Re: The python command in Debian
I am appending the following two sections to the python policy chapter 2,
documenting what currently is in testing. There are different opinions, no
perfect solutions, and if we disagree, we should delegate the final decision
whether to include or to not include the binary packages
python{,-dev}-is-python3 built from the what-is-python source to the CTTE.
Matthias
+Removal of the unversioned packages
+---
+
+Starting with the Debian 11 release (bullseye), the binary packages
+``python``, ``python-minimal``, ``python-dev``, ``python-dbg`` and
+``python-doc`` are removed. No package in the archive must use any of
+these packages as build dependencies, dependencies, recommendations or
+suggestions.
+
+
+Unversioned python commands
+---
+
+For the Debian 11 release (bullseye), the :file:`/usr/bin/python`
+command is provided in the ``python-is-python2`` package (pointing to
+:file:`/usr/bin/python2`). The :file:`/usr/bin/python-config` and
+:file:`/usr/bin/pydoc` commands are provided in the
+``python-dev-is-python2`` package. These package are not installed by
+default for new installations, but only for upgrades from the Debian
+10 release (buster). These packages should be removed after an
+upgrade. These packages will not be part of the Debian 12 release
+(bookworm).
+
+The packages ``python-is-python3`` and ``python-dev-is-python3``
+provide the :file:`/usr/bin/python`, :file:`/usr/bin/python-config`
+and :file:`/usr/bin/pydoc` commands pointing to Python3. These
+packages can be installed by developers and users to use the
+unversioned commands. NOTE: Locally installed software not yet ported
+to Python3 is likely to break when installing these packages.
+
+The packages ``python-is-python3``, ``python-dev-is-python3``,
+``python-is-python2`` and ``python-dev-is-python2`` must not be used
+as build dependencies, dependencies, recommendations or suggestions.
Joining DPT
Dear Python team I'd like to join the team to work on TUF package: * Package name: python-tuf Upstream Author : tuf developers * URL : https://github.com/theupdateframework/tuf * License : Apache-2.0 It has been requested by upstream year ago, but never landed * https://bugs.debian.org/931178# RFS (2019) * https://bugs.debian.org/934151# ITP (2019) So I suggested upstream about cooperative maintenance through DPT, and was then encouraged to help: * https://github.com/theupdateframework/tuf/issues/263#issuecomment-781029348 I am motivated to do the initial work because I know the procedures as one debian maintainers: * https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=r...@users.sf.net Also as requested I acknowlege team policy: https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/blob/master/policy.rst I planned to use GBP anyway along salsa, BTW here is my id: https://salsa.debian.org/rzr Meanwhile I will update activities regarding this packaging effort on upstream tracker and crosslink to DBTS. https://github.com/theupdateframework/tuf/issues/263 If needed feel free to ping me rzr in IRC Regards -- http://rzr.online.fr/# gpg:0x467094BC mailto:r...@users.sf.net
Bug#983870: ITP: webdriver-manager - Webdriver Manager for Python
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: webdriver-manager Upstream Author : Sergey Pirogov * URL : https://pypi.org/project/webdriver-manager/ * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description : Webdriver Manager for Python Binary package names: python3-webdriver-manager The Webdriver Manager for Python simplifies management of binary drivers for different browsers. It supports ChromeDriver, GeckoDriver, IEDriver, OperaDriver and EdgeChromiumDriver. It is used by calling "from selenium import webdriver" from your Python code. I'm planning to work on the webdriver-manager packaging using python-team's git at Salsa, at https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/webdriver-manager . Bye, Joost -- Joost van Baal-Ilić http://abramowitz.uvt.nl/ Tilburg University mailto:joostvb.uvt.nl The Netherlands signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Need a Python 3.8 virtual environment
Hi, I'm trying to use a (non-Debian) python system built on python 3.8. Debian's default is currently 3.9 so I am advised to use a virtual environment. Being a newbie, I searched around and found a writeup covering several different virtualization tools [1]. Note I am using Debian 'sid'. I can use the tool "virtualenv" to create a virtual environment for default python: steve@riemann:/tmp$ virtualenv blah created virtual environment CPython3.9.1.final.0-64 in 77ms creator CPython3Posix(dest=/tmp/blah, clear=False, no_vcs_ignore=False, global=False) seeder FromAppData(download=False, pip=bundle, setuptools=bundle, wheel=bundle, via=copy, app_data_dir=/home/steve/.local/share/virtualenv) added seed packages: pip==20.1.1, pkg_resources==0.0.0, setuptools==44.0.0, wheel==0.34.2 activators BashActivator,CShellActivator,FishActivator,PowerShellActivator,PythonActivator,XonshActivator But not for python 3.8: steve@riemann:/tmp$ virtualenv -p python3.8 blah38 RuntimeError: failed to find interpreter for Builtin discover of python_spec='python3.8' I have installed literally all the Debian python packages whose name contains 'python3.8'. A very short list: ii libpython3.8:amd643.8.7-1 amd64Shared Python runtime library (version 3.8) ii libpython3.8-dev:amd643.8.7-1 amd64Header files and a static library for Python (v3.8) ii libpython3.8-minimal:amd643.8.7-1 amd64Minimal subset of the Python language (version 3.8) ii libpython3.8-stdlib:amd64 3.8.7-1 amd64Interactive high-level object-oriented language (standard library, version 3.8) ii python3.8 3.8.7-1 amd64Interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 3.8) ii python3.8-dev 3.8.7-1 amd64Header files and a static library for Python (v3.8) ii python3.8-minimal I have also tried the module 'venv': steve@riemann:/tmp$ python3.8 -m venv v38 The virtual environment was not created successfully because ensurepip is not available. On Debian/Ubuntu systems, you need to install the python3-venv package using the following command. apt-get install python3-venv You may need to use sudo with that command. After installing the python3-venv package, recreate your virtual environment. Failing command: ['/tmp/v38/bin/python3.8', '-Im', 'ensurepip', '--upgrade', '--default-pip'] steve@riemann:/tmp$ python3.8 -m venv blah38 The virtual environment was not created successfully because ensurepip is not available. On Debian/Ubuntu systems, you need to install the python3-venv package using the following command. apt-get install python3-venv You may need to use sudo with that command. After installing the python3-venv package, recreate your virtual environment. Failing command: ['/tmp/blah38/bin/python3.8', '-Im', 'ensurepip', '-- upgrade', '--default-pip'] Note that I do have 'python3-venv' installed, but it is the 3.9 version: ii python3-venv 3.9.1-1 amd64pyvenv-3 binary for python3 (default python3 version) Is there something I've missed? Thank you, -Steve [1] https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-set-up-a-python-virtual-environment-on-debian-10-buster signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Need a Python 3.8 virtual environment
On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 21:17:36 -0600 Steven Robbins wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to use a (non-Debian) python system built on python 3.8. Debian's > default is currently 3.9 so I am advised to use a virtual environment. > Being > a newbie, I searched around and found a writeup covering several different > virtualization tools [1]. Note I am using Debian 'sid'. [...] > Is there something I've missed? Hi Steven, I don't think there is any simple solution for you within the debian ecosystem. As a developper, I faced the same issue and ended in installing `conda` to have a quick access to the various python versions (then I create some venv from the conda environments). I doubt our use-case is common enough to justify having multiple python (again) in Debian. Cheers, Jerome PS: venv are about 10x smaller than conda environments !
Re: Need a Python 3.8 virtual environment
It looks like the only sane way to use non-default Python versions is to build them locally using pyenv. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Need a Python 3.8 virtual environment
Hi Steven, i tested in a freshly installed virtualbox machine and was able to create a virtual environment, using the following steps: built python3.8.7 form tarball (|https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.8.7/Python-3.8.7.tar.xz)| ran python3.8 -m venv test387 and then could activate it. I hope this helps, Balazs On 03/03/2021 03:17, Steven Robbins wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use a (non-Debian) python system built on python 3.8. Debian's default is currently 3.9 so I am advised to use a virtual environment. Being a newbie, I searched around and found a writeup covering several different virtualization tools [1]. Note I am using Debian 'sid'. I can use the tool "virtualenv" to create a virtual environment for default python: steve@riemann:/tmp$ virtualenv blah created virtual environment CPython3.9.1.final.0-64 in 77ms creator CPython3Posix(dest=/tmp/blah, clear=False, no_vcs_ignore=False, global=False) seeder FromAppData(download=False, pip=bundle, setuptools=bundle, wheel=bundle, via=copy, app_data_dir=/home/steve/.local/share/virtualenv) added seed packages: pip==20.1.1, pkg_resources==0.0.0, setuptools==44.0.0, wheel==0.34.2 activators BashActivator,CShellActivator,FishActivator,PowerShellActivator,PythonActivator,XonshActivator But not for python 3.8: steve@riemann:/tmp$ virtualenv -p python3.8 blah38 RuntimeError: failed to find interpreter for Builtin discover of python_spec='python3.8' I have installed literally all the Debian python packages whose name contains 'python3.8'. A very short list: ii libpython3.8:amd643.8.7-1 amd64Shared Python runtime library (version 3.8) ii libpython3.8-dev:amd643.8.7-1 amd64Header files and a static library for Python (v3.8) ii libpython3.8-minimal:amd643.8.7-1 amd64Minimal subset of the Python language (version 3.8) ii libpython3.8-stdlib:amd64 3.8.7-1 amd64Interactive high-level object-oriented language (standard library, version 3.8) ii python3.8 3.8.7-1 amd64Interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 3.8) ii python3.8-dev 3.8.7-1 amd64Header files and a static library for Python (v3.8) ii python3.8-minimal I have also tried the module 'venv': steve@riemann:/tmp$ python3.8 -m venv v38 The virtual environment was not created successfully because ensurepip is not available. On Debian/Ubuntu systems, you need to install the python3-venv package using the following command. apt-get install python3-venv You may need to use sudo with that command. After installing the python3-venv package, recreate your virtual environment. Failing command: ['/tmp/v38/bin/python3.8', '-Im', 'ensurepip', '--upgrade', '--default-pip'] steve@riemann:/tmp$ python3.8 -m venv blah38 The virtual environment was not created successfully because ensurepip is not available. On Debian/Ubuntu systems, you need to install the python3-venv package using the following command. apt-get install python3-venv You may need to use sudo with that command. After installing the python3-venv package, recreate your virtual environment. Failing command: ['/tmp/blah38/bin/python3.8', '-Im', 'ensurepip', '-- upgrade', '--default-pip'] Note that I do have 'python3-venv' installed, but it is the 3.9 version: ii python3-venv 3.9.1-1 amd64pyvenv-3 binary for python3 (default python3 version) Is there something I've missed? Thank you, -Steve [1] https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-set-up-a-python-virtual-environment-on-debian-10-buster
