Re: ITP persistent and merging zope and python teams?

2014-06-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 27, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Arnaud Fontaine wrote:

I'm not really active lately but I think it would be a good idea to move
most of packages (the ones listed by Brian in his previous email seems
fine to me) to DPMT.

Note that there appears to be 48 packages maintained by the Zope team:

http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-zope-developers%40lists.alioth.debian.orgcomaint=yes

I'm not so sure about zope2.12 and zope2.13 but it looks like most of the
others could be moved over to DPMT.

BTW, even if this document is not up-to-date, we used to target ZTK
version: https://wiki.debian.org/Zope/ZTK . Shall we keep doing that?

That's a good question.  I've been using the assumption that if it's available
on PyPI, then it must be blessed for general purpose use.  Maybe that's a bad
assumption.  Even the ZTK trunk page is out of date:

http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/releases/overview-trunk.html

since at least I know that most of the latest versions on PyPI now support
Python 3.4.  Are either the Debian wiki or the docs.zope.org pages still
relevant?

We still haven't heard from Gediminas yet, so I think we should wait a little
longer.  Should we ask for opinions on debian-devel or just let them know
once/if the deed is done?

-Barry


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Re: ITP persistent and merging zope and python teams?

2014-06-26 Thread Arnaud Fontaine
Hi,

Barry Warsaw ba...@debian.org writes:

 As a side question, I wonder if it still makes sense to continue to segregate
 the ZTK packages under pkg-zope-developers.  Why not fold all/most/some of
 those packages into DPMT?  They're both under svn so it should be pretty easy
 to do, and the DPMT seems to be the much more active team than p-z-d.
 Thoughts?

I'm not really active lately but I think it would be a good idea to move
most of packages (the ones listed by Brian in his previous email seems
fine to me) to DPMT.

BTW, even if this document is not up-to-date, we used to target ZTK
version: https://wiki.debian.org/Zope/ZTK . Shall we keep doing that?

Cheers,
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ITP persistent and merging zope and python teams?

2014-06-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
AFAICT, the persistent library is not yet packaged for Debian.

https://pypi.python.org/pypi/persistent/4.0.8

I've search for existing packages and wnpp/ITP and not found anything.  I
think this is also required as a build dependency for zope.component.  It's
possible I've missed it though, so I'm going to file an ITP and work on the
packaging, but please do let me know if it's already available.

I'm aware of python-zope.component-persistentregistry, but that's a
metapackage and not specifically related to the above.

I plan on naming the source package `python-persistent` since claiming
`persistent` seems a bit presumptuous.  I'm going to put it under DPMT.

As a side question, I wonder if it still makes sense to continue to segregate
the ZTK packages under pkg-zope-developers.  Why not fold all/most/some of
those packages into DPMT?  They're both under svn so it should be pretty easy
to do, and the DPMT seems to be the much more active team than p-z-d.
Thoughts?

Cheers,
-Barry


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Re: ITP persistent and merging zope and python teams?

2014-06-25 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:50:58AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
 AFAICT, the persistent library is not yet packaged for Debian.
 
 https://pypi.python.org/pypi/persistent/4.0.8
 
 I've search for existing packages and wnpp/ITP and not found anything.  I
 think this is also required as a build dependency for zope.component.  It's
 possible I've missed it though, so I'm going to file an ITP and work on the
 packaging, but please do let me know if it's already available.
 
 I'm aware of python-zope.component-persistentregistry, but that's a
 metapackage and not specifically related to the above.
 
 I plan on naming the source package `python-persistent` since claiming
 `persistent` seems a bit presumptuous.  I'm going to put it under DPMT.
 
 As a side question, I wonder if it still makes sense to continue to segregate
 the ZTK packages under pkg-zope-developers.  Why not fold all/most/some of
 those packages into DPMT?  They're both under svn so it should be pretty easy
 to do, and the DPMT seems to be the much more active team than p-z-d.
 Thoughts?

As I mentioned before, I think it's a great idea :)

I think that you should give it some time for any objections to be
raised. If none are, you should go ahead.

Perhaps seek out Gediminas' opinion. As he is the next most active
member of pkg-zope-developers and would probably have to join DPMT to
carry on with the ZRK package maintenance.

 
 Cheers,
 -Barry
 
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