python2.4

2006-07-31 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal

Hi,

Somebody had to ask again, so this time I'll do it. What's holding up
python2.4 as the default python even in unstable? 

Ganesan

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Re: python 2.4?

2006-05-18 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That much is obvious. The point is wouldn't it be confusing to the user to
 call the package python-ctypes when it doesn't support the current python
 version? Oh well, I guess I can put in something in the description to
 explain this.

 A package named python-ctypes must support the current python version: it
 must ensure this by having a versioned dependency on the versions of python
 that it is compatible with.

 That means that if python-ctypes only supports python ( 2.5), and python
 is at Version: 2.5.0-1, python-ctypes will not be installable (and will need
 to be updated).

This is exactly my point. There will be no python-ctypes supporting python
= 2.5. That's why I am arguing that there needs to policy exceptions to
allow a package named python2.4-ctypes. Josselin seems to think different.

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Re: python 2.4?

2006-05-18 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Le jeudi 18 mai 2006 à 00:11 -0500, Steve Langasek a écrit :
 A package named python-ctypes must support the current python version: it
 must ensure this by having a versioned dependency on the versions of python
 that it is compatible with.
 
 That means that if python-ctypes only supports python ( 2.5), and python
 is at Version: 2.5.0-1, python-ctypes will not be installable (and will need
 to be updated).

 At that moment, python could even start to provide python-ctypes.

Then what would you name the ctypes package supporting python2.4?

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Re: python 2.4?

2006-05-17 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Le mercredi 17 mai 2006 à 14:12 +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal a écrit :
 I understand the upgrade issues that pythonX.Y packages cause with multiple
 versions of python in Debian. However, for binary modules I don't really see
 an alternative in some cases. How about this alternate proposal for binary
 modules
 
 * python-foo must support the current python version. 
 * python-foo can optionally include support for older python versions (I am
 still not convinced on this one).
 * Alternatively, pythonX.Y-foo is allowed to support older versions of 
 python 
 in the archive.

 Over my dead body.

That makes it a bit difficult, where do you live ;-)?

 There's no point in simplifying python packaging if in fact it becomes
 more complicated because we allow exceptions.

Then please suggest how to handle the issues that I raised with the new
policy.

Ganesan

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Re: python 2.4?

2006-05-16 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In short, the main decision has been to drop entirely python2.x-foo
 packages. They will, however, be provided as virtual packages, but only
 if something actually needs them.

 ...

 For C extensions, it was decided to build them for all available python
 versions in a single python-foo package. For example, currently we have
 python2.3 and python2.4. The package would
 contain /usr/lib/python2.[34]/site-packages/foo.so and depend on 
 python (= 2.3), python ( 2.5). The python-all-dev package will be
 used to build this.

Hmm, seems a bit backward to me. What if I don't have python2.3 installed at
all. What's the point in keeping /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/foo.so
around? 

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Please add me to Python Modules Team

2006-04-12 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal

Hi,

I currently maintain clientcookie, fixedpoint and ctypes python packages. I
am not subscribed to debian-python list but I am already subscribed to the
corresponding newsgroup in gmane.

Ganesan

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Re: New python maintenance team

2006-04-07 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think everyone is agreed that we want greater automization of python
 transitions, but the longer this is postponed, the more problematic this
 becomes for etch.  It's my impression that there is enough untapped manpower
 available to work on starting this transition the old, hard way that it's
 not to our advantage to continue postponing it due to the promise of better
 methods -- when those methods will still require sourceful uploads for the
 first round of implementation anyway.

FWIW, seconded. Please just upload python2.4 as the default python
version. We have enough time get the infrastructure in place and attempt the
automated transition for python2.5.

Ganesan

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