploads to be delayed?

 Hi,

 I'm not sure it's the proper thread to mention this, but from a quick
 look, it sounds like related.

 FWIW, here are some FTBFSes I've reported lately, which look due to
 this transition:
#567226: pysvn
 
 that's a wrong report, pycxx needs binNMUed, then the package does build.

pycxx is an Architecture: all package and cannot be binNMUed as such, so
a sourceful upload is required.

Cheers

Luk


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Re: RFS: python-whisper

2010-01-28 Thread Elliot Murphy
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Elliot Murphy ell...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Dear mentors and python-module-packagers,

 I joined the team recently, injected my package into svn, and have now
 uploaded it to mentors. The package looks lintian-clean, and my test
 installations have worked OK. I'll gladly fix anything a sponsor might
 request to be fixed. Below is the RFS template, and thanks for your help!

 I am looking for a sponsor for my package python-whisper.

 * Package name    : python-whisper
  Version         : 0.9.5-1
  Upstream Author : Chris Davis chrismd at gmail com
 * URL             : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/whisper/0.9.5
 * License         : Apache Software License 2.0
  Section         : python

 It builds these binary packages:
 python-whisper - fast, reliable storage of numeric data over time.

 The package appears to be lintian clean.

 The upload would fix these bugs: 563765

 My motivation for maintaining this package is: I want to package the
 cool metrics graphing software called Graphite, and this is one of the
 dependencies. I expect 3 packages in total: this one, and two
 applications called python-carbon and graphite-web.

 The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
 - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/python-whisper
 - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
 main contrib non-free
 - dget
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/python-whisper/python-whisper_0.9.5-1.dsc

 I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.


Today I have switched python-whisper to use python-support instead of
python-central, as requested by jwilk on IRC. Previously I had updated
the short description as requested by Ben. Any other changes that are
needed? I would still like to find a sponsor to upload this package.
Thanks!

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Would like a sponsor to upload the new version of python-foolscap

2010-01-28 Thread Elliot Murphy
Hi!

Zooko (the upstream developer) filed #567145 asking for
python-foolscap to be updated to the new 0.5.0 release.

I have committed a new changelog entry for this, test built and
installed a package using svn-buildpackage after running
get-orig-source to obtain a correctly modified tarball, and run
through some examples in IPython that exercise foolscap and all
appeared to work OK. The only other rdepends for foolscap I saw was
Tahoo, and I don't feel like messing about with Tahoe right now -
Zooko is the dev for Tahoe also and he's asked for a newer foolscap in
preparation for the next Tahoe release.

I've added foolscap to the /topic in #debian-python, but I didn't know
where to say about the testing that I've done on this, so I wrote to
this list. Is there anything else that I should do before someone can
sponsor this upload?

Thanks for your advice.
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Re: RFS: python-whisper

2010-01-28 Thread Ben Finney
Elliot Murphy ell...@canonical.com writes:

 Today I have switched python-whisper to use python-support instead of
 python-central
[…]

Be aware that, for an package that was *already* in Debian, you would
need to modify your maintainer scripts to clean up after the mess left
by ‘python-central’ in previous versions of the package. See
URL:http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2009/03/msg00060.html (view
the full thread for a discussion of why it's necessary).

That's not strictly needed for a package that was never in Debian to
date, but it might be a good idea (and at any rate it does no harm) if
your package has ever been installed via other repositories.

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Re: Would like a sponsor to upload the new version of python-foolscap

2010-01-28 Thread Ben Finney
Elliot Murphy ell...@canonical.com writes:

 I've added foolscap to the /topic in #debian-python

That strikes me as a rather obnoxious thing to do. Why change the topic
for the whole channel, rather than just communicating as an individual
asking for assistance?

 but I didn't know where to say about the testing that I've done on
 this, so I wrote to this list. Is there anything else that I should do
 before someone can sponsor this upload?

Write a normal RFS (Request For Sponsor) message for the package, and
send it to ‘debian-mentors’ and ‘debian-python’. Ideally, upload the
package to mentors.debian.net and mark it as requesting a sponsor, which
will cause an automated message to appear in the ‘#debian-mentors’
channel.

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Re: Would like a sponsor to upload the new version of python-foolscap

2010-01-28 Thread Elliot Murphy
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
 That strikes me as a rather obnoxious thing to do. Why change the topic
 for the whole channel, rather than just communicating as an individual
 asking for assistance?

It's rather obnoxious to assume I didn't communicate as an individual
asking for assistance. When I did that, jwilk told me to add the
package to the list of packages in the topic waiting to be reviewed,
as is the standard operating procedure for the DPMT. It's also
described here: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonModulesTeam/TODO

I don't go around changing topics of IRC channels unless I'm certain
that it's appropriate for me to do so.

 Write a normal RFS (Request For Sponsor) message for the package, and
 send it to ‘debian-mentors’ and ‘debian-python’. Ideally, upload the
 package to mentors.debian.net and mark it as requesting a sponsor, which
 will cause an automated message to appear in the ‘#debian-mentors’
 channel.

Thanks, I can do that. This advice conflicts with what jwilk told me
on #debian-python, which was that the DPMT does not make use of
mentors.debian.net so I should not waste the effort. However, if this
makes it easier for a sponsor to upload the package, I'm happy to
upload to mentors as well (just completed, will file the RFS in a
bit).

I appreciate your prompt feedback, both on this and the python-whisper
package. It's always nice to get a quick response while a bit of work
is fresh in your mind, so it's easier to revise.
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Re: Would like a sponsor to upload the new version of python-foolscap

2010-01-28 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
 Elliot Murphy ell...@canonical.com writes:

 I've added foolscap to the /topic in #debian-python

 That strikes me as a rather obnoxious thing to do. Why change the topic
 for the whole channel, rather than just communicating as an individual
 asking for assistance?

02:17:36 -!- Topic for #debian-python: DPMT: pysilc, pyfiglet,
objgraph, python-django-rosetta, pyxdg, python-whisper, foolscap |
PAPT: ibid | RC bugs: http://tiny.pl/hhg32 | binNMUs for Py2.6:
http://tinyurl.com/ybshvqf | http://tinyurl.com/Py26Transition |
Byte-compile files: http://tinyurl.com/yzs8fpv |
http://tinyurl.com/Py24Removal

The topic of the channel seems like a perfectly reasonable place for
this kind of list, too, so I'm not sure why you object to it so
strongly. Are you even in the channel?
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RFS: foolscap (updated package)

2010-01-28 Thread Elliot Murphy
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 0.5.0+dfsg-1
of my package foolscap.

It builds these binary packages:
python-foolscap - object-capability-based RPC system for Twisted Python

The upload would fix these bugs: 567145

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/foolscap
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/foolscap/foolscap_0.5.0+dfsg-1.dsc

I have testbuilt and installed this new version, and checked that
IPython parallel capabilities still work fine (these run over
foolscap).

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards
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Re: Would like a sponsor to upload the new version of python-foolscap

2010-01-28 Thread Ben Finney
Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net writes:

 Are you even in the channel?

Often, yes.

 The topic of the channel seems like a perfectly reasonable place for
 this kind of list, too, so I'm not sure why you object to it so
 strongly.

I would think a separate task tracker would be more appropriate; the
channel topic should remain primarily descriptive of the topic of the
channel, after all.

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Re: Would like a sponsor to upload the new version of python-foolscap

2010-01-28 Thread Ben Finney
Elliot Murphy ell...@canonical.com writes:

 It's rather obnoxious to assume I didn't communicate as an individual
 asking for assistance. When I did that, jwilk told me to add the
 package to the list of packages in the topic waiting to be reviewed,
 as is the standard operating procedure for the DPMT. It's also
 described here: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonModulesTeam/TODO

Thanks for the clarification.

It didn't occur to me that the DPMT would operate that way; it still
strikes me as obnoxious, taking over the channel topic for a particular
team's task list. But I don't own the channel either, so I leave it to
others to decide if they care enough.

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Re: Would like a sponsor to upload the new version of python-foolscap

2010-01-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote:

 I would think a separate task tracker would be more appropriate; the
 channel topic should remain primarily descriptive of the topic of the
 channel, after all.

I'd strongly suggest the use of PET (package entropy tracker) written
by the Perl team:

http://pet.alioth.debian.org/

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Re: RFS: python-whisper

2010-01-28 Thread Elliot Murphy
Thanks for that pointer. I have a couple packages that I need to convert
which were already published in other archives, so this is very handy.
(Sorry for top-posting, android does not allow me any other option).

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On Jan 28, 2010 6:48 PM, Ben Finney
ben+deb...@benfinney.id.auben%2bdeb...@benfinney.id.au
wrote:

Elliot Murphy ell...@canonical.com writes:  Today I have switched
python-whisper to use python-s...
[…]

Be aware that, for an package that was *already* in Debian, you would
need to modify your maintainer scripts to clean up after the mess left
by ‘python-central’ in previous versions of the package. See
URL:http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2009/03/msg00060.html (view
the full thread for a discussion of why it's necessary).

That's not strictly needed for a package that was never in Debian to
date, but it might be a good idea (and at any rate it does no harm) if
your package has ever been installed via other repositories.

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Re: RFS: python-whisper

2010-01-28 Thread Ben Finney
Elliot Murphy ell...@canonical.com writes:

 (Sorry for top-posting, android does not allow me any other option).

I wonder why people who use Android keep on doing this an apologising
for it, instead of the far superior options:

* don't use Android, and/or
* agitate for this Android bug to be fixed.

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Re: RFS: python-whisper

2010-01-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
 Elliot Murphy ell...@canonical.com writes:

 (Sorry for top-posting, android does not allow me any other option).

 I wonder why people who use Android keep on doing this an apologising
 for it, instead of the far superior options:

 * don't use Android, and/or
 * agitate for this Android bug to be fixed.

Or don't let yourself be trapped by U/I conventions.  If you edit the
section of the message that holds the content you are replying to and put
your reply in that box (below what you are quoting), it works fine.

Scott K


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