Re: Request to join Python Modules Team
Hi, út 14. 7. 2020 v 23:18 odesílatel Geert Stappers napsal: > And please enlighten me (and us (through the mailinglist)) > what is holding back > https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2020/07/msg00057.html huh, this is a bit rude. This is volunteering project and you are trying to give me (us) some deadlines or what? -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
Re: request to join the team
Hi Sudip, ne 12. 7. 2020 v 0:31 odesílatel Sudip Mukherjee napsal: > Hi, > > I am maintaining a python package and have few in NEW also intend to > package #962239. I think its best to maintain them as part of the > team. > My salsa id is 'sudip'. > I have read the policies at > > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/blob/master/policy.rst > and > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-apps/-/blob/master/policy.rst > and I accept them. > welcome to both teams. -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
Re: Request to join python-team on salsa
Hi Shayan, po 13. 7. 2020 v 15:41 odesílatel Shayan Doust napsal: > ... I would like to join the team > welcome to the team. -- Best regards Ondřej Nový
Re: request to join the team
Hi Ondřej, On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 11:04 AM Ondrej Novy wrote: > > Hi Sudip, > > ne 12. 7. 2020 v 0:31 odesílatel Sudip Mukherjee > napsal: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am maintaining a python package and have few in NEW also intend to >> package #962239. I think its best to maintain them as part of the >> team. >> My salsa id is 'sudip'. >> I have read the policies at >> https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/blob/master/policy.rst >> and >> https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-apps/-/blob/master/policy.rst >> and I accept them. > > > welcome to both teams. Thanks. :) -- Regards Sudip
Re: Request to join Python Modules Team
Geert, it's more easy and polite ping to admins and ask for the status of the request. IMHO it's not so funny to ask "Who is waiting on who?" Why do we have to wait 75 hours?
Re: Request to join Python Modules Team
Hello, On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:02:07PM +0200, Ondrej Novy wrote: > Hi, > > út 14. 7. 2020 v 23:18 odesílatel Geert Stappers > napsal: > > > And please enlighten me (and us (through the mailinglist)) > > what is holding back > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2020/07/msg00057.html > > > huh, this is a bit rude. This is volunteering project and you are trying to > give me (us) some deadlines or what? Acknowledge on how my request is recieved. Rewording in the make. Yes, this is a volunteering project. (said the volunteer) Imaging you are the person that wants to join this cool project. You made some effort to apply for membership and sent in the request. Then you wait humblely. Humble as you are, you wait another day. On third day you start wondering "Is asking again expressing that you care or is it pushing the people you want to join?" Thing I'm aiming for is a guideline for when to retransmit a join request. I admit that I yesterday did misread https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2020/07/maillist.html that https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2020/07/msg00057.html wasn't unanswered for a long time. As person who wants to help with enabling fellow volunteers, I would like to know more about the proces of an application such as https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2020/07/msg00057.html (It was not wise from me to use negative words as "holding back") It is good see that Sudip Mukherjee is now team member. ( https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2020/07/msg00072.html ) Groeten Geert Stappers -- Silence is hard to parse
Re: Request to join Python Modules Team
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 05:32:58PM -0300, Emmanuel Arias wrote: > Geert, > > it's more easy and polite ping to admins and ask for the status of > the request. > > IMHO it's not so funny to ask "Who is waiting on who?" > > Why do we have to wait 75 hours? 75 = 3 days (of 24 hours) plus 3 hours But actual a value for getting the discussion started. Other proposals welcome. In case > Why do we have to wait 75 hours? is > Why do we have to wait? One volunteer should not let another volunteer waiting. One volunteer should allow another volunteer time to respond. In case > Why do we have to wait 75 hours? is > Do you know that I'm waiting? Ay, that is indeed what not should happen. Please retransmit the request. Groeten Geert Stappers -- Silence is hard to parse
Re: Request to join Python Modules Team
> Imaging you are the person that wants to join this cool project. > You made some effort to apply for membership and sent in the request. > Then you wait humblely. Humble as you are, you wait another day. > On third day you start wondering "Is asking again expressing > that you care or is it pushing the people you want to join?" I did not see a single MR from all the people that requested to join the team in recent times (and i'm subscribed to MR notifications for both DPMT and PAPT), and i do know that you cannot submit an MR for new packages. Almost all those introductory mails mentioned "I want to maintain this new package *AND* [emphasis added] help with general maintenance" but those maintenance contributions never really came (neither before or after membership was granted, at least not at the level a person that cares so much would lead to expect). If they really want to contribute they can always submit MRs or patches to the bts, and/or prepare a NEW package in a temporary location if access is still not granted; but that didnt really happen. We dont really have a good process to accept new contributions (it mostly boils down to single individuals to review, merge, upload), but we also dont really that many to begin with. Geert, I personally find your approach towards the current members/admins pushy, so speaking exclusively for myself l I would suggest you to be mindful that, while I may believe you're trying to be helpful, you may come across differently than how you intended. Regards, -- Sandro "morph" Tosi My website: http://sandrotosi.me/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi Twitter: https://twitter.com/sandrotosi
