Re: future of python-pipeline package

2014-05-04 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno ven, 02/05/2014 alle 15.53 +1000, Brian May ha scritto:
 [...]

 
 Alternatively, django-pipeline could be modified to conflict with
 python-pipeline. This would allow closing the grave bug report, but
 seems wrong.
 

Sorry if this is trivial to all of you... (but it's not mentioned in the
RFA bug or in the breaks bug): the original python-pipeline was
renamed to python-grapevine.
See http://jwilk.net/software/python-grapevine

Pietro



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Re: request for packaging: numba (numpy-aware LLVM-based python compiler)

2014-04-07 Thread Pietro Battiston
For Sylwester and whoever may be interested:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=743877
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=743876

I hope this is useful to someone (apart from me)!

Pietro

Il giorno ven, 15/03/2013 alle 10.49 +0100, Sylwester Arabas ha scritto:
 Dear Debian Python Team,
 
 Could you please add (if not yet there) Numba to the Debian Python 
 packaging TODO. Numba is a NumPy-aware LLVM-based python compiler.
 
 Website: http://numba.pydata.org/
 Repository: https://github.com/numba/numba
 Documentation: http://numba.pydata.org/numba-doc/0.7/
 Most recent stable version: 0.7 / Feb 2013 (0.1 was release in Aug 2012)
 License: BSD
 
 Thanks,
 Sylwester
 
 -- 
 http://www.igf.fuw.edu.pl/~slayoo/
 
 



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Re: search.html doesn't look like a Sphinx search page

2012-02-25 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno sab, 25/02/2012 alle 08.25 +0800, Paul Wise ha scritto:
 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Pietro Battiston wrote:
 
  If there is consensus (and I guess it would be good to find it), I
  wasn't able to detect it...
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2011/05/msg00194.html
 
  Notice I _did_ provide locally some javascript libraries which (the
  upstream downloads remotely, and which) are required for the
  functionality of the documentation.
 
 I would say that Debian Policy 2.2.1 constitutes consensus:
 
 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-main
 
 Please report RC bugs where you find this issue.
 


Maybe I misunderstood you Paul, but

1) I think I followed what the policy states precisely in the fact that
I provided locally javascript libraries which were _required_ for
browsing the documentation. That's not the issue on which I beg for
consensus.

2) Google Analytics is certainly not required (strictly speaking, it
doesn't even enhance the documentation browsing experience), and in
particular it can't be provided locally

3) on the other hand, if Google Analytics, and more in general remotely
downloaded javascript libraries, are considered a dependency, then
web browsers should not be in main. Instead they are (and users are
free to block remote javascripts).



I want to make clear that I do not oppose the view that Google
Analytics should be stripped off from documentation... I'm just saying
that as far as I understand the policy doesn't state that. _Also_
because it doesn't mention the privacy issue (and for instance the .js
which is the subject of bug #637580 _could_ be provided locally, and
that wouldn't entirely solve the bug according to the submitter).

thanks for any clarifications

Pietro


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Re: search.html doesn't look like a Sphinx search page

2012-02-25 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno sab, 25/02/2012 alle 19.12 +, Lars Wirzenius ha scritto:
 On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 08:00:26PM +0100, Pietro Battiston wrote:
  I want to make clear that I do not oppose the view that Google
  Analytics should be stripped off from documentation... I'm just saying
  that as far as I understand the policy doesn't state that. _Also_
  because it doesn't mention the privacy issue (and for instance the .js
  which is the subject of bug #637580 _could_ be provided locally, and
  that wouldn't entirely solve the bug according to the submitter).
 
 It is probably true that the Debian Policy does not mandate that we
 protect the privacy of our users. That should not have to be mandated:
 it is clearly the right thing to do, just like we protect our users'
 security.
 


Ehm... OK, makes sense.

Sorry for the noise.

Pietro


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Re: search.html doesn't look like a Sphinx search page

2012-02-24 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno ven, 24/02/2012 alle 12.24 +0100, Jakub Wilk ha scritto:
 * Paul Wise p...@debian.org, 2012-02-24, 13:29:
 Also, please remove Google Analytics code, and references to other 
 JavaScript code and CSS hosted on external websites. I don't want to 
 be tracked when viewing local documentation. :
 That sounds like an RC bug; things in main depending on stuff not in 
 Debian.
 
 I would certainly consider things like thing RC for my packages, but I'm 
 not sure there's consensus about this among the project.

