Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-06-24 Thread Sebastien Douche
2009/6/24 Fabio Tranchitella kob...@kobold.it:
 Hello,

Hi Fabio :)

 We already have python2.5 and python2.6

and Python 3.0 and...

 we have to provide security support for all the
 packages, and supporting three different versions of python is too much
 work.

Is it possible to keep Python 2.4 with a warning like we don't
provide support on this version ?

BTW, thank you for your work!

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Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-06-24 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello,

* 2009-06-24 11:20, Sebastien Douche wrote:
 Is it possible to keep Python 2.4 with a warning like we don't provide
 support on this version ?

No, it is not possible.

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Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-06-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:21:45AM +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
 * 2009-06-24 11:20, Sebastien Douche wrote:
  Is it possible to keep Python 2.4 with a warning like we don't provide
  support on this version ?
 
 No, it is not possible.

... in Debian stable.  What about experimental?

Also experimental fits this it's known to work with version 2.x status -
so nobody will really relay on it and it leaves an easy door to come back
if Zope 2.12 really works with Python 2.5/2.6.

But maintaining old versions is always work you do not really want to
do and nobody in the Zope team deserves extra unwanted work - thanks for
all the work in the previous years!  So we just have to find somebody
who is actually doing the work and usually before droping a package
comes orphaning a package.  This perfectly selects people who *really*
*really* want to keep the package - they just grab it up and do not
ask others to do the work for them.  So I would propose as an alternative
way which gives interested people a chance to take over:

  Instead of asking for removal orphan the package and use
  experimental as target distribution for the QA maintained
  package.  This is a de factor removal because these packages
  have no chance to enter any testing distribution (because
  of missing dependency Python 2.4 and thus will also stay
  away from stable.  But if there might be a maintainer (team)
  which really grabs up the task to maintain future Zope 2.x
  versions I see no reason to not give them a chance for some
  time.

Kind regards - and as I said, thanks for your work on it

 Andreas.

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Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu

2009-06-24 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello Andreas,

* 2009-06-24 13:29, Andreas Tille wrote:
 ... in Debian stable.  What about experimental?

This is possible, indeed, and I like your idea of orphaning the packages
bug keeping them around.

Thanks for your suggestion!

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