Re: Using git-svn and gbp for DPMT - Was: Re: Joining the DPMT and git.debian.org access

2014-01-22 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 22.01.2014 08:28, schrieb Thomas Goirand:
> On 01/22/2014 12:24 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> Do you really think that it's unfeasible for git proponents on this team to
>> find the necessary resources to plan an orderly en mass transition?  It might
>> indeed be so, we're all busy.  But let's hopefully all agree that the end 
>> goal
>> is to have all team-maintained packages in the same vcs.
> 
> I can't answer this question, as I can't speak for the others, and I
> don't have time myself.

sure, so you are proposing something which you don't want to finish, just
pursuing a rather selfish interest of using git yourself.  You did try this with
the debian-java team as well.

> Well, if we decide to move slowly things to Git, then the packages that
> will stay in the SVN repo will be those largely unmaintained...

and these will be magically maintained when converted to Git?  please don't be
silly.  unmaintained packages are not a property of the used VCS. And you said
you don't have time to spend on these yourself.

> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=openstack-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
> 
> The only reason they are maintained within the OpenStack team is because
> I don't want to be forced to use SVN, and I think it's safer than in
> collab-maint where so many people have commit access (which means they
> can rm -rf...).

apparently these were first needed for openstack. so it seems to make sense to
maintain these over there.

  Matthias


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Re: Using git-svn and gbp for DPMT - Was: Re: Joining the DPMT and git.debian.org access

2014-01-22 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/22/2014 07:39 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Am 22.01.2014 08:28, schrieb Thomas Goirand:
>> On 01/22/2014 12:24 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>>> Do you really think that it's unfeasible for git proponents on this team to
>>> find the necessary resources to plan an orderly en mass transition?  It 
>>> might
>>> indeed be so, we're all busy.  But let's hopefully all agree that the end 
>>> goal
>>> is to have all team-maintained packages in the same vcs.
>>
>> I can't answer this question, as I can't speak for the others, and I
>> don't have time myself.
> 
> sure, so you are proposing something which you don't want to finish, just
> pursuing a rather selfish interest of using git yourself.  You did try this 
> with
> the debian-java team as well.

I don't think so. I don't maintain any Java package.

>> Well, if we decide to move slowly things to Git, then the packages that
>> will stay in the SVN repo will be those largely unmaintained...
> 
> and these will be magically maintained when converted to Git?

I guess, not more than with SVN...

> please don't be silly.

I don't think I have. You are making wrong assumptions here, I believe.

> unmaintained packages are not a property of the used VCS.

Agreed!!!

> And you said
> you don't have time to spend on these yourself.
> 
>> http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=openstack-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
>>
>> The only reason they are maintained within the OpenStack team is because
>> I don't want to be forced to use SVN, and I think it's safer than in
>> collab-maint where so many people have commit access (which means they
>> can rm -rf...).
> 
> apparently these were first needed for openstack. so it seems to make sense to
> maintain these over there.

That's truth only for a subset of them, not all of them. Many are of
general purpose.

Thomas


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