If there is consensus (and I guess it would be good to find it), I
wasn't able to detect it...
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2011/05/msg00194.html


Notice I _did_ provide locally some javascript libraries which (the
upstream downloads remotely, and which) are required for the
functionality of the documentation.

Pietro


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Re: search.html doesn't look like a Sphinx search page

2012-02-21 Thread Pietro Battiston
Thank you for the reply Jakub.

Il giorno mar, 21/02/2012 alle 17.03 +0100, Jakub Wilk ha scritto:
 * Pietro Battiston m...@pietrobattiston.it, 2012-02-19, 16:55:
 I'm trying to adopt dh_sphinxdoc, but it dies with the following error:
 
 dh_sphinxdoc:
 debian/python-sqlkit-doc/usr/share/doc/python-sqlkit-doc/html/search.html 
 doesn't look like a Sphinx search page
 
 The page is available at
 http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/sqlkit.git;a=blob;f=doc/html/search.html
 
 The page reads:
 creato usando  a href=http://sphinx.pocoo.org/;Sphinx/a 0.6.4.
 
 Well, don't expect dh_sphinxdoc to be able to process stuff that was not 
 build with the current version of Sphinx.


My bad: I referred you to the page in git (and in the original tarball)
as an example, but in fact that's not exactly the page dh_sphinxdoc
complains about: the latter is indeed generated during the creation of
the package, and I uploaded a copy for your convenience at¹
http://pietrobattiston.it/c/search.html

So finally I'd appreciate any pointer on why _this_ is not recognized.

thanks again

Pietro


¹ If you just want to reproduce the problem cleanly:

git clone git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/sqlkit.git
cd sqlkit
git checkout sphinxdoc_temptative
git-buildpackage --git-debian-branch=sphinxdoc_temptative




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search.html doesn't look like a Sphinx search page

2012-02-19 Thread Pietro Battiston
Hello,

I'm trying to adopt dh_sphinxdoc, but it dies with the following error:

dh_sphinxdoc:
debian/python-sqlkit-doc/usr/share/doc/python-sqlkit-doc/html/search.html 
doesn't look like a Sphinx search page

The page is available at
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/sqlkit.git;a=blob;f=doc/html/search.html

It _is_, I guess, heavily customized... but I didn't think this was a
problem. So I'd appreciate any advice: should I
1) submitting a bug for dh_sphinxdoc,
2) patching the page/asking some modifications upstream, or just
3) keep on living without dh_sphinxdoc?

thanks in advance

Pietro



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RFS: gallery-uploader 2.3-1

2010-11-12 Thread Pietro Battiston
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 2.3-1
of my package gallery-uploader.

It builds these binary packages:
gallery-uploader - graphical tool to upload pictures and videos to
Gallery

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 576414

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gallery-uploader
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gallery-uploader/gallery-uploader_2.3-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.



Out of template: Piotr Ożarowski sponsored past uploads of the package,
but he's currently in quasi vacation. If anyone is interested in
sponsoring/reviewing but has no access to a gallery instance to test,
please contact me in private so I can provide him the credentials for a
test account.

Kind regards
 Pietro Battiston



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Re: Ideal directory structure?

2010-01-30 Thread Pietro Battiston
There's no particular message I want to reply to: just wanted to signal
that I find the structure

./appname
./appnamelib/__init__.py
./appnamelib/...
./stuff/appname.svg
./stuff/appname.glade
./stuff/...


the most practical to get appname running in both installed and
uninstalled mode - which I do find very useful for most applications.

Then, in my apps, I put

not_installed_dir = os.path.dirname(os.path.realpath(__file__))
if os.path.exists(not_installed_dir + '/stuff/appname.svg'):
STUFF_DIR = not_installed_dir + '/stuff'
LOCALE_DIR = not_installed_dir + '/locale'
else:
for directory in [sys.prefix, sys.prefix + '/local']:
installed_root_dir = directory + '/share'
if os.path.exists(installed_root_dir +
'/nautilus-scripts-manager/stuff'):
STUFF_DIR = installed_root_dir +
'/nautilus-scripts-manager/stuff'
LOCALE_DIR = installed_root_dir + '/locale'
break


... and then put STUFF_DIR in the path of files I need (and import
normally the modules/packages).

What I ignore is: is there some smarter (than [sys.prefix, sys.prefix +
'/local']) way to check possible _installed_ locations?

Pietro


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Re: Ideal directory structure?

