Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-04-30 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 30 April 2014 16:31, Luca Falavigna  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> python-central is gone (\o/) and python-support usage is slowly
> decreasing in the archive:
> http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dh_pysupport-is-obsolete.html
>
> Do you think it would be the right time to prepare a mass bug filing
> asking to convert to dh_python{2,3}?

Given it's like less than 200 packages left, let's do it now. This is
smaller than e.g. a boost transition.

Are python-apps/modules all converted now? Might be easy to just do
mass-commit & upload of those first.

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Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 30, 2014 11:31:55 AM EDT, Luca Falavigna  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>python-central is gone (\o/) and python-support usage is slowly
>decreasing in the archive:
>http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dh_pysupport-is-obsolete.html
>
>Do you think it would be the right time to prepare a mass bug filing
>asking to convert to dh_python{2,3}?

Is there a lintian test that complains about this? I think it'd be better to 
start with that. 

Scott K



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Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-04-30 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 30.04.2014 17:31, schrieb Luca Falavigna:
> Hi,
> 
> python-central is gone (\o/) and python-support usage is slowly
> decreasing in the archive:
> http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dh_pysupport-is-obsolete.html
> 
> Do you think it would be the right time to prepare a mass bug filing
> asking to convert to dh_python{2,3}?

that would be good. However before we start this, I'd like to make sure that we
get rid of /usr/share/pyshared as well.  With PEP 404 [1] reconfirmed this year
at PyCon we can safely remove the symlink farm.

  Matthias

http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/


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Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-04-30 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 30 April 2014 18:01, Matthias Klose  wrote:
> Am 30.04.2014 17:31, schrieb Luca Falavigna:
>> Hi,
>>
>> python-central is gone (\o/) and python-support usage is slowly
>> decreasing in the archive:
>> http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dh_pysupport-is-obsolete.html
>>
>> Do you think it would be the right time to prepare a mass bug filing
>> asking to convert to dh_python{2,3}?
>
> that would be good. However before we start this, I'd like to make sure that 
> we
> get rid of /usr/share/pyshared as well.  With PEP 404 [1] reconfirmed this 
> year
> at PyCon we can safely remove the symlink farm.
>

If PEP 404 is ever update to actually release, then it would be
reasonable to expect/demand for PEP 3147 to be implemented / included.

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Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-04-30 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Dimitri John Ledkov , 2014-04-30, 16:43:
python-central is gone (\o/) and python-support usage is slowly 
decreasing in the archive:

http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dh_pysupport-is-obsolete.html

Do you think it would be the right time to prepare a mass bug filing 
asking to convert to dh_python{2,3}?


Given it's like less than 200 packages left, let's do it now. This is 
smaller than e.g. a boost transition.


This tag doesn't catch indirect use of python-support, via dh or cdbs. 
The actual number of affect packages is much higher.


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Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-04-30 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 30 April 2014 18:27, Jakub Wilk  wrote:
> * Dimitri John Ledkov , 2014-04-30, 16:43:
>
>>> python-central is gone (\o/) and python-support usage is slowly
>>> decreasing in the archive:
>>> http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dh_pysupport-is-obsolete.html
>>>
>>> Do you think it would be the right time to prepare a mass bug filing
>>> asking to convert to dh_python{2,3}?
>>
>>
>> Given it's like less than 200 packages left, let's do it now. This is
>> smaller than e.g. a boost transition.
>
>
> This tag doesn't catch indirect use of python-support, via dh or cdbs. The
> actual number of affect packages is much higher.
>

Quite. On ubuntu, there are at least 537 packages build-depending on
python-support which suggests indeed that above lintian tag is by far
not catching everything.

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Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-05-01 Thread Luca Falavigna
2014-04-30 19:27 GMT+02:00 Jakub Wilk :
> This tag doesn't catch indirect use of python-support, via dh or cdbs. The
> actual number of affect packages is much higher.

Indeed, I erroneously thought it considered build dependencies as well.
I'll propose a new check to take into account B-Ds, so we can improve
on that side too.

Cheers,
Luca


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Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-05-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 30, 2014 1:15:42 PM EDT, Dimitri John Ledkov  wrote:
>On 30 April 2014 18:01, Matthias Klose  wrote:
>> Am 30.04.2014 17:31, schrieb Luca Falavigna:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> python-central is gone (\o/) and python-support usage is slowly
>>> decreasing in the archive:
>>> http://lintian.debian.org/tags/dh_pysupport-is-obsolete.html
>>>
>>> Do you think it would be the right time to prepare a mass bug filing
>>> asking to convert to dh_python{2,3}?
>>
>> that would be good. However before we start this, I'd like to make
>sure that we
>> get rid of /usr/share/pyshared as well.  With PEP 404 [1] reconfirmed
>this year
>> at PyCon we can safely remove the symlink farm.
>>
>
>If PEP 404 is ever update to actually release, then it would be
>reasonable to expect/demand for PEP 3147 to be implemented / included.

Why?

Scott K


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Re: Getting rid of python-support?

2014-05-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 01, 2014, at 07:15 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:

>>If PEP 404 is ever update to actually release, then it would be
>>reasonable to expect/demand for PEP 3147 to be implemented / included.

Don't worry, it won't (PEP 404 that is).

-Barry


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