2010-01-30 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno sab, 30/01/2010 alle 21.10 +0530, Umang ha scritto:
 On 30/01/10 20:02, Pietro Battiston wrote:
  What I ignore is: is there some smarter (than [sys.prefix, sys.prefix +
  '/local']) way to check possible _installed_ locations?
 
 You're not _supposed_ to look in sys.prefix + '/local'. (i.e. 
 /usr/local) If you used a pure version of distutils, then everything 
 would fall straight into sys.prefix. However the Debian version has been 
 patched. You can simply install as follows and get everything to work 
 properly:
  $ sudo python setup.py install --install-layout=deb

As far as I know, I'm not supposed to decide or even know how users will
install my application...

Pietro


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Re: Ideal directory structure?

2010-01-30 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno sab, 30/01/2010 alle 09.42 -0500, Guy Hulbert ha scritto:
 On Sat, 2010-30-01 at 15:32 +0100, Pietro Battiston wrote:
  ./appname
  ./appnamelib/__init__.py 
 
 appending lib to everything is really ugly* ...

I don't find ugly to signal that a library is a library...

(regardless if it is used or not by other apps, and where it gets hence
installed)

 is it because
 
 ./appname.py
 ./appname/__init__.py
 
 fails to work ?

Also, yes.


 [*] And the debian perl group pre-pend 'lib' to all the packaged perl
 modules so you'd have libappnamelib-V.deb

I'm not following you here.

Notice that in neither of my mails I proposed a particular schema of
debian packaging (though so far I never found inconsistencies between my
upstream behaviour and possible debian packaging choices).

Pietro


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Re: Ideal directory structure?

2010-01-30 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno sab, 30/01/2010 alle 16.14 +0100, Josselin Mouette ha scritto:
 Le samedi 30 janvier 2010 à 15:32 +0100, Pietro Battiston a écrit : 
  Then, in my apps, I put
  
  not_installed_dir = os.path.dirname(os.path.realpath(__file__))
 
 Every time you use introspection features (like __file__) for something
 else than introspection, you have completely failed somewhere in the
 design process.
 
 __file__ is a plague. If it wasn’t here, people would have, long ago,
 developed correct distribution systems for Python instead of using such
 an unreliable way of determining the filesystem layout.
 

In my ignorance, what I've exposed is the only way I know to get things
working as I want, so I'll be happy to get in touch with better
designs... for me, so far, __file__ may very well have been a hack, but
certainly not a plague.

Pietro


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Re: __file__ is a disease

2010-01-30 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno sab, 30/01/2010 alle 22.56 +0100, Josselin Mouette ha scritto:
 Le samedi 30 janvier 2010 à 21:40 +0100, Pietro Battiston a écrit : 
  In my ignorance, what I've exposed is the only way I know to get things
  working as I want, so I'll be happy to get in touch with better
  designs... for me, so far, __file__ may very well have been a hack, but
  certainly not a plague.
 
 Maybe you don’t understand it is a plague, because you are not trying to
 package the things you write with __file__ for a distribution.

Not only I did try (and apparently succeeded) packaging some things I
wrote for a distribution (called Debian, some of you may have heard
about it), but I developed my style of packaging - which may certainly
have its flaws - explicitly thinking to something that would
- work uninstalled,
- work installed, _and_
- reduce the packaging work to the minimum

 The
 location of module files on the system should be a hidden implementation
 detail. Because of __file__, it is not and this implementation detail
 has to be exposed by packaging tools, restricting what they can do in
 ways you don’t imagine, making it impossible to just abstract them
 behind the “module” concept - which is the only one that should matter
 for a programmer.

I use __file__ exactly in detecting the case in which there is _no_
packaging tool involved.

I perfectly know that this hack - like every hack - has its drawbacks:
if the binary happens to be in the same folder of a folder called
stuff which contains a file called $appname.svg, _then_ it will
erroneously think it's running uninstalled. I consider this a minor
problem, but feel free to point out anything I'm missing.


 
 Python is the only widespread high-level language to do that. I’ve never
 seen a Perl, Java or C# module look for its installation path before
 deciding what to do. In these languages, modules are abstract objects
 and you can do whatever you want with them on the filesystem without
 changing any line of code. Believe me, I love the Python language, but
 the interpreter is plagued with such issues.
 

Actually, this is the only case in which I use __file__, and apparently
you are much more competent than me about Python. So I have no reason to
not believe you, in general.

 
 Going back to the topic, please try using autoconf, waf or even cmake to
 distribute your modules. These tools were designed to abstract things
 like filesystem locations and to generate everything needed at
 installation time. Python-specific tools like setuptools are not able to
 do that, not unless you bundle specific scripts with your packages.
 

I find setuptools much more elegant, I like its ease of maintenance, I
experienced it is easily extendable, I trust that if it has flaws they
will get fixed... but most importantly for our discussion, if I did use
some of those systems that you suggest (and that I frankly thought were
just obsolete stuff still hanging around and nobody would adopt
voluntarily for a Python app today), I think I would still use __file__
to know when I'm running uninstalled.


Pietro


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Re: please upload python2.6 to unstable

2010-01-12 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno mar, 12/01/2010 alle 00.06 -0800, Steve Langasek ha scritto:
 On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:56:08AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 08:39, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote:
   I have no idea what makes you think that even more angry mails on public
   mailing list will solve the problem.
 
  Be quiet won't solve it either, sadly. That's proved by the long
  silent period that provides not advance on the python
  maintainership-side. At least i'm proposing to form a group (and be
  part of that) to take over maintainership.
 
 A group hijack is still a hijack.  I don't know why you try to make this
 sound like some sort of noble enterprise for the good of Debian.
 

I'm certainly not a guru, but I never thought a hijack can't be noble
and in particular for the good of Debian... pointers?

Pietro


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Migration from python-central to python-support

2009-05-29 Thread Pietro Battiston
Hello,
since I have read [0], I'm migrating to python-support for the new
version of my python-shapely package.
But I admit that in the followups of the said mail, I got somehow
confused... the 3 lines that Piotr suggests to add:

| if [ $1 = upgrade ]  dpkg --compare-versions $2 lt 1.2.3-4; then
|   pycentral pkgremove python-foo
| fi

seem to be of at least debated utility... however [1] seems still open...
so in the end is there a final position on this at all?

thanks

Pietro

P.S: it was a while since I didn't read mail from the list, but I
think/hope I have read all what could even vaguely have something to do
with the subject... sorry if I missed anything.

[0]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2009/03/msg00015.html
[1]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=479852


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scipy packaging

2008-07-07 Thread Pietro Battiston
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Hello,
a package I maintain, gvb, has just entered sid, and I noticed that
unfortunately I erroneously set Priority: optional (it is wrong
because it depends on python-scipy which has Priority: extra).

I was already fixing this, but first I was curious on why scipy had
extra. I noticed it Conflicts: with the following packages:

python-scipy-core, python2.3-scipy, python2.3-scipy-core,
python2.4-scipy, python2.4-scipy-core

actually, those seem to me all obsolete or only used in kfreebsd
architecture... in other words, it seems to me better to set
Priority: extra in those and Priority: optional in main
python-scipy package.

Please forgive me if I'm missing something, those are my first steps
as Debian maintainer...

Pietro Battiston
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Re: scipy packaging

2008-07-07 Thread Pietro Battiston
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Ondrej Certik ha scritto:
 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Pietro Battiston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
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 Hello, a package I maintain, gvb, has just entered sid, and I
 noticed that unfortunately I erroneously set Priority: optional
 (it is wrong because it depends on python-scipy which has
 Priority: extra).

 I was already fixing this, but first I was curious on why scipy
 had extra. I noticed it Conflicts: with the following packages:


 python-scipy-core, python2.3-scipy, python2.3-scipy-core,
 python2.4-scipy, python2.4-scipy-core

 actually, those seem to me all obsolete or only used in kfreebsd
 architecture... in other words, it seems to me better to set
 Priority: extra in those and Priority: optional in main
 python-scipy package.

 Please forgive me if I'm missing something, those are my first
 steps as Debian maintainer...

 Thanks for asking these questions. Even though I try to keep
 python-scipy in shape, I don't know the answers. To me personally
 it doesn't really matter, if it's extra, or optional. But if you
 need something fixed in python-scipy and you get a consensus on
 that, I'll fix it, or help you fix it.

 Ondrej

Actually, a further look showed that all the packages in Conflict:
(do not exists in unstable/testing, and...) also have Priority:
extra, so those conflicts are not themselves the reason of the
extra priority... they are maybe a hint (python-scipy has probably
inherited this), but I still don't get the original reason.

Anyway, if it's not so important, I will wait a couple of days for
some more info and then switch my package to extra and stop bothering.

thanks

Pietro